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| *Zippy | Jun 14 2013, 10:35 PM Post #1 |
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Burning Man, 2009 FOREVER
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So I'm at work yesterday, and I'm taking a call from a potential new client. Secretary takes her name and that's all she can get, and she' basically rude and just jumps right into the "I want to talk to a LAWYER not some stupid secretary" bit...which is always a great sign in itself....so she just begs me to talk to her. So I take the call, even though that little voice in the back of my head is screaming "voicemail, you idiot! VOICEMAIL! DONT DO IT!!! IT's A TRAP!"...I say hello and ask what she needs. So the first thing out of her mouth is "what race are you?". So I say I'm white. The next thing out of her mouth is "You need to let me talk to a black man, because I dont like white people. I want to talk to a BLACK LAWYER". So I explain that, well...I'm not black and there really isnt anything I can do about that, and I'm the only one in the office at the moment. I realize I have a black last name, but I'm pretty white. Pretty pasty white actually, so I further explain that I'd be happy to help her out but she's got to get over her aversion to white people. So then she starts talking some more and tells me what she wants...which is warning sign number two: she wants to sue a white lawyer for legal malpractice. Obviously at this point, I'm (metaphorically speaking) running like hell to get away from the grievance waiting to happen and end up giving her the number to a black guy I know that may want to charge her a fee (to probably do nothing except, well, take her money and send a letter to find out the lawyer she wants to sue didnt have any coverage anyway, because he's some Bubba running his office off a cell phone in east Bumfuck Alabama). I pretty nicely explained that, well...even if she has a claim I'm just not willing to risk her wraith if she gets a bad result. No guarantees in this business, and if she doesnt get the pound of flesh she wants she's going to be convinced her lawyer got paid off unless he's black. I've had a whole lot of frank discussions with people in my 15 years in the business, so this isnt the first time I've had people just honestly lay out how they feel. But I'm really just about to my limit. It's not so much that a black person hates me without ever even knowing me, hell...I quit caring about that decades ago. Big freaking deal, who cares. But what bugs the shit out of me is the double standard, it's just not right that that type of attitude is more or less acceptable when aimed at white males...and at white males alone. It's not that it's really kosher to do it, I mean most everyone agrees it's wrong...but there isnt enough social pressure against it, such that minorities so frequently have no fear of even trying to conceal these views. I mean hell, at least white guys have learned THAT much in the last 50 years... Anyway, /rant off and back to my point. Should I be pissed about it? I mean on one hand I am, but on the other hand it's kind of a relief to just have it out there in the open...you know? I mean hell at least she let me know where she stood up front I guess. Just having a hard time processing this one. It's really got me rethinking my career, no joke. I just dont know how much longer I can deal with this stuff. |
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| *TennesseeTuxedo | Jun 14 2013, 10:41 PM Post #2 |
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You can't take it and make it personal. Let it go. Our nation is more racially polarized than it ever has been since the 2008 election and it is going to get worse. |
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| *Zippy | Jun 14 2013, 10:47 PM Post #3 |
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No I know that and generally I dont have a problem with it, I'm pretty cynical. That's really the problem, I'm not exactly sure why this one is giving me so much grief. I've really heard...and been called and/or accused of...much, much worse. Many times. So I dont really get why I'm having a hard time letting go of it this time. Regardless of what people may think of me based on my ramblings on the 'net, professionally speaking I'm someone who actually walks the walk in trying to help black people out....you would not believe the amount of free work I do. I dont talk about it online at all because I just dont feel the need to...to be honest, this may be the first time I've actually addressed my real life career at all outside of a private message or private board online...ever. Maybe that's part of it this time, I'm just tired of what feels like a lack of appreciation or something? I dont know. |
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| *TennesseeTuxedo | Jun 14 2013, 10:53 PM Post #4 |
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This lady was a hard core racist. Nobody with a skin color lighter than Shaka Zulu was going to please her. |
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| *Zippy | Jun 14 2013, 10:59 PM Post #5 |
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Yeah, I know...it's just way too common nowdays. I had an epiphany yesterday...we'd probably be way better off as a society, long term, if the government mandated that all future marriages, and all future children, will be exclusively from mixed relationships. Unless we completely breed out all the races this shits just not going to end. Of course, morally speaking it's the worst thing I've ever heard.... |
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| *TennesseeTuxedo | Jun 14 2013, 11:04 PM Post #6 |
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From what i see out there, government does not need to do anything to sour along mixed babies. I see so many white girls having mixed babies. In my day, a white girl did not even speak to a black guy at school or any where else. Of course, it was supposed to be a rite of passage for a white guy to split the might black oak. |
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| Student Radical | Jun 15 2013, 12:37 PM Post #7 |
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It's like as old white guys, we're not allowed to have feelings or preferences. I'm a single man, and there is a ton of women in the 40-60 range out here in Phoenix. God help you if a fat woman flirts with you and you don't respond! |
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| Tnphil | Jun 15 2013, 03:30 PM Post #8 |
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On a similar note....I remember back in the 70's we would pickup some of our AA players for practice because their parent didn't have a vehicle....When we traveled we required our players to dress up. Some didn't have the money to buy slacks and a dress shirt and tie so we would buy em some if they didn't have the money...etc...etc...etc..on and on and on. Back then their parents appreciated us doing it for them and thanked us for all we did to help their sons out...The parents of those 70's kids were a different breed. In the mid 80's to the mid 90's you could see a change in the parents....it was like they EXPECTED us to do these things and very...VERY rarely got a thank you out of the parents. Had a player get a bad break in his arm in a game and he had no parent at the game....We got him to the hospital and I finally got a hold of his mom to tell her what happened and she got pissed because I woke her sorry ass up to tell her about her son. She never showed up at the hospital and I waited until they released him and I took him home about 2:30 in the morning. I could go on and on with stories just like this one but I'd just get pissed all over again. The sad thing is...many of these kids turned out just like their sorry ass parents. Edited by Tnphil, Jun 15 2013, 03:31 PM.
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| LonzoVol | Jun 16 2013, 02:12 PM Post #9 |
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Well, you probably just hit upon the goal of many in this nation, turn it into a country dominated by brown skinned, mixed breeds. I have already told my daughter to be looking at some other countries to spend her life when she gets out of law school. And btw, call me what you want, but it will be a cold day in hell when I let some lunatic black assed bitch ruin my day. |
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| *OrangeRev | Jun 16 2013, 08:26 PM Post #10 |
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Zippy, let me provide you with all the insight you need on this situation. (a) Racism is only majority to minority ... it does not exist minority to majority. Why? Because it has to do with fear and threats and only the majority can do this to a minority. (b) Racism is also a historical phenomena. That is, a racist remark is not racist unless it is informed by a history of racism. To understand this aspect of racism, consider the little 8 year old boy who brings a plastic knife to school so as to spread butter on his toast. Twenty years ago, it was just a plastic knife used to spread butter on his toast, but today it is a weapon that will get him expelled for 2 weeks and sent to reform school - the history of violence in schools has led to zero tolerance. Similarly, the history of white to black racism has led to a zero tolerance. |
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| *Zippy | Jun 17 2013, 10:19 PM Post #11 |
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Racism exists everywhere. What doesnt is discrimination, which is about power. The former is not limited to any race, creed, gender, nationality...etc. But like I said, discrimination is about power moreso than race: it's having the power over another that allows you to treat them disparately based upon the class (race, religion, etc). Historically speaking, white people...men in particular...had an at least effective (if not actual, but for the most part it was actual) monopoly on this power. But that's not really true anymore. If we want to actually stop it... and I mean stop it to where it's not an issue anymore...we've got to keep paying attention to white people's views of other races, but at some point our society has to look at everyone else as well. I spent a good bit of time mulling it over this weekend, ended up getting her referred to a black lawyer I know that's pretty good. Just the best thing for her in the end. Unless she gets the (completely unrealistic) result she is looking for she is going to just be convinced it was due to racism from her lawyer if the guy isnt black....and that's just not good for anyone involved. She needs someone she trusts so she will actually listen to him, and do what he recommends. So in the end I'm just happy she let me know where she stood up front, and I just wish everyone would do that all the time. Just makes life easier. |
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