Welcome Guest [Log In] [Register]
Follow TVOvols on Twitter
Welcome to TheVolunteerOnline. The Volunteer Online is a place where UT fans cross paths to discuss sports and life's other matters. We hope you enjoy your visit.


You're currently viewing our forum as a guest. This means you are limited to certain areas of the board and there are some features you can't use. If you join our community, you'll be able to access member-only sections, and use many member-only features such as customizing your profile, sending personal messages, and voting in polls. Registration is simple, fast, and completely free.

Fill out the registration as instructed. Go to your email, where a message will be sent to you. Click on that link to activate your membership and posting options.


Join our community!


If you're already a member please log in to your account to access all of our features:

Username:   Password:
Add Reply
Riley Ferguson Had Fractured Tibia
Topic Started: Nov 25 2013, 01:11 PM (489 Views)
Sapientvol
Apprentice
[ * ]
TennesseeTuxedo
Nov 25 2013, 01:11 PM
This is why Dobbs is seeing the action and not Ferguson.
Quote:
 
Phil Kaplan ‏@philkaplan 7m
Butch Jones said freshman quarterback Riley Ferguson had fracture in tibula.
A fractured Fibia?

Isn't that the lie bone?

Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
AtlantaVol


TennesseeTuxedo
Nov 25 2013, 05:55 PM
WOW BJ, you really tried to read between some lines in this thread.
Tux is correct- Dobbs should be playing much better than he is and that is on Coaching. They had 2 weeks to get ready for Candy and played poorly and without motivation. Dobbs is a Jones recruit- not a Drool's recruit.

And since 2000 we have seen Clausen, Ainge, and Bray all play a LOT better as True FR QB's than Dobbs. None of these were Top 200 players. Ainge and Bray were barely recruited by big time teams. Dobbs is a bright guy so what is the difference?
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
BJVOL III
Awesome
[ * ]
Could it be the wide receivers? Could it be he is not that good?
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
*OrangeRev
Member Avatar
Tree hug'n, bleed'n heart, lazy luv'n, global warm'n token liberal

BJVOL III
Nov 29 2013, 11:26 AM
Could it be the wide receivers? Could it be he is not that good?
We all know that receivers are crucial to successful passing ... and we all know that one pass hit a receiver in the face.

But that was one pass.

The rest of them were wild, one-hopped to the receiver, or thrown to Vandy players ... and, our OC did NOTHING to try to build confidence in Dobbs other than have him pass laterally.
Edited by OrangeRev, Nov 29 2013, 11:47 AM.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
LonzoVol


A snippet from Hubbs today that I find very telling:

Suffice to say, Tennessee will enter spring practice with a full-blown battle at quarterback --- and no one player has an advantage. But look for Riley Ferguson to be healthy and a major factor. Plenty of people within and close to the program see Ferguson as the guy with by far the most upside of any quarterback on campus
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
el diablo
Awesome
[ * ]
The epic fail or the 3rd and 1 was lining a Fr QB, with experience only in the spread, in the I formation to run a power play which we haven't been able to run since Kiffin left. You have an inexperienced QB in an unfamiliar offense trying to get a 3rd and 1 against a 9 man front. The COACHES should have called a TO, not the FR QB audible to a pass play. THAT was the monumental screw up of the game.

I thought, earlier in the year, we would go to a 4 WR set b/c we were getting no blocking from our TE and it would enable our QBs to see the field and give our RBs room to run. To go to a power set with a WO FB and a non-blocking TE is just beyond any rational thought process I can come up with.

I still believe, in any set, Dobbs could have snuck the ball for 1 yd in 2 downs. If you want to be safe, put us in a 4 WR set and let Dobbs take a couple of shots at a sneak. We are so much better running out of a 4 WR set than out of any power set imaginable, imo.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
el diablo
Awesome
[ * ]
AtlantaVol
Nov 29 2013, 11:20 AM
TennesseeTuxedo
Nov 25 2013, 05:55 PM
WOW BJ, you really tried to read between some lines in this thread.
Tux is correct- Dobbs should be playing much better than he is and that is on Coaching. They had 2 weeks to get ready for Candy and played poorly and without motivation. Dobbs is a Jones recruit- not a Drool's recruit.

And since 2000 we have seen Clausen, Ainge, and Bray all play a LOT better as True FR QB's than Dobbs. None of these were Top 200 players. Ainge and Bray were barely recruited by big time teams. Dobbs is a bright guy so what is the difference?
The difference was that Clausen, Ainge, and Bray got 1st team reps starting in August and continuing thru the year. Dobbs did not. Wasn't Bray a EE?

I thought we started out the game without motivation, but got motivated after Vandy players started running their mouths. Should we have been motivated at the start of the game? Absolutely. Butch is part responsible for this, but this group of SRs has been unmotivated in November for 4 yrs. We shat the bed last year in Nashville with a much more offensively potent team. Shat the bed in 2011 in Lexington b/c a talented QB didn't want to go to a lower bowl game and a 5 star WR showed his arse on the field.

You have said that we have been going down hill since 1999. You may be right. I will say back to at least 2001. Does Butch deserve some critisism? Yes. Is he getting the job done recruiting that you have always said is the life blood of a program. I would say it sure looks like it. We will see in Feb 2014.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
*TennesseeTuxedo
Member Avatar
Administrator

Bray did not get 1st team reps until November. Remember he came in against South Carolina in the 3rd quarter his freshman season. He throw a pick six right off the bat and then lit up the scoreboard for us.

Dobbs is nowhere near the passers at this stage that Clausen, Ainge, or Bray were, at the 4 game stage of their careers. In fact, the three formers mentioned were better than Dobbs in their first games than Dobbs has been in any game yet.

Dobbs runs the ball effectively, but we can have Pig Howard do that out of the Wildcat. We need a QB who stretch the field with his arm, Running the ball should be secondary and icing on the cake.

The recruitment of Dobbs effectively killed the realistic chances of landing a solid QB in this class. We already had Ferguson in the fold and Butch recruited Dobbs at the last minute. At Cincinnati, he could recruit as many QBs as he could to get one who play well. At this level, you need and expect to get s top notch QB to run your offense, so you go out and get one. We had one and ended up with two new QBs. I am far from being sold on Dobbs being a SEC talent. I do not think that he has the arm and I see his release as a bit strange. The ball comes out his hand at a strange angle.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
*OrangeRev
Member Avatar
Tree hug'n, bleed'n heart, lazy luv'n, global warm'n token liberal

Tux, I had no problem with getting Dobbs last year. He was a highly rated QB in a good league ... just because he hasn't panned out (thus far) doesn't make that a bad recruiting decision. I believe 4 QBs on the team is the right number.

And, yeah, at this point Dobbs has had plenty of first team reps. When he first came in, he was at the low end of other freshman QBs, but the problem is that he's regressed considerably ... I don't know if that is coaching, a freshman slump, he's thinking too much, or defenses are keying in on some bad habits he displays.
Edited by OrangeRev, Nov 30 2013, 12:33 PM.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
*TennesseeTuxedo
Member Avatar
Administrator

My thoughts are that you already have one Elite 11 top rated QB in your recruiting class. Take one QB each year.

When you take two, you shut often yourself out the following year.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
LonzoVol


TennesseeTuxedo
Nov 30 2013, 12:34 PM
My thoughts are that you already have one Elite 11 top rated QB in your recruiting class. Take one QB each year.

When you take two, you shut often yourself out the following year.
Apparently the two in-state schools didn't think Dobbs was an elite prospect. Neither Georgia or Georgia Tech offered him a scholly.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Sapientvol
Apprentice
[ * ]
TennesseeTuxedo
Nov 30 2013, 12:34 PM
My thoughts are that you already have one Elite 11 top rated QB in your recruiting class. Take one QB each year.

When you take two, you shut often yourself out the following year.
If we had not taken a second quarterback last year, we would have been at midseason this year without a healthy scholarship quarterback.

Likely the smartest decision CBJ made in recruiting last year, in retrospect.

Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
*TennesseeTuxedo
Member Avatar
Administrator

Would not have fared worse if we had Pig run the wildcat.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
1 user reading this topic (1 Guest and 0 Anonymous)
« Previous Topic · Neyland Stadium · Next Topic »
Add Reply