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Obama style health care; Outright SCARY
Topic Started: Mar 1 2010, 04:33 PM (53 Views)
Beancounter

An American sent me this link. Watch it, and send to EVERY American you know.
This sounds like the totalitarian state to me. Wake up America!

http://www.youtube.com/user/TBA4Freedom#p/a/u/1/Cd49b13V_EM
Edited by Beancounter, Mar 1 2010, 04:33 PM.
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Sounds very much like the British system, and they are not raging commies.
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Beancounter

Quote from Bruce: "Sounds very much like the British system, and they are not raging commies."

I knew you would find this perfectly OK. No common sense at all.
As for the British, they are also ready to accept sharia law.
Disgusting! Whatever happened to democracy?
Sharia law: When a woman is raped, she need FOUR MALE witnesses to prove it.
Lets face it Bruce, even you are not so stupid as to rape a woman in the presence of another guy, let alone FOUR!
On second thought, maybe I give you too much credit.
Bill Clinton got away with letting the "little head" have its way.

"A left wired brain (if any) can't think straight."
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There are things in that presentation that sound unacceptable to me, but that could be the way it was presented.
I am against extending health coverage to illegals. Most of it however, needs more clarification.

Does anyone know what the status of the health care bill is? Can States opt out?
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Unless a person has a very good knowledge of how the American healthcare system functions, they should not be passing judgement on those that do.
First of all, in the US, just like in Canada, Aliens recieve medical care through medicare. Just like beancounter did when he first came to Canada.
There are two sides to the arguement in the US, healthcare and health insurance. This neat little extreme right wing video does a good job of confusing the two, no surprize there.
In the US, seniors must enroll in Medicare and that means the government is going to do a thorough background on you, just like in Canada, and our country hasn't exploded because of it.
The only contensious part of healthcare reform in the US is the public option which gives Americans that do not have health insurance a cheaper option. The public option is similar to our healthcare and will provide health insurance for everyone. The public option is cheaper insurance but it will have to be paid for, just like ours.
They are trying to arrange a system of private and public healthcare and the private system is fighting it with an advertising blitz similar to this video in order to scare the American people into voting against what is in their own best interest.
The individual states, except Delaware do not provide healthcare insurance, the public option is a federal government option to provide health insurance.
Right now, Obama is prepared to use his majority to pass his healthcare reform into law which only requires a 51% majority and the Republicans are fighting that. Sound familiar.


Edited by Bruce, Mar 2 2010, 11:02 AM.
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>Unless a person has a very good knowledge of how the American healthcare system functions, they should not be passing judgement on those that do.
Spot on!

>First of all, in the US, just like in Canada, Aliens recieve medical care through medicare. Just like beancounter did when he first came to Canada.
What I am against, is the illegal aliens being entitled to free health care. The moment an 'illegal' is identified (wherever, including a hospital), they should be deported.

I'm still not clear on whether States can refuse to be a part of the proposed Bill. :shrug:
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This is somewhat related to the original article.

The Patriot Act sure sounds scary!

Link: Posted Image Judge Napolitano
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Mar 2 2010, 01:34 PM
This is somewhat related to the original article.

The Patriot Act sure sounds scary!

Link: Posted Image Judge Napolitano
Yes, the patriot act is very scarey.

The US Constitution does not guarantee you an education either, yet he doesn't complain about that or want to shut down schools and universities. The US government provides healthcare for veterans and soldiers, he didn't say anything about stopping that either. As a matter of fact, the US Government provides senators with a government healthcare plan, I wonder why he didn't mention that, unless he is on that plan.

I don't think indidvidual states can opt out of this new plan, because there is a law in the US that requires a hospital to treat you if you are sick or injured. The hospital can bill you for that service, but they cannot refuse you treatment. If you have federal government insurance, I don't see how a hospital could refuse you..

Edited by Bruce, Mar 2 2010, 06:16 PM.
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Quote from Bruce: "Aliens receive medical care through medicare. Just like beancounter did when he first came to Canada."

Sorry Bruce, you may not be old enough to remember this, but in the fifties there was NO MEDICARE in Canada of any kind! I don't remember, it is half a century ago, but we either had insurance that we paid for, or we paid for treatments ourselves. I am VERY sure that there was NO taxpayer funded plan in place.

As for personal remark, you have that silly (lefty) habit of making statements that are totally off the wall. 100% opinion and imagination, NO FACTS.
Here you state that I benefited from NON EXISTENT health care. In another post you stated that at our house "are parties where minors consume booze."

Where do you get that nonsense? What makes you think that in our house, (two seniors in their seventies!) we have parties? With minors?
The only humans under 20 that come in to our home are our own grand-kids.
Do you really believe we make them drink alcohol?
How stupid can you get.

Further proof that: "A left wired brain can not think straight."
I feel sorry for you. You haven't got a clue. Born without knowledge, and did not learn anything since. Sad. Sad. Sad.
Ignorance is bliss.


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