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| Tweet Topic Started: May 10 2013, 09:07 AM (587 Views) | |
| *TennesseeTuxedo | May 10 2013, 09:07 AM Post #1 |
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BJ and his staff have exceeded anyone's expectations on the recruiting trail thus far. However, this report has opened my eyes and made me realize that our staff is really serious about abruptly turning the program around.This is a night and day different approach from any UT staff in memory. Building a pipeline to UT with instate kids is very important. Mack Brown did this with Texas when he came onboard there. |
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| BJVOL III | May 10 2013, 12:42 PM Post #2 |
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It's hard to believe anyone doubted Jones and his staff when they arrived at UT. He is a proven winner who in a couple of years will have Tenn competitive again. |
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| *TennesseeTuxedo | May 10 2013, 12:46 PM Post #3 |
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BJ, he had never won at a high level and he had never been known as a recruiter. I am very pleased with what he has done on that front, thus far. |
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| BJVOL III | May 10 2013, 03:20 PM Post #4 |
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Neither did Urban Meyer. Jones did ok in the Big East which was a decent level. I am also pleased with the way he is representing the University and putting together a good recruiting class. But will fans be patient enough because his schedule is tough and he doesn't have the players to compete at the elite level. By his third year, we should see a pretty good Tenn team. |
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| *TennesseeTuxedo | May 10 2013, 03:38 PM Post #5 |
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Urban Meyer took his Utah program and went undefeated. |
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| BJVOL III | May 10 2013, 06:09 PM Post #6 |
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He had someone else's recruits. Just like Florida with his first NC. The point is he was unproven with his own players and ability to recruit them. Look how he left Florida. |
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| *TennesseeTuxedo | May 10 2013, 06:20 PM Post #7 |
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BJ, BJ recruited players too and they were not highly ranked either. What he has done in recruiting has caught everyone off guard. Urban Meyer won at Utah with his own recruits and he won at Florida with his won recruits. Edited by TennesseeTuxedo, May 10 2013, 06:20 PM.
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| BJVOL III | May 11 2013, 07:12 AM Post #8 |
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Didn't Meyer win the NC in his second year? If so, he had someone else's recruits. You don't do it with Freshman. If I am wrong, correct me. |
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| humbletx | May 11 2013, 10:00 AM Post #9 |
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IIRC Meyer won 10 games his first year at Utah - something Utah had never done in its history winning 10 games. His second season, with Alex Smith at QB - went undefeated, and again IIRC beat Alabama in a BCS bowl game. The made the move to UF - working with R. Zook's kids (Zook has always been known as a recruiting machine). The thing that stands out - the man can coach - as well as recruit. |
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| BJVOL III | May 11 2013, 01:24 PM Post #10 |
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His first and second years at Utah, Meyer won using the players he inherited. It shows he can coach but nothing about recruiting like Tux claims. At Florida, he did win with Zook's players but nothing about recruiting. When he left Fl, the program was a mess. At Ohio State he is recruiting well like every coach has there because of the advantage of a large in-state recruiting base. He went undefeated last year because of a QB he inherited and a weak schedule, not having faced a team in the top 17. Michigan finished 18. This year Ohio State has an even easier schedule. If they play for the NC, it will be a one game season for them. Then everyone will claim he is the greatest coach in history. He should try coaching at Cincinnati, where he got his degree. Then we would find out how good of a coach he really is. |
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| el diablo | May 12 2013, 02:12 PM Post #11 |
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Doug Matthews spoke on and on about the difference in the program with Butch Jones. I hope we hand on to those recruits in Feb b/c I don't know how many games this team can win. Damn, Oregon may score 100. |
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| *OrangeRev | May 12 2013, 03:54 PM Post #12 |
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Honestly guys, this storyline is no different than Dooley's. In Dooley's first full year of recruiting the state of Tennessee, he created a ton of excitement and pulled in 7 of the 9 qualified in state recruits, and really only one of those two that didn't sign (Jabriel Washington to Alabama) was considered a recruiting loss. Jones has only received a verbal from 3 of the 11 in-state offers ... mainly a boost from the legacies. Doubting Jones? I'll keep my orange goggles off for the time being, thank you. I want him to succeed and in a major way, but he still hasn't won a game at Tennessee and he still hasn't dominated recruiting in Tennessee even to the level of Dooley's fiirst year. Edited by OrangeRev, May 12 2013, 03:54 PM.
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| BJVOL III | May 13 2013, 08:20 AM Post #13 |
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Rev Sounds like the Jones can't do anything to get you in his camp other than win 10 games with Dooley's and Kiffen's recruits. You forget that Dooley had the advantage of Kiffen recruiting hard until he got the call from USC in January. Dooley quit recruiting by mid season and Jones only had 30 days to try to get recruits. Also, Jones had to undue the damage Dooley did to recruiting in Tenn. I think you need to take off your AV glasses see the situation more accurately. |
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| *OrangeRev | May 13 2013, 08:48 AM Post #14 |
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I am calm now about the 2013 recruiting class, and giving Jones mostly a pass on it - I think Dooley indeed did a lot of damage to that class. When I refer to the "first full year" of Dooley, I am not talking about the 2010 class but the 2011 class, which is more appropriate for comparing to Jones' "first full year" of 2014. And, I should mention that I am optimistic about what I've seen with the 2014 class, and actually giving Jones a B thus far on 2014 recruiting. He's done really well at filling needed holes at TE, DB, and OL ... let's not forget a gem in RB Hurd (though we need another large back). His downside is that we are still sucking wind with getting linebackers and D-linemen - the state of these positions reminds me of Robot flailing his arms while repeating "Danger-Danger-Danger". In the end, just on numbers alone (29-30), he'll walk away with a top-10 class. But, we have got to fill these gaping holes at LB and DL. Jones isn't going to win 10 games this year ... his "par" should be a 6-win season with the talent and experience he has. I do not think I am wearing either AV glasses or orange goggles. |
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| BJVOL III | May 13 2013, 09:04 AM Post #15 |
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There's still a lot of time to get LB and DL's in this class. You give him a B at this time while the class is rated in the top ten now. Wouldn't that earn an A at this time? Also, what your missing is the way Jones is building enthusiasm for the program. Dooley was just a new coach who always gets a lot of excitement. Jones goes beyond that by developing a plan to recruit in Tenn and elsewhere based on Tenn traditions. Dooley was mostly negative toward what he saw at Tenn. The players don't know how to shower, etc. The big question is can Jones survive the first two years without so much negative input from the fan base that turns recruits off. Even if he wins 6 games this year, will recruits still be interested in Tenn because of the mediocre record. The same for the following year. He has an up hill battle. You may not be wearing AV or orange goggles, but you should have your prescription checked. |
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