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| Think That Urbie Is Looking Forward To Facing A Monte Kiffin defense Without Tebow? | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Sep 21 2009, 09:20 AM (830 Views) | |
| *TennesseeTuxedo | Sep 21 2009, 09:20 AM Post #1 |
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Anyone think that the excuse making Urban Meyer is looking forward to facing a Monte Kiffin-coached defense without Tim Tebow? I don't think so. MK's scheme gave Tebow fits and prevented Tebow from going over the top of the Tennessee defense. The Vols defense forced Florida to run Tebow more than they wanted to. Tebow came up big, but any other QB would not have rushed for 25 yards on the same number of carries and definitely would not have made the plays Tebow did in key situations. |
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| IndianVol | Sep 21 2009, 09:24 AM Post #2 |
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And we did it with little depth at DL and LB. Think of Monte's defense in 2010 and 2011, with the studs we have coming in. |
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| volchef | Sep 21 2009, 09:31 AM Post #3 |
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save the U.S. don't let your kid play soccer
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In a word NO. We stopped Tebow from being Tebow as well as anybody...no jump passes either! |
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| El Jeffe | Sep 21 2009, 09:33 AM Post #4 |
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That whining fuck better shut up or Kiffin will put 60 on him real, real soon. He knows he was out coached and still doesn't really know what Monte did to him. It was great to see the other sideline shell shocked for a change. Our staff just put on a coaching clinic for the rest of the country on how to stop the spread option. I give it two more years as a viable offense in the NCAA, less than that in the SEC. Urbie better get while the gettin' is good or his dream job will pass him by. I hope the SOB hangs around a while so we can listen to his crying ass as the Gators return to the bottom of the SEC under his watch. |
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| CCCP | Sep 21 2009, 02:51 PM Post #5 |
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UF rushed for 208 yards. They were 8 of 13 on third down conversions and 1 of 1 on fourth down. Take out Tebow's rushes, and UF's other rushers gained 132 yards on 19 carries (a 6.9 average). UF punted one time. Aside from buckling down in the Red Zone and really laying the wood to UF on several plays, what exactly did Monte do that was so damn awesome? Yes, holding UF to 23 was a good effort. But criminy, we held them to 10 in 2003, 16 in 2005 and 21 in 2006. The last two years were a fucking train wreck, but it's not like it's been that way for a decade. |
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| *TennesseeTuxedo | Sep 21 2009, 02:53 PM Post #6 |
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So we have CCCP who wants Phil Fulmer back as our coach. Who agrees with CCCP? |
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| *JollyVolly | Sep 21 2009, 02:57 PM Post #7 |
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BT, the non-Tebow rushing yardage was the result of the same Tebow option. Once Tebow is no long in the picture and they have to play a quarterback that can't stand up to the ass beating tebow gets every game....it's a whole different story. We held FL to close to 300 yards...I"ll take that any day. Our offense, particularly in the third quarter didn'th help things a bit with their 9 yards of offense. You don't mean to tell me that you weren't surprised that we weren't frog strangled Saturday...do you? And FWIW....two of the only people I know that were claiming we'd keep it close post right here....... |
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| IndianVol | Sep 21 2009, 02:58 PM Post #8 |
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What are you...serious? You just look at stats? Do you get a feel for a game by watching the D? Did you see the confusion on Tebow's face? Did you see us get 3 sacks? Did you see james get his head taken off? Did u see Berry's int? Did you see them get pretty much jack shit on their passing game? The Gators won the game cause they have an exceptional QB who can make plays with his legs. The rest was covered by Monte's D. What did we do? This was an offense that was tearing people apart last year, and this year. This was the #1 team in the country getting basically one of their lowest outputs. Oh yeah...Tebow himself said that we were the best defense he has faced, and will likely face all year. You think maybe he might know? Your post shows you have no f'in clue about defense...just spout stats. You can spout stats all day, but watch the game, watch the level of talent we played and frustrated all day. That scheme was textbook on how to slow down and frustrate the spread. Hell, they shut down the Gators in the 4th qtr totally. Not to mention how much the D was out there in time of possession. |
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| CCCP | Sep 21 2009, 03:09 PM Post #9 |
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As usual, it always has to be one extreme or another around here. Yes, I was encouraged. We were tough as nails. But if we were sooooooooo effective, why the fuck didn't we force them to punt? Forget the damn statistics. But when evaluating a defense, I do like to see how many times they forced the other team to punt. Is that being unreasonable?
Percy Harvin is gone, and Deonte Thompson didn't play. I'm sorry, but that shit matters.
The TOP could have been a little better . . . had we forced them to punt. Ya think? Edited by CCCP, Sep 21 2009, 03:15 PM.
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| *TennesseeTuxedo | Sep 21 2009, 03:09 PM Post #10 |
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BT, you have no clue about football. That is very obvious. |
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| CCCP | Sep 21 2009, 03:22 PM Post #11 |
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Of course. Because I believe we played "very good" but not quite "greatestfuckingdefensivejobinthehistoryoffootball." And because I believe Urban Meyer is thinking, "Damn, that unit was impressive" and not "Oh my God, what the fuck am I gonna do when Timmy leaves? I have to get out of here!!!! I'm going to Notre Dame!!!" I don't do extremes. Because extremes are wrong about 99.9992% of the time. Edited by CCCP, Sep 21 2009, 03:24 PM.
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| *JollyVolly | Sep 21 2009, 03:27 PM Post #12 |
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Here's the Story BT...you glass half empty person...... Florida Possessions Started our 45 / Ended our 37 FG Started Fl 29 / Ended TD Started Fl 20 / Intercepted Started Fl 37 / Ended our 29 FG Started Fl 35 / Ended our 35 FG Startet Fl 31 / Ended TD Started Fl 44 / Fumble Started Fl 20 / Punt Starte FL 26 / End of Game So.....we actually stopped them 6 of the 8 times they had the ball. I'm not counting the ninth time for obviously reason. The times we stopped them and they scored FG's they managed a total of 58 yards of offense. I guess I'm willing to keep Kiffin and his guys a couple more games...... EDIT...you know something else.....Florida only forced our crappy offense to punt three times.....I'm not so sure that counting the number of punts is a great way of evaluating anything after learning this........ Edited by JollyVolly, Sep 21 2009, 03:37 PM.
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| humbletx | Sep 21 2009, 04:15 PM Post #13 |
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Talking with a kid who has some real time experience playing college football at its highest level in the 21st century - and seeing some mighty fine defensively coached teams - made a couple comments. #1 - it never felt like Florida was in a panic or that an upset was in the making. Looked like "first game jitters" #2 - hard hitting, sound players on both sides of the ball (Strong and Kiffin) #3 - having played with some guys who are now in the NFL - defensive backs - Berry is as good as them. #4 - Florida needs their WR's to step it up.. #5 - no Reggie Bush, L. White or Adrian Peterson in either backfield #6 - Tim Tebow is a big f*cker |
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| CCCP | Sep 21 2009, 04:21 PM Post #14 |
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Well, that is the "glass half-full" way of looking at it, and I concede I am the "glass half-empty" person. And a "glass-half empty" person won't concede a field goal as a "stop." UF was frustrated. Because FGs are frustrating. Three-and-outs are demoralizing. That's what I want to see.
And that post summarizes perfectly the extreme mentality on boards like this. You add 1 + 1 and get 11. Not. Even. Fucking. Close. I've wanted Fulmer gone since 2002. I'm just not going to make horseshit posts like "Tennessee will win the 2011 SEC title!" We will compete for the SEC in 2011. That's all. Edited by CCCP, Sep 21 2009, 04:27 PM.
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| El Jeffe | Sep 21 2009, 04:35 PM Post #15 |
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See, even sleeping with a damned commie rots your brain. To have watched that game and not understood what you were seeing is just sad. BTW, is that commie you are sleeping with humbletx? |
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