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| Do we see the Wildcat vs USCe? | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Oct 28 2009, 07:08 PM (551 Views) | |
| VolDave | Oct 28 2009, 07:08 PM Post #1 |
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I keep thinking back to that 42 yard run by NuKeese and with a healthy Gerald Jones and a healthy NuKeese, I really think that this game is one where we could see some huge gains out of the Wildcat. SC ranks 9th in the conference vs the run so we need to pound the rock. |
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| *TennesseeTuxedo | Oct 28 2009, 07:10 PM Post #2 |
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The one play where Nu'Kese lined up at QB, was a trick play and not the wildcat. JC was not even on the field. Nu'Kese ran a keeper. It will be interesting to see Nu'Kese in there along with Oku running it. Both guys have the ability to hit the open field. |
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| AtlantaVol | Oct 28 2009, 07:28 PM Post #3 |
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Wildcat should have been part of the package from the UCLA game on. When you have the TB's and the midgets with speed (Nukesse, Teague, Oku) along with the WWB play until UGA, then I have no idea why the Wildcat wasn't run for many plays a game. |
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| Shakearag | Oct 28 2009, 07:43 PM Post #4 |
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Perhaps Kiffin had his hands full instituting his offensive system to the team without adding even more plays. Lets not overload our guys when repetition is more important than running a few plays out of the wildcat formation. |
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| Hermitagevol | Oct 28 2009, 07:49 PM Post #5 |
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The wildcat style of offense is considered a joke to most NFL type of coaches. Do you think that is what Kiffin and company really want to run? Did you see what Monte did against at Alabama? |
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| Shakearag | Oct 28 2009, 07:54 PM Post #6 |
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Good point, the option will never be widespread in the NFL due to the speed of the defense and the fragility of the quarterbacks. These quarterbacks that run the spread option in college are not helping their NFL chances one iota. |
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| IndianVol | Oct 28 2009, 08:42 PM Post #7 |
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Bryce Brown has reportedly been running it in practice. I can see us running it some, Mark Ingram ran it with a lot of success vs SC, they had no answer. |
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| IndianVol | Oct 28 2009, 08:44 PM Post #8 |
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Disagree. It's a good change of pace to run once in a while, because it adds an extra blocker. Miami runs it with a lot of success, and more and more NFL teams have started running it. It is effective when you run about 8-10 snaps of wildcat. Monte did adjust to it - but to do it he basically had 10 guys at the LOS, Bama just did not trust Ingram to throw the ball. |
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| *TennesseeTuxedo | Oct 28 2009, 08:56 PM Post #9 |
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Miami is the only NFL team that uses it with any regularity or even success. You defend it with 9-10 guys. You take away all possible running gaps. Think about this.......The RB is going to get his clock cleaned if he tries to throw the ball. How many teams are going to expose their top RB to season ending injury in order to get a freak offense pass off? Not many. |
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| IndianVol | Oct 28 2009, 09:04 PM Post #10 |
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I have yet to see Ronnie Brown throw it, he may have done so. However, Miami makes it work cause they are committed to it. They run the wildcat, successfully, about 30% of their plays. Other teams have started to use it in the NFL, and it's a trend you will see more and more. The wildcat works, and it's not a gimmick offense, it's basically addition of a blocker, and then let the RB do his thing. It makes the defense have to prepare for one more thing. You know....Tebow would be a good wildcat RB in the NFL. Edited by IndianVol, Oct 28 2009, 09:05 PM.
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| *TennesseeTuxedo | Oct 28 2009, 09:09 PM Post #11 |
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My opinion and the opinions of most NFL people is that is is a gimmick offense. You won't see many other teams use it. Miami has used it because they have not been able to throw the ball. In fact Titans GM Mike Reifeldt said that it was discussed by other NFL GMs and coaches at meetings over the summer and most teams saw it as a gimmick and that outside of the Dolphins, nobody is gaining significant yardage running it. |
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| IndianVol | Oct 28 2009, 09:21 PM Post #12 |
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Gruden doesn't think it is. I don't think more and more NFL teams would use it if they thought it was gimmicky. What is gimmicky anyway, and who cares if it is, if it works, and it has shown to work, both at the college and NFL level - but you can't just run it 2 times a game, it would need to be a regular part of your offense and you'd have to run it a signigficant portion of the time to be effective. Most NFL teams will not likely commit to it that much, and thus it would not be effective. Edited by IndianVol, Oct 28 2009, 09:22 PM.
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| *TennesseeTuxedo | Oct 28 2009, 09:28 PM Post #13 |
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Last I saw, Gruden was not coaching in the NFL. His offenses have never been stellar considering he is said to be an offensive minded coach. Only one team is committed to using the offense. Unless you are not committed to using it, you will only be farting around with it and not very good at it. Miami has t because their passing attack is not good and they struggle to run the ball out of their base set offense. Teams that struggle running the ball may use it or teams out f the playoff chase may use it. You have to have a decent offensive line in order to use it in the first place. Miami struggles to run the ball out of their base offense and use the single wing (the real name of the offense) in place of their power running game and it takes away from effectiveness of play action when you try to run it. |
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| *TennesseeTuxedo | Oct 28 2009, 09:45 PM Post #14 |
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I'll add that if you are successful in running the ball out of your base offense, why would you screw around with the single wing? You take practice time away from other areas that you want to excel in and you take away a good portion of your play action if it is the only way you can run the ball effectively. Gadget plays are merely in pace to offset an aggressive over-pursuing defense. They normally won't work well if the defense is playing straight up and not over-pursuing. If we face an over-pursuing SC defense, maybe we stick it in to take advantage of it- if we are having trouble running the ball out of our base set. |
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| IndianVol | Oct 28 2009, 10:19 PM Post #15 |
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That's what I am saying - you have to commit to it, it is not a gadget play, it's got to be a part of your offense to work. Gruden may not be coaching now, but he's an excellent football mind. I do think it has even more place in college. However, again....we can't really be successful running it like the Etic Locke package. We'd need to run it for a couple of drives at least, much like what Bama did against them to put them away the other day. I doubt we run it that much though, to be honest. We may see BB run it a couple of times, but I don't see Kiffin running it that much, not even as much as Bama runs it. |
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