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| Topic Started: Feb 6 2012, 09:09 AM (104 Views) | |
| *TennesseeTuxedo | Feb 6 2012, 09:09 AM Post #1 |
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AYATOLLAH: KILL ALL JEWS, ANNIHILATE ISRAE How do you feel about this? Do you support Israel's right to protect themselves and possible US involvement? Do you support the US taking any kind of action to help Israel prevent Iran's nuclear ambitions? |
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| Student Radical | Feb 6 2012, 01:02 PM Post #2 |
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For a different view than we normally hear, try www.debka.com. It is an Isreali website |
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| *Zippy | Feb 6 2012, 01:06 PM Post #3 |
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Take anything and everything on debka with a gigantic serving of salt. I'm not that big of an advocate of bombing Iran, not at this point anyway. 5 or 6 years ago maybe, but the truth is the American public doesnt have the stomach to do what is necessary, and I'd probably rather do nothing than yet another half (or 1/4) measure. |
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| *TennesseeTuxedo | Feb 6 2012, 01:28 PM Post #4 |
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Zip is right on most everything on this. Debka can be so right about one thing and absolutely wrong on 100 other matters. Our nation is not ready for what the affects of a fight with iran will entail. You can expect unbelievable gas prices, because we depend on foreign oil(need to Drill! Baby Drill!!). There will be a lot of countries pissed off as a result, The Cold War with Russia will be recreated, etc... |
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| *Zippy | Feb 6 2012, 02:29 PM Post #5 |
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Our country wasnt even ready for the fallout from IRAQ, of all places, and Iraq when we invaded was a mere shadow of it's former military self. In comparison to the scope of war with Iran, Iraq was a certified cakewalk. Frankly at this point, I'm a hawk in theory but pretty much a dove in practice.... foreign intervention/war has become politicized to the point where it's not really possible to win one today, because the population are all wimps (which I know is a bad choice of words, but you get what I mean). |
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| gallavol | Feb 6 2012, 05:50 PM Post #6 |
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The US has been supplying Israel with Intel from drones for years. Iran knows this and is trying to stir up support for an attack on Israel among it's neighbors. China and Russia block every vote in the UN Security Council that the US and Israel put forward to have UN policing authority over Iran's nucs. The best policy for the west to pursue is regime change in Iran, but Israel will not allow the Iranians to develop a nuclear weapon without an attack on those facilities first. If a war comes the US will back Israel 100% by keeping China and Russia out of it. That is the real danger world wide. |
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| Shakearag | Feb 6 2012, 06:01 PM Post #7 |
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Iran is no threat to us, therefore let Israel fend for themselves. What are we everyones big brother. Pakistan, India, and Israel have the nuke so what is the big deal of adding one more. Israel with encouragement from the U.S. will end up bombing their nuclear sites and the United States will offer up logistics, war material, intelligence, and other assorted goodies. But I ask Israel is it worth the cost of treasure and casualties to start another war in the Middle East? Iran is not going to screw around with the U.S. because we could vaporize the entire country in 6 hours if we were so inclined. Israel got the nuke illegally and what did we do about that????? Maybe we turned our head and smiled............... and one wonders why we are so hated around the world. |
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| *TennesseeTuxedo | Feb 22 2012, 10:31 PM Post #8 |
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Donald Trump told Greta Van Susterun that believes that Obama will be so down in the polls that he will "wag the dog" and attack Iran before the election. |
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| gallavol | Feb 23 2012, 11:34 AM Post #9 |
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Donald Trump??  That international jeennuuss.  But seriously, a war with Iran is the worst possible outcome for all parties involved. An attack on Iran builds sympathy for them in the eyes of all Muslim countries, and falls right into the terrorist plans. We further their cause by attacking them not ours. The best option is to begin talks with the Iranians between NATO and Israel to tamp down the rhetoric and convince Iran to allow IAEA inspectors to examine the Iranian nuclear facilities (we know where the underground sites are) and in exchange we will lift scansion's on their exports and imports. We have intelligence on the ground in Iran and so does Israel, we know where the sites are, if they allow inspectors in to see what is what, that would be an act of good faith that we could reciprocate on and start to build at least an uneasy peace in that region. It's the best course for everybody, Iran knows this, Israel knows this and we know this. Lets just hope we can get it together before all the saber rattling causes someone to draw their sword. |
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| *TennesseeTuxedo | Feb 23 2012, 12:20 PM Post #10 |
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If truth be known, most Muslim countries want this attack carried out. Saudi Arabia, most notedly, fears Iran and their Wahabbist tentacles. |
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| *Zippy | Feb 23 2012, 12:44 PM Post #11 |
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Minor correction: most Muslim GOVERNMENTS in the mideast want this attack carried out. The muslim governments outside the mideast probably dont care, and the muslim populations even in the mideast dont share their government's opinion. Largely because these same governments use the Israel boogeyman to keep them in check. Also: wahhabism is a Sunni muslim extremist problem, not Shiite. Same coin, but different sides of it...basically similar to the relationship between protestants and catholics in Christianity, but worse because you are talking about Muslims and not Christians (and Muslims are just crazier). Iran's theocrats are shiite extremists, not Sunni Wahhabist. Now as far as the US is concerned, they both see eachother as Dar al-Islam when alligned against their common enemy (the US and/or the west in general). But if the US (and/or western civilization in general) was removed from the equation, each would likely see the other as Dar al-Harib and end up at war amongst themselves. Saudi Arabia's concerns over Iran ... to be honest... are more to do with the fact that Iranians are Persians, not Arabs. It's more racism than religion based. Arabs have a fairly long history ...much more historical than recent, obviously.... of being oppressed under the thumb of Persians, and they are still touchy about it. |
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| *TennesseeTuxedo | Mar 6 2012, 07:03 PM Post #12 |
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US, Israel gap on Iran widens after Obama-Netanyahu talks I watched Netanyahu's speech last night. it was a very good, common sense speech. I support Israel 100%. The word is leaking that, despite media reports that Obama is backing Israel, the talks between Obama and Netanyahu have gotten really ugly. Obama has reportedly demanded Israel make some huge concessions that endanger Israel. Netanyahu reportedly has walked away from the table and will not discuss this anymore with Obama.  |
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| Hermitagevol | Mar 7 2012, 08:13 AM Post #13 |
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Our laser guided bombs have changed the face of war forever. We can no longer carpet bomb cities off the face of the earth. Ask the survivors of Tokyo how they feel about incendiary bombs. War is far too "civilized" now. If a soldier shoots someone, he might be charged for murder!!! |
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