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| Jessee Scroggins leaving USC | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Jun 4 2012, 04:16 PM (465 Views) | |
| *OrangeRev | Jun 4 2012, 04:16 PM Post #1 |
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Tree hug'n, bleed'n heart, lazy luv'n, global warm'n token liberal
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http://espn.go.com/blog/pac12/post/_/id/39595/jesse-scroggins-to-transfer If you remember, he was the primary QB that Kiffin was recruiting prior to Tyler Bray. Although Scroggins had toyed with the idea of coming to the "USC of the East", in the end he went to the school he had always wanted to attend. Think he will come here now? You know, to the "Alabama of the North"? |
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| humbletx | Jun 4 2012, 06:25 PM Post #2 |
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The academics deal needs attention. He'd be a great one here at Tennessee - Bray is gonna get a majority of the snaps in 2012 - meaning limited game experience for the back-ups. 2013 will be interesting - and depends on any decision Bray makes, or may not make. |
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| *Zippy | Jun 4 2012, 09:14 PM Post #3 |
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Burning Man, 2009 FOREVER
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There is basically zero reason for Scroggins to come to UT, unless he just wants to irritate Kiffin. Even then, that wouldn't do it. |
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| LonzoVol | Jun 4 2012, 10:05 PM Post #4 |
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Dang Texie, that's a leap suggesting that he could come to UT. I wouldn't trade Worley or Peterman for him straight up, I mean really now. Who's the better transfer, Scrotum or that Simms dude that left Gumpland? |
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| humbletx | Jun 5 2012, 08:15 PM Post #5 |
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Worley - At best a project. True freshman Peterman - see the above. Getting a top quality back-up in this class - and that is what Scroggins would be - excellent move. Coming to the University of Tennessee - after his experiences in a real pressure cooker - has its advantages. remember another highly sought after recruit - at Florida - had his issues - when JUCO - then came back to the SEC and ripped the conference a new ass hole.. I'd take my chances with Scroggins - just for a simple reason - watching Sanchez and Kiffin. The academics deal will be the killer - Dooley doesn't need any academic risks these days. |
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| LonzoVol | Jun 5 2012, 09:42 PM Post #6 |
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Certainly, Texie, you may be right. But can't agree on this one. Don't want Scrotum, don't want Sims, will stick with the two kids UT has behind Bray. Frankly, Sims would be the better get. He was basically even coming out of spring 2011 down in Tuscaloser and he just quite couldn't win the job. Scrotum, on the other hand, has done zero, zilch, nada to indicate that he might be a good QB in D1.
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| *Zippy | Jun 5 2012, 11:05 PM Post #7 |
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Burning Man, 2009 FOREVER
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From a numbers standpoint, it isnt. The only reason, in my opinion, why we'd want Scroggins is because we are relatively certian we are not keeping Worley or Peterman... BTW, Scroggins isnt Cam Newton. Lots of QB's go to a major school, crash and burn, then go to JC. Lots of those guys were 3 and 4 star prospects, too. Most of the time, they still suck after JC. The only one that's turned out to be Cam Newton is...well..Cam Newton. So no, that's not really an argument in Scroggins favor. Just statistically speaking alone it's virtually impossible that Scroggins will be all that. I would not take my chances with Scoggins, by the way. He may turn out to be great, what do I know (and I really dont). We've already got a Soph QB, though, and I know enough about Kiffin to know that a) he can coach, but b) he's full of shit and c) he can sign anyone he wants, but he doesnt necessarily evaluate who he wants very well (he can be both a great recruiter as well as a terrible one for that reason: succeeds in signing some enormously overrated players that dont pan out). I dont think I want any Kiffin rejects, to be honest. Or at least, the fact that anyone is one of them would give me some enormous pause. Edited by Zippy, Jun 5 2012, 11:07 PM.
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| *JollyVolly | Jun 6 2012, 09:38 AM Post #8 |
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A Very Manly Man
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Scroggins could be really good for all we know....he's just stuck behind Barkley. The final blow was when Barkley decided to stay for another year. I seriously doubt he would have UT on his radar. |
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| humbletx | Jun 6 2012, 09:54 PM Post #9 |
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spoken like a true wanna be - used Newton as an example of a top notch kid who didn't cut it at his first stop - got some excellent coaching over in Brehnam, won a NC there - then moved on to Auburn. How about this kid - a former UGa QB (who also won a NC in golf at UGa if I'm not mistaken) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nate_Hybl Scroggins is has more upside *potential* as a back -up and being the back-up at USC, behind a 1st round QB ain't a bad thing. |
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| gatewayghost | Jun 8 2012, 03:56 AM Post #10 |
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Scroggins was 4th team on USC's depth chart. I went to watch him play one time, talked to some of his family, and he seems to be a bit of the momma's boy type from adding 2 + 2 together based on the conversations. I don't see him going far from home. Although, I enjoyed watching him play, I'm not sure he's a major college QB. Great arm, but not sure he has those great QB instincts you need to play at this level, such as seeing the field and progressions. Throws too hard on short passes. |
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| LonzoVol | Jun 8 2012, 07:09 AM Post #11 |
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Worley's high school numbers literally dwarf Scrotum. I'm often left wondering why some have no confidence in Worley after one year in Knoxville. Was it because he didn't have a lot of success after being thrust into a bad situation. He was being red=shirted and was not getting any reps in practice until Bray was hurt. Guess we will just have to wait and see which one of them winds up having the better collegiate career. Right now, I'd bet it would be Worley.
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| gatewayghost | Jun 8 2012, 02:50 PM Post #12 |
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Awesome
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That was really unwise on Dooley's part to play him. I don't see how anyone could dish Worley either. I see some Ben Rothlensberger type potential in him. |
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| LonzoVol | Jun 8 2012, 03:08 PM Post #13 |
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Ghost, I think they paniced just a bit. Poor Matt Sims was stinking up the joint and the fans were howling for Worley, even though 90 percent of them didn't understand that he had not prepared and wasn't prepared to play last year. I have often wondered why they just didn't try Nash Nance first before going to Worley. They also had another QB who came with Dooley from La Tech, Doak Raulston, who left the program after the fall semester. Raulston had signed a full ride at La. Tech, but came with Dooley to UT as a walkon. In any event, the decision was made to try and salavage the season and apparently they felt Worley might give them the best chance. I will always believe that losing Hunter and Bray turned a potential 8-4 season into 5-7. I really feel like with those two healthy and playing that Tennessee would have beaten the Gayturds, Georgia and South Carolina last year. (And of course, the Mildrats!)
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| *Zippy | Jun 8 2012, 03:29 PM Post #14 |
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Burning Man, 2009 FOREVER
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I dont. Good kid, may end up being a good QB... but comparing him to Rothlisberger is like comparing a corvette to a humvee. Both can go from point a to point b, but they are completely different vehicles in every imaginable way. Keep in mind, I'm high on Worley and think he's going to be a heck of a qb. |
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| gatewayghost | Jun 8 2012, 04:08 PM Post #15 |
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Awesome
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I actaully ment he has Rothlenberger type style. He's got that big body and he seemed to try to use it the same as Big Ben. In that style of quarterbacking, you can extend a lot of plays where you normally have to throw the ball away or take a sack. The negative side is that you probably lead the league in getting sacked. Just from watching him in an unprepared environment, that seems to be the style he likes to play. |
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