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| BJVOL III | Aug 18 2012, 08:49 AM Post #1 |
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http://cfn.scout.com/2/1097657.html Tenn ranks 9th in all-time ratings. I think it would be a lot higher if Tenn had a better recruiting base. Both Tenn and Neb are the best examples of teams that still survive without much of a state feeder system of recruits. Unfortunately, when they have down years, they faller harder than the other teams with a recruiting crutch. |
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| humbletx | Aug 18 2012, 11:13 AM Post #2 |
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Interesting you mention "recruiting" base - and this list goes back to 1936. Look at the college HOF'ers from Tennessee from 1936 - and where they came from - Huntland, Knoxville, Kingston, Humbolt, Cleveland, Chattanooga - and - OOS'ers WV,OH, La Va, Florida. Things changed with the scholarship limits - and yes even the basic academic requirements. Notre Dame - has always recruited "nationally" as well as the midwest. Alabama - has, much like Tennessee, shown the ability to go OOS - even more so since Saban arrived. IIRC his 2011 class is from > 10 different states. Nebraska - benefited from the "same, same" Devaney through Warden Tom, and the use of JUCOers - and select OOS kids who fit into a nice well coached, fundamentally sound system. When Nebraska crashed and burned that can be chalked up to Bill Callahan who drove the program in to the ground. Pellini has done a nice job turning things around. Tennessee - go back and look how good the states of Ohio and Pennsylvania have been to the program - Ohio in particular Cleveland and Cincinnati. IMO both have been as good as North Carolina and Virginia recruiting wise to the program down through the years. |
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| *TennesseeTuxedo | Aug 18 2012, 11:18 AM Post #3 |
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Nebaraska had a great feeder system. Most of their linemen were walk-ons who played on state scholarship as part of their land-grant university status. They thrived in the Devany-Osborne system via chop blocks and technique. When the NCAA decided to start getting very serious about steroid testing, a certain coach opted to retire and the Bugeaters offensive line was no longer a powerful locomotive that it was in the past glory years. |
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| humbletx | Aug 18 2012, 11:58 AM Post #4 |
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Another one of those myths - the county scholarship program.. Land grant university - WTF? http://www.tennessee.edu/aboutut/history/index.html You tend to knock juicers - yet your first love is the NFL. Aggie logic. Considering the love you showed for a certain defensive coordinator by the name of Kiffin - where did he learn the tricks of the trade - and how well did he use then in the NFL.. It's well known fact using the needle wasn't an exclusive to Nebraska - there wasn't a program in the nation that didn't have someone using. And yes Nebraska destroyed the best teams - all comers. Yes their basic offense was a machine - just Nothing fancy > 60 rushing plays and IIRC over 400 total yards. Anyone that watched that game, first hand, knew there was a difference between the two teams - regardless of the fact one was loaded with NFL players. Edited by humbletx, Aug 18 2012, 12:00 PM.
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| *TennesseeTuxedo | Aug 18 2012, 02:04 PM Post #5 |
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My love for the NFL has nothing to do with Nebraska players juicing under Dr. Tom. Few of their heralded linemen ever made it in the league. There was a reason why. Their program died as soon as Tom stepped down. It was dead before Callahan took it over. You forgot that the Nebraska teams under Solich were not very good and came immediately after Tom left and he oversaw the dismantling of the Nebraska O-Line pipeline. |
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| BJVOL III | Aug 18 2012, 11:06 PM Post #6 |
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Let's not forget the rise of the black athlete in the SEC during the 1970's. The pipeline from the South to the Big Ten changed. This helped schools like Ga, Ala, Auburn etc. Again, Tenn did not have enough of these athletes in state. |
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| humbletx | Aug 19 2012, 09:45 AM Post #7 |
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One day, or maybe not, folks will limit the lack of recruiting base within the state - traditionally ranking in the 15 to 17 range. 40 to 50 per year - including JUCOers. Again - scholarship limits impact recruiting - the states that have large HS's with excellent coaching, get calls, visits, etc, around the clock - day in and out. Example a local community HS - Alief Taylor so far three of their players have made verbal commitments - One to the PAC-12, one to the SEC, another to the Big 12. All having received multiple offers. The same for another HS in their district - Eisenhower. Move up to the D/FW and coaches from around the nation are thicker than flies on a melon rind. Heck Tennessee nabbed one this past year. The numbers don't change -of the 401 kids signed last year - 169 HS'ers, prep kid, JUCOers went OOS to schools in the- ACC, Big 10, SEC, WAC, Mountain West, CUSA, Notre Dame. Close to the same number of kids in total from Alabama and Louisiana combined - and more than the number out of the state of Georgia. |
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