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Da'Rick Rogers Is Bugging Out
Topic Started: Mar 29 2012, 10:49 AM (922 Views)
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Why is that every player a rival teams get from our state turns out good or great and the ones we get always underachieve?
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Mar 31 2012, 05:38 PM
Why is that every player a rival teams get from our state turns out good or great and the ones we get always underachieve?
Well, at least for 2008, Fulmer just completely whiffed recruiting players from the state of Tennessee.

Don'ta Hightower (a likely first-rounder this year in the NFL draft), Barrett Jones (Outland Trophy), and Chris Jordan all go to Alabama ... Alex Hurst goes to LSU and is an all-SEC 1st team player, projected in the 4th round of this year's NFL draft ... David Spurlock was a 4-year starter on the line at Florida State ... Randall Cobb becomes a star at Kentucky and is selected in the 2nd round of the NFL draft ... Michael McAdoo goes to North Carolina and eventually ends up (barely) on the Baltimore Ravens ...

... and, Tennessee woos the likes of Preston Bailey (left the team in 2009 for MTSU and eventually lost that scholarship when he got arrested on drug charges), OL Aaron Douglas (abandoned Tennessee for Alabama, and then sadly died of a drug OD), Montori Hughes (underachieved and left the team in 2010), Ben Bartholomew (a starter at FB this year) and Rod Wilks (special teams).

And people wonder why Fulmer needed to go ...
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That 5 star end the went to chattanooga or somewhere, corey miller,jacques smith,teague,rogers twins,we talk a lot of wilks. You could probably make a list a mile long within last 5 years.The best in state player I can think of during that time is probably Erik Gordon. Let's hope Tiny Richardson and Clear can stop this bleeding.
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sorry, corey miller isn't from tennessee. He's underachieved so much I got him confused.
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Wilks has not underachieved, he was just overrated to begin with. Too bad because he's a good kid....he should have had DuhRick's talent.
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Apr 1 2012, 01:07 AM
Wilks has not underachieved, he was just overrated to begin with. Too bad because he's a good kid....he should have had DuhRick's talent.
That's kind of my question. Are we signing overrated kids or are we just not developing them. It has to be one of the 2.
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You'd have to ask Fulllllllllllllmer and Cutcliffe that question. Kiffin and Dooley's staffs knew he wasn't that great. If he was, he'd be on the field.
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Apr 1 2012, 10:36 AM
Zippy
Apr 1 2012, 01:07 AM
Wilks has not underachieved, he was just overrated to begin with. Too bad because he's a good kid....he should have had DuhRick's talent.
That's kind of my question. Are we signing overrated kids or are we just not developing them. It has to be one of the 2.
A bit of both, really. More of a failure to develop them under Fulmer, at least on offense (we did a good job of developing defensive players when Fulmer was here...our offensive coaching was just lousy).

Since Fulmer left, though, we've done a pretty good job of developing lesser talents. To a certain degree we've signed some overrated players since Fulmer's departure, but not nearly as many. Most of those came from Kiffin's first class though (he signed several). We are always going to have that problem though, we dont have as much local talent as other schools so we have to reach a bit on some out of state kids that have issues (grades, arrests, attitude...talent, etc) to the point where the local teams dont really want them.

Dooley's been pretty spot-on in his talent evaluations, though. Relatively speaking. Everyone misses and so does Dooley, but not nearly as much as we have done in the past.
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Since Fulmer left, though
we've done a pretty good job of developing lesser talents. [/quote
I thought some of that was happening in Kiffins year. Most players on the team seemed better than when Fulmer had them, other than Eric Berry, which Chavis did a much better job than Monte of putting Berry in position to make plays.Other than EB you had all other players on defense playing better and Dan Williams developed into an NFL player. The OL was constructed with 2 walk ons, and Chris Scott become an NFL draft pick, which he wasn't close to that under Fulmer. Our receivers and rb's stayed about the same, but the most dramatic improvement was to J. Crompton. Since then, I have not seen players improve. Now Dooley was in a tougher situation than Kiffin because by the time he got there it was all freshmen and sophmores. None of the juniors and seniors still remaining even improved under Kiffin. Still, player development, is one of my biggest concerns with this coach and all questions will be answered in a few months from now. Of course I don't even expect dramatic improvement from the DL and secondary because you can't go from being that bad to good, but I do at all other positions, because the other positions have potential.
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My brothers(who are close with Watson Brown and a couple other coaches on the Tennessee Tech star) told me that Watson Brown told some people that allowing Da'Rick Rogers onto his team was the biggest mistake that he ever made in all of his years of coaching.

During his final game at Tech, Da'Rick took his pads and uniform off on the sidelines because he was noir happy and was not getting his way. He was poison to the locker room.
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