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ROI - danged Tennessee
Topic Started: Jun 13 2012, 07:41 PM (298 Views)
humbletx


blows through the dollars - recruiting.. Better hope the day doesn't come where buying players is the norm..

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/recruiting/football/story/_/id/8041461/the-cost-recruiting
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When your state is not a populous state full of black kids, you have to go to where they live.
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At one and one half million dollars a year, Dooley has to be the highest spending coach in TN football history. All this while ticket sales are dipping to all time lows since we expanded to 105,000 seats. I hope we recruited a bunch of All Americans spending that amount of money.
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Tnphil


For years..........Tennessee has been at the top or very near the top in spending on recruiting.
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Tnphil
Jun 14 2012, 07:22 AM
For years..........Tennessee has been at the top or very near the top in spending on recruiting.
+1
This is not a new phenominon. It costs money to get on airplanes and fly all over the country. Not like one of the big Florida schools that can use cars to recruit two thirds of a good class.
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Jun 13 2012, 09:34 PM
When your state is not a populous state full of black kids, you have to go to where they live.
Wow - how far is the greater metropolitan Atlanta area from Knoxville Aggie?

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Atlanta is not owned by UT, Texie. Most of those kids grow up UGA fans. Every school in the SEC recruits Atlanta hard. We still a lot of good players from there, but we are not the crowd favorite with those kids, as kids in places like FSU, Florida are in their ball parks.
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LonzoVol
Jun 14 2012, 08:54 AM
Tnphil
Jun 14 2012, 07:22 AM
For years..........Tennessee has been at the top or very near the top in spending on recruiting.
+1
This is not a new phenominon. It costs money to get on airplanes and fly all over the country. Not like one of the big Florida schools that can use cars to recruit two thirds of a good class.
And that is the point - flying all over the country - why?

Not having great air service out of McGee Tyson does pose a problem - yet using the 250 mile, one way, puts Tennessee is the middle of great recruiting areas. Even using the Aggie way of thinking...

Getting in a car and driving from N. Florida to Miami? How is that different than say driving from Knoxville to Birmingham or Atlanta - where Tennessee could use cars and recruit 2/3's of a good class?

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humbletx
Jun 15 2012, 09:00 AM
LonzoVol
Jun 14 2012, 08:54 AM
Tnphil
Jun 14 2012, 07:22 AM
For years..........Tennessee has been at the top or very near the top in spending on recruiting.
+1
This is not a new phenominon. It costs money to get on airplanes and fly all over the country. Not like one of the big Florida schools that can use cars to recruit two thirds of a good class.
And that is the point - flying all over the country - why?

Not having great air service out of McGee Tyson does pose a problem - yet using the 250 mile, one way, puts Tennessee is the middle of great recruiting areas. Even using the Aggie way of thinking...

Getting in a car and driving from N. Florida to Miami? How is that different than say driving from Knoxville to Birmingham or Atlanta - where Tennessee could use cars and recruit 2/3's of a good class?

Point taken on north Florida to Miami. However, Tux's point about kids in a certain state growing up as fans of the state school or schools is also valid. The state of Tennessee simply almost never produces any big time defensive linemen and that is one huge problem since defensive linemen are the toughest studs to land after marquee quarterbacks.
I think this year you are seeing a return to the Carolinas and Virginia since Sunseri, Graham and Pittman have been added to the staff. The Piedmont was once a fertile hunting ground for Tennessee hopefully it will be again.
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Now Texie is an economist. Is Milton Friedman really posting on TVO? :popcorn:
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humbletx


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Jun 15 2012, 08:42 AM
Atlanta is not owned by UT, Texie. Most of those kids grow up UGA fans. Every school in the SEC recruits Atlanta hard. We still a lot of good players from there, but we are not the crowd favorite with those kids, as kids in places like FSU, Florida are in their ball parks.
Bwhahahahahahahahaha Aggie - typical BS - your original statement - "fly to populous states filled with black players" - that would be Georgia. Ag pulls one out of his arse about owning something - ever wonder how many Tennessee graduates live in the greater metropolitan Atlanta area? 200 miles away and you act as if Tennessee is an unknown commodity in the area.. Sheeesh and hoooboy.

FWIW Ag what city is owned by Tennessee?

Every other school in the SEC recruits Atlanta "hard" - and Tennessee has a head coach should have an edge for obvious reasons - Ag. UGa grad, son of another UGa legend, made Nick Saban the man he is today, So where are these other states filled with black players - Mississippi, Alabama, Louisiana?

Now - where is the ROI - the original question..




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MIUlton, Tennessee has not had a city nor a state population putting out enough talent to build a great program on.

Maybe Texas should start spending more money recruiting. Their ROI is not what one would expect out of a state with it's population and recruiting hot beds.
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LonzoVol
Jun 15 2012, 09:13 AM
humbletx
Jun 15 2012, 09:00 AM
LonzoVol
Jun 14 2012, 08:54 AM
Tnphil
Jun 14 2012, 07:22 AM
For years..........Tennessee has been at the top or very near the top in spending on recruiting.
+1
This is not a new phenominon. It costs money to get on airplanes and fly all over the country. Not like one of the big Florida schools that can use cars to recruit two thirds of a good class.
And that is the point - flying all over the country - why?

Not having great air service out of McGee Tyson does pose a problem - yet using the 250 mile, one way, puts Tennessee is the middle of great recruiting areas. Even using the Aggie way of thinking...

Getting in a car and driving from N. Florida to Miami? How is that different than say driving from Knoxville to Birmingham or Atlanta - where Tennessee could use cars and recruit 2/3's of a good class?

Point taken on north Florida to Miami. However, Tux's point about kids in a certain state growing up as fans of the state school or schools is also valid. The state of Tennessee simply almost never produces any big time defensive linemen and that is one huge problem since defensive linemen are the toughest studs to land after marquee quarterbacks.
I think this year you are seeing a return to the Carolinas and Virginia since Sunseri, Graham and Pittman have been added to the staff. The Piedmont was once a fertile hunting ground for Tennessee hopefully it will be again.
Couple things - specifically the "Carolina's" - there have been a few good ones out of South Carolina - S. Ellis comes to mind (as well as the great Stanley Morgan) otherwise - not much down through the years.

North Carolina - a different story nice mix of players Little, Lloyd, Shuler, Marvin, Standback, etc.

Yet the one state that was a gold mine for Tennessee - Ohio. The Reynolds, Roland James, Chuck Webb, McGee, Morgan, Price, (lots of skill position players)

Then the two big'uns that being Georgia and Alabama..

Yet spending that amount of money to recruit - N. Carolina, S. Carolina, Georgia, Alabama - all reachable via automobile/day trips?
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