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Topic Started: Oct 24 2012, 06:41 PM (278 Views)
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From Volnation......

To avoid confusion I am putting LWS's comments in bold.

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I say fire him before the season is over and start looking for a coach so they can come in and hopefully save any recruits we have coming in worth keeping. Hart better hire a homerun this time and make money no option. Spend the cash Hart so Tennessee football can be relevant again!

i think you do after next week so you don't risk possibilty he makes a bowl game.

they really are planning to go for Gruden... see if they can afford and can convince


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have any of you heard anything about Dave Hart telling Dooley and the other coaches after the MSU loss that they would be traveling back to Knoxville with him and not the team? According to the rumor, he rounded up the coaches and they all flew back to Knoxville together......

was Hart / Dooley and families.. don't believe it was all coaches

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The Dooley Debate Rages At UT; Sources Claim He Talked Buyout Last Year

there was a LOT of important people upset after the Kentucky loss last year and many had conversations with CDD about that. It would not be a surprise if that type discussion was part of those conversations.. it would be logical for that to come up when speaking of the disappointment of losing to that Kentucky team..I don't think that is that big a deal that is being made about it. seems rather normal to me..

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LWS in your opinion was the massive staff change the choice of CDD, or the choice of the staff that left?

both..

baggett / Dooley agreed to part ways. CDD wouldn't help with discipline on 21

Hiestand was looking and CDD did nothing to prevent that.

Joseph leaving was from Sal.. wanted his guy instead

Russell, Wilcox and Sirmon were their choices. Wilcox wanted Joesph gone but CDD would not play that, at the time. Sirmon was with Wilcox whatever he did. He tried to hang onto Russell. not sure how much on the other two.

thompson left because was considered for DC.

those are my understandings..


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this looks pretty obvious in retrospect, but there were risks with this plan also.

however it looks like a no brainer when you factor in the length of CDD's contract plus the fact that his buyout is larger than that of mack brown at texas. can we get this put in the dictionary as the definition of insanity?

the next coach we hire will have that kind of buyout also.. we will not be able to hire any coach without that type protection.. even Gruden at 5 or 6 million a year will require a huge buyout to sign on
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Originally Posted by Volcano
You posted over on VN that UT was going after Gruden. That's quite a departure from what you've said on more than a few occasions i.e Smart and UT not spending the money. Are you at liberty to go into further details on what you've heard?

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started hearing Wed dooley had parameters on rest of season. has been picking up steam all week. parameters, IMO, that can't be met, win 5 of last 6.

last 48 hours the gruden talk has increased greatly. comments like he is going to have to say no. We will see what he does and what we do. if he says no, I've not heard any other names mentioned and still think Smart would be high on Harts list but do not believe now that he would be allowed to keep Sal

one other comment, Gruden would energize a fan base that is crumbling. I think that has really escalated interest, at any cost

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Originally Posted by LeonVol

Why couldn't smart keep sal?

AD is highly disappointed and frankly mad as hell at the outcomes. knew it would be rough but far worse than expected..
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So does this squash the notion that Sunseri was hand picked by Hart?

Hart was on board with Sal which is why he is so upset. I think it was Dooley's call but Hart fully endorsed it

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Originally Posted by StraightVol

How much power does Hart have to hire a new coach when Dooley's buyout greatly overreaches our reserve fund, not to mention the increased debt we'd incur to hire an established coach? Doesn't all this have to be facilitated by a dissatisfied booster or group of boosters? I think a ten million dollar donation could make a lot of things possible. It would take care of Dooley's buyout, and, if UT put a little money with it, it would give us about 6 million to bring in a championship level coach. Ten million doesn't seem like that much money considering Jimmy Haslam just invested a billion in the the worst franchise in the NFL.

maybe someone already has that covered and more

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Another interesting one from Volnation....

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Ok, just curious, I was just listening to Ainge yesterday, he said that he doesn't know the Head Coach and doesn't know the AD, but knows the people who do make the decisions. Dave Hart doesn't make those decisions, he may have a say in it, and might get credit for it, good or bad, but he isn't ultimately the one who makes the decision. Then there was the comment about how Tennessee could throw 10 mil at a coach if they want. I'm no insider, but if Hart isn't making that decision, and if money isn't really an issue (which you don't agree on), then i can't see them taking another project from the Bama coaching staff.

Please don't take this as me trying to discredit you, I know you've had some solid info in the past, I just wanted to get your thoughts on conflicting reports. What i have been hearing is that the boosters and alums aren't necessarily anti-Dooley, but they are pro-big name/splash hire.


Gruden was called by a booster last time when Dooley was hired. he said they could talk for 5.5 million. booster hung up the phone..

agree Hart will lots of input on decision. the Pilot guy flew to Louisiana to talk to current coach when he was hired.. so they do get involved..
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LWS sounds like a credible guy in those emails.
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Here are the latest quotes from Larry:

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"I think all that has occurred to date is talk with 3rd or 4th parties to see if there is interest. there has been no deal even vclose to being made per my sources.

Hart and Tennessee would lose respect throughout the football universe to strike a deal before even having an opening. everyone checks on interest but having direct contact with a coach still in place, you cannot be trusted in the future.

I've checked with sources I know at ESPN and none believe Gruden is headed to any college but back to the NFL, next season. One source got that comment directly from a Gruden co-worker on Monday nights.

I realize that could change if talks get to a serious point but don't expect that until there is an opening or I should say IF there is an opening.

I've been out and getting text messages and emails with various places saying there is a done deal. I do not believe it is close to going that far. per my contacts"
Larry knows a few folks, but his truly inside sources at the top level have dried up when Dave Hart came onboard and sealed the leaks.
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Here are the latest quotes from Larry:

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"I think all that has occurred to date is talk with 3rd or 4th parties to see if there is interest. there has been no deal even vclose to being made per my sources.

Hart and Tennessee would lose respect throughout the football universe to strike a deal before even having an opening. everyone checks on interest but having direct contact with a coach still in place, you cannot be trusted in the future.

I've checked with sources I know at ESPN and none believe Gruden is headed to any college but back to the NFL, next season. One source got that comment directly from a Gruden co-worker on Monday nights.

I realize that could change if talks get to a serious point but don't expect that until there is an opening or I should say IF there is an opening.

I've been out and getting text messages and emails with various places saying there is a done deal. I do not believe it is close to going that far. per my contacts"
Larry knows a few folks, but his truly inside sources at the top level have dried up when Dave Hart came onboard and sealed the leaks.
The leaks are not sealed. Volvulus has talked to UTAD staff workers and they don't know exactly what hart is going to do but there is a LOT of chatter coming from within the UTAD. I am sure LWSVOL still knows tons of people who work in the UTAD.

The word that I have heard over and over and over is that Drool's is 100% different behind the scenes than he is with the press. He treats the UTAD personell with snobbiness. He does the same with ex UT players who really either don't know him because he won't give them the time of day OR he is nasty to them. And as LWSVOL confirms what I already knew- the reason Baggett left was because Da'Prick was calling him "house N-word" and all kinds of other crap on the practice field while Drool's did absolutely NOTHING about it. The HC did not have one of his assistants back when a dirtbag player was acting out.

Drool's hasn't made a single solitary friend in the Knoxville media or with the BOT or with the large donors. he is universally thought of as a snobby spoiled prick- hence his nickname of Precious.

The sooner the prick can be fired the better for UT Football and for Recruiting.
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Here are the latest quotes from Larry:

Quote:
 
"I think all that has occurred to date is talk with 3rd or 4th parties to see if there is interest. there has been no deal even vclose to being made per my sources.

Hart and Tennessee would lose respect throughout the football universe to strike a deal before even having an opening. everyone checks on interest but having direct contact with a coach still in place, you cannot be trusted in the future.

I've checked with sources I know at ESPN and none believe Gruden is headed to any college but back to the NFL, next season. One source got that comment directly from a Gruden co-worker on Monday nights.

I realize that could change if talks get to a serious point but don't expect that until there is an opening or I should say IF there is an opening.

I've been out and getting text messages and emails with various places saying there is a done deal. I do not believe it is close to going that far. per my contacts"
Larry knows a few folks, but his truly inside sources at the top level have dried up when Dave Hart came onboard and sealed the leaks.
It's impossible to keep everything hush-hush. There are still many ways and sources, in spite of anyone's best efforts to keep things mum.
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His first year, the ex GF had a friend who cut kiffie's and Dools hair. She said there was no comparison, that kiffie was much easier to deal with. That is the kind of attitude you can get away with when winning, but not when losing.
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Oct 25 2012, 11:44 AM
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Here are the latest quotes from Larry:

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"I think all that has occurred to date is talk with 3rd or 4th parties to see if there is interest. there has been no deal even vclose to being made per my sources.

Hart and Tennessee would lose respect throughout the football universe to strike a deal before even having an opening. everyone checks on interest but having direct contact with a coach still in place, you cannot be trusted in the future.

I've checked with sources I know at ESPN and none believe Gruden is headed to any college but back to the NFL, next season. One source got that comment directly from a Gruden co-worker on Monday nights.

I realize that could change if talks get to a serious point but don't expect that until there is an opening or I should say IF there is an opening.

I've been out and getting text messages and emails with various places saying there is a done deal. I do not believe it is close to going that far. per my contacts"
Larry knows a few folks, but his truly inside sources at the top level have dried up when Dave Hart came onboard and sealed the leaks.
The leaks are not sealed. Volvulus has talked to UTAD staff workers and they don't know exactly what hart is going to do but there is a LOT of chatter coming from within the UTAD. I am sure LWSVOL still knows tons of people who work in the UTAD.

The word that I have heard over and over and over is that Drool's is 100% different behind the scenes than he is with the press. He treats the UTAD personell with snobbiness. He does the same with ex UT players who really either don't know him because he won't give them the time of day OR he is nasty to them. And as LWSVOL confirms what I already knew- the reason Baggett left was because Da'Prick was calling him "house N-word" and all kinds of other crap on the practice field while Drool's did absolutely NOTHING about it. The HC did not have one of his assistants back when a dirtbag player was acting out.

Drool's hasn't made a single solitary friend in the Knoxville media or with the BOT or with the large donors. he is universally thought of as a snobby spoiled prick- hence his nickname of Precious.

The sooner the prick can be fired the better for UT Football and for Recruiting.
This, imo, is the single most example of AV malarkey I have every read. Snobbiness with UTAD is malarkey, LWSVOL never said anything about the N word with Rogers, and you are backing a media that includes individuals that quote "inside sources" that Randy Shannon is the next DC AND Chavis is coming back to UT as DC during BCS Championship week AND the Zooker is being interviewed for DC despite faxgate.

For a guy that has all these "UT Sources", is the self proclaimed recruiting guru of the SEC, has not attended a UT football game in years, you certainly have your finger on the pulse of UT football. I just wish you would change the middle finger for your thumb and not spout opinions as facts. I appreciate all the wonderful work you do in colon cancer prevention, but I'm going to call BS when you present fiction/opinion as fact.
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While I'm enjoying this thread a great deal...I'm not sure I follow the middle finger and thumb thing.....
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