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Interesting Recruiting Tidbit
Topic Started: Jun 18 2012, 11:09 AM (628 Views)
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Hubbs said that he hadn't heard of the practice, and doesn't understand how it would help establish a relationship with the school.

Actually "taking" the player and giving the player a scholarship is what helps establish the relationship.

By the way, I also asked him if there was damage when a committed player is let go, typically because they are being recruited over or they are struggling in their Sr. year (happened 3 times last year). I asked if this affected the relationship with the school. He said:
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Each situation is different, but pulling someone's offer or telling them to go elsewhere can be very hard on relationships. What happens alot of times is that players start to be encouraged to take other visits and not just straight up cut them. You won't see school's do it with in-state kids.
So, basically, if they value the relationship with the high school, they won't cut the offer ... so, for those who are thinking that the CAK kids might be recruited over and let go, then this seems unlikely.
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Again, I am just reporting what I heard and the guy seemed to have credibility. The CAK linemen may not be SEC material but DD may be trying to establish a foothold with that school. Or the wide receiver may be the one he is really after. With all the "wash outs" over the years, I am sure coaches give scholarships to a few players who they know won't make it, but are at HS's that will benefit them in the long run.
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Yes, there are reasons that a player is given a scholarship other than "he is a great talent that we need". Sometimes a player is given a scholarship as part of a package deal to get a premiere player (see Nash Nance), sometimes it is a legacy or a favor to a major booster, and sometimes we give a scholarship just because we have a major hole to fill on the roster (and that player will likely be recruited over in the future).

To get in the graces of coaches of High Schools, money is often sometimes funneled to the school for equipment and resources. Coaches may also benefit ... ummm ... "personally", even to the extent that they get a job at the college if the player eventually signs - there are rumors at Georgia that Brandon Staley got the job at UT after Cordarrelle Patterson signed, but of course everyone denies it.

And, of course, we are all familiar with the money that gets funneled to players and their relatives.

So, yeah, lots of underhanded deals and strategies are employed in the recruiting game. And, I imagine that there are lots of things we never know about, and some that don't even make sense.
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Jun 19 2012, 08:30 AM
Yes, there are reasons that a player is given a scholarship other than "he is a great talent that we need". Sometimes a player is given a scholarship as part of a package deal to get a premiere player (see, sometimes it is a legacy or a favor to a major booster, and sometimes we give a scholarship just because we have a major hole to fill on the roster (and that player will likely be recruited over in the future).

To get in the graces of coaches of High Schools, money is often sometimes funneled to the school for equipment and resources. Coaches may also benefit ... ummm ... "personally", even to the extent that they get a job at the college if the player eventually signs - there are rumors at Georgia that Brandon Staley got the job at UT after Cordarrelle Patterson signed, but of course everyone denies it.

And, of course, we are all familiar with the money that gets funneled to players and their relatives.

So, yeah, lots of underhanded deals and strategies are employed in the recruiting game. And, I imagine that there are lots of things we never know about, and some that don't even make sense.
What you've outlined is something Slive has done a fantastic job attempting to end in the SEC. Unfortunately its still waiting out there to be tapped - if the real recruiting wars break out..

FWIW the state HS coaches associations are now cracking down on the less than ethical HCes - guys pulling down 6 figures are getting released or out right fired for pulling stunts you've mentioned.

Again with Tennessee offering so many scholarships - IMO these are 1st come 1st served - X number of players are offered - with only 2 slots available. When those get filled the other offers come off the table. This is explained in detail during the offer phase.

Recruiting is more of a science these days - due to scholarship limits - no school has an overabundance of scholarships to offer, i.e. the pair deal - in other words give a kid a ride - 4 years that at best contributes in practice - and maybe, just maybe becomes a letterman his senior year. That is a slot "filled" and unavailable for 3 to 4 years.

There is some interesting data tracked over this time frame - 4 years later, attrition, letters won, honors, # of wins, etc. Very telling about the impact a recruiting class has over its life span.
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