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| *TennesseeTuxedo | Aug 20 2012, 09:50 AM Post #1 |
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Texas has allowed their LHN to destroy the Big 12 whicch allowed the PAC 12 and the SEC to enter into their own backyard. Their arrogance is fun to watch. Lucy keeps pulling the football away as they try to kick the ball. One year later, the Longhorn Network still creates frustration for Texas fans ![]() |
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| BJVOL III | Aug 20 2012, 09:56 AM Post #2 |
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They also lost A & M over their arrogance. It was a great traditional rivalry that has gone into oblivion. |
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| humbletx | Aug 21 2012, 01:25 PM Post #3 |
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The state of Texas is a big place - and has no so called back yard. Focusing on football - > 350 sign scholarships each and every year - of those 30 to 40% go OOS - then the other BCS conference teams in the state get their fair share. The major players have always recruited the state of Texas - its not as if the D/FW, Houston areas just built highways and airports. East Texas has always been a prime area for LSU, the same for Arkansas. Some how you don't believe Dane Johnson, Hal Wasson, James Morton, Kenny Perry, Dave Henigan, Jack Welsh, Gary Bartel, Reginald Samples, Willie Amendola, Corby Meekins, Mark Schmid, Tim Buchanan, Randy Allen, Tom Westerberg, John Walsh, are on first name basis with Nick Saban, Lane Kiffin, Chip Kelly, Les Miles, Bob Stoops, Jimbo Fisher, Dana Holgorsen, David Shaw, Urban Meyer, Derek Dooley, Gary Pinkel? #1 - Texas A&M was offered a partnership with Texas in what is now the ESPN property - LHN. Turned this down. The Aggies made their decisions based on what they feel is in the best interest of their university - god bless'em. As to the rivalry issue - again the Aggies moved on - their decision. What most folks fail to grasp - the partnership between both the UT and A&M systems remain sound - though there is a move towards Rice University in the making (FWIW - Rice and Texas were the sponsors for Texas A&M becoming a member of the AAU in 2001) If you're talking about a rivalry in athletics - check the results. Yes TuxAg knows the words to the Aggie War Hymn, recalls the glory days, i.e. Bonfire, "good bull", It's way past time for TuxAg and all his nutt grabbin' brotherhood to drop the hatred, drop the envy, and do what "Bow Tie" has stated - develop your own identity - stand on your own. #2 - some fail to understand these so called 3rd tier rights (and as it stands now they remain the property of each school in the SEC) have value - and its not difficult to understand them - just look at the revenue numbers by school within the SEC. UTA had been working on this for a number of years - and footing the bill from the get go - and felt they could make it work through their own school of Communications. FOX showed a great deal of interest as a national content provider - ESPN came in and offered a fair deal to UTA, something the folks in other places, say College Station didn't expect to happen, and in the Aggies case - missing out on what would have been an additional 7.5 million per year - its not difficult to understand why the Ags were upset. (and props to ESPN for using the LHN to broadcast if IIRC 6 games for UT - San Antonio.) - ESPN has not, as of yet struck a deal with the national cable carriers, the carriers don't want to pay the premium - knowing they will have to at some point in time (for all the naysayers go back and look at tBTN deal) Of more importance - relating to Project X - every team in the SEC should be rooting for ESPN to make their LHN a tremendous success, i.e. getting a carrier to agree to their price. #3 - there is a downside to all this - targeting Project X - Florida and to an extent Alabama. Florida for the obvious reasons - large flagship university - and a national brand. In sports - a national championship caliber program, year round. Alabama is on the edge of being the same sort of program - or possibly an Alabama/Auburn network. As it stands now - the revenue generated by 3rd tier stuff goes directly to the individual schools - and in some cases within the SEC a nice chunk of change. Yes, the SEC has been successful with its contracts 1st and 2nd - revenues divided equally - even though the elites are the ones doing the heavy lifting. As it stands now - the BTN, the PAC-12, and the LHN are a part of the equation - while the LHN is just a 300 million dollar deal - putting together one that is say 300 million X 14 teams, and getting the carriers to pay a premium - well the success of the LHN will be key in getting close to that number. #4 as to destroying the Big 12? The Big 12 started with 4 teams from the SWC and the entire Big 8. The former Big 8 schools, Missouri, Colorado, Nebraska, made their decisions - and good ones. Nebraska is in a conference with schools that can help NU improve academically. CU is a good fit in the PAC-12. Missouri and A&M have been elite academic universities. Somehow in less than a year the destroyed Big 12 has been able to strike a deal, 50:50 partnership with the SEC - in a post season "Champions" game - one that will, IMO wind up being played in Jerryworld - even with both San Antonio and Houston now getting interested. And yes its an equal share - conference wise; SEC - splits their half among 14 teams the Big 12 - splits theirs among 10 teams. FWIW - ESPN had done a nice job with it product - neat clean, professional http://www.barkingcarnival.com/2012/8/21/3258070/manny-diaz-wired-at-practice-lhn Edited by humbletx, Aug 21 2012, 01:32 PM.
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| Shakearag | Aug 21 2012, 02:27 PM Post #4 |
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The Voice of Al Sharpton
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The winner of the "championship game" should get 70 percent with the loser 30 percent to share. Good idea huh???? |
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| BJVOL III | Aug 21 2012, 04:51 PM Post #5 |
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Awesome
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So humbletx, what's your opinion on all this??? |
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| humbletx | Aug 21 2012, 10:33 PM Post #6 |
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Opinion on what exactly? From the business side - things in Austin are good - make that better than good. The Aggies made the move, based on dollars - how that works out is, at this point, anyones guess. There is potential to be on the same level of the University of Florida - across the board - history says they'll sh*t and fall back in to it.. In the state of Texas - well they do indeed have a piece of the east Texas area - that'll never change. I've an MBA from an elite business program - and spent a good number of years in the area of business. So I can speak to business decisions made by organizations - and say that the 300 million EPSN has invested in the LHN is a spit in the wind - from ESPN's viewpoint. Don't believe me - IIC EPSN is generating a billion a month w/o any advertising. 300 million over what 20 year? If someone wants to question ESPN's investment - take that up with ESPN. The contractual agreements between ESPN and UTA - is a rather small number, dollar wise - a pittance is a good word to use. Now, *if* EPSN is successful with the relationship, and there isn't any reason to believe otherwise, ESPN's investment will be very, very rewarding to ESPN - that is what great organizations do. IMO, the 300 million investment isn't a big deal - though a greater number, dollar wise, than *if* UTA hand partnered with FOX , or gone it alone. It's also important, all things considered FOX was the partner - before ESPN flashed the cash.. FOX felt it was a good investment, ESPN thought it was a better investment, dollar wise. As to UTA - nothing is slowing down the money train. In the area of branded products, the last couple of seasons, football wise, have be horrible, and one would suspect, the merchandize piece would reflect that - and it didn't. UTA remains the #1 program in the nation in selling "stuff". The ability of UTA to leverage its profile is without question as good as it gets - and it shows. Deloss Dodds, as does Jeremy Foley at UF - are as good at their jobs as anyone - and its safe to say - better than anyone else. Will this continue? UTA is the first to break the 150 million number - and some project they'll be the first to break the 200 million number - in the next couple of years. All I can say is that is a lot of dollars - that to date the university has used wisely - and no reason that will change. As it applies to UTA - and an athletic department that is, as of today generating >150 million and and - the deal with ESPN isn't a big deal. My opinion? Texas A&M, specifically had made bad decision after bad decision, after and even worse decisions - all based on what? College athletics? There isn't anyway to avoid the facts - A&M athletics have been, at best, behind UTA - the numbers support that. True the A&M "brand" is behind that of UTA - credit where it belongs. Academics - being in the same conversation with both Rice and UTA is a positive - ranking wise behind both isn't something to be ashamed of - that the move to the SEC puts A&M in the same region of Vanderbilt is a good thing from a brand standpoint. Now, that decision is up to the kid and their parents - and having been in that position - all I can say is I'm proud of our kid and the time they spent (and continue to do so) at Vanderbilt. From the college athletics standpoint - the Ag will be one of the elites in several sports - excluding football. For them to become an elite in the SECW - lots of things outside their control have to happen - and that isn't a happening thing - even though they have hired one hell of a guy to run the program - with the understanding kids they offer 'ships will have ones from the likes of Arkansas, LSU, Alabama and Auburn, as well as the elites from around the nation. That doesn't change with the Aggies move to the SEC. Not playing Texas at Thanksgiving? BFD. *If* the opinion you ask for is from a parent and a fan view - watching the Aggies get a football shoved up their arses - well its a tradition, hullaballoo kanceck kanceck. We'll still make the trek to College Station, and to a point enjoy the day trip. Before and after the game we're still neighbors, friends and family. Edited by humbletx, Aug 21 2012, 10:50 PM.
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| humbletx | Aug 21 2012, 10:44 PM Post #7 |
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guessing here - Slive made the deal - based on the hand he was delt. Nashville, Atlanta, New Orleans, Houston, Dallas/Fort Worth, San Antonio.. The two that pop to the surface New Orleans and Dallas/Fort Worth. Dollar wise - and deep pockets - Dallas and JerryWorld win that one.. None the less - the split of money isn't a point of discussion - where the game will be played - and which area get those dollars go with Jerra Jones on this one. |
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