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| Chretien gets Order of Merit; What is the world coming to. | |
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| Topic Started: Oct 21 2009, 03:55 AM (72 Views) | |
| Beancounter | Oct 21 2009, 03:55 AM Post #1 |
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Were you as surprised as I was when I heard that Jean Chretien received the Order of Merit from H.M. the Queen? I can't remember ANYTHING he did to deserve that. He did NOT scrap the GST as he promised. "Adscam" DID take place when he was PM. Ever heard: "The buck stops here?" Oh, I forgot, we have the Loonie. How fitting. But then: Obama got the Nobel Peace Prize, and Henry Morgentaler the Order of Canada. Looks like they are really scraping the bottom of the barrel! What can you expect in a country where about 15% of the MP's (The Bloc) are traitors on the public payroll? This place is getting insane. "Stop the world I want to get off." |
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| jabs | Oct 21 2009, 09:17 AM Post #2 |
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 An Honour for ALL Canadians: M. Cretien has joined a very select group of individuals to receive this honour from HM ER II  Let me educate you just a wee bit: Order of Merit From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia This article is about the Commonwealth realms order. For similarly-named orders, see Order of Merit (disambiguation). Order of Merit Awarded by the sovereign of the Commonwealth realms Type Order Motto FOR MERIT Eligibility All living citizens of the Commonwealth realms Awarded for At the monarch's pleasure Status Currently constituted Sovereign Elizabeth II Grades (w/ post-nominals) Member (OM) Statistics Established 1902 Precedence Next (higher) Dependent on state Next (lower) Dependent on state Ribbon of the Order of Merit The Order of Merit (French: Ordre du Mérite)[n 1] is an order recognizing distinguished service in the armed forces, science, art, literature, or for the promotion of culture. Established in 1902 by King Edward VII, admission into the organization remains the personal gift of the order's Sovereign, the reigning monarch of the Commonwealth realms, and it is limited to 24 living recipients at one time from these countries, plus a limited number of honorary members.[1] While all members receive the ability to use the post-nominal letters OM and a medallion for wear,[2] the Order of Merit's precedence amongst other honours differs between Commonwealth realms. History The first mention of a possible Order of Merit was made following the Battle of Trafalgar in 1805, in correspondence between First Lord of the Admiralty The Lord Barham and William Pitt, though nothing eventuated from the idea.[3] Later, it was thought by Queen Victoria, her courtiers, and politicians alike,[4] that a new order, based on the Prussian order Pour le Mérite, would make up for the insufficient recognition offered by the established honours system to achievement outside of public service, in realms such as art, music, literature, industry, and science.[3] Victoria's husband, Albert, Prince Consort, took an interest in the matter, and it was recorded in his diary that he met on 16 January 1844 with Robert Peel to discuss the "idea of institution of a civil Order of Merit," and three days later conferred with the Queen on the subject.[5] The concept did not wither, and on 5 January 1888 British Prime Minister The Marquess of Salisbury, submitted to the Queen a draft constitution for an Order of Merit in Science and Art, consisting of one grade split into two branches of knighthood: the Order of Scientific Merit – for Knights of Merit in Science, with the post-nominal letters KMS – and the Order of Artistic Merit – for Knights of Merit in Art, with the post-nominal letters KMA. But The Lord Leighton, President of the Royal Academy, advised against the new order, primarily because of its selection process.[6] King Edward VII, founder of the Order of Merit.It was Victoria's son, Edward VII, who eventually founded the Order of Merit on 26 June 1902 – the date for which his coronation had been originally planned[7] – as a means to acknowledge "exceptionally meritorious service in Our Navy and Our Army, or who may have rendered exceptionally meritorious service towards the advancement of Art, Literature and Science";[8] all modern aspects of the order were established under his direction, including the division for military figures.[2] From the outset, prime ministers attempted to propose candidates or lobbied to influence the monarch's decision on appointments, but the Royal Household adamantly guarded information about potential names.[2] After 1931, when the Commonwealth of Nations came into being and the former Dominions of the British Empire became independent states, equal in status to the UK,[9][10] the Order of Merit remained an honour open to all the King's realms; thus, as with the monarch who conferred it, the order ceased to be purely British.[1][11] From its inception, the order has been open to women, Florence Nightingale being the first woman to receive the honour, in 1907. Several individuals have refused admission into the Order of Merit, such as Rudyard Kipling, Alfred Edward Housman, and George Bernard Shaw. To date, Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, remains the youngest person ever inducted into the Order of Merit, having done so in 1968, at the age of 47.[2] Eligibility and appointment All citizens of the Commonwealth realms are eligible for appointment to the Order of Merit. There may be, however, only 24 living individuals in the organization at any given time, not including honorary appointees, and new members are personally selected by the reigning monarch of the 16 realms, presently Queen Elizabeth II, with the assistance of her private secretaries;[2] the order has thus been described as "quite possibly, the most prestigious honour one can receive on planet Earth."[12] Within the limited membership is a designated military division, with its own unique insignia; though it has not been abolished, it is currently unpopulated, The Earl Mountbatten of Burma having been the last person so honoured.[2] Honorary members form another group, to which there is no numerical limit, though such appointments are rare; individuals from countries in the Commonwealth of Nations that are not headed by Elizabeth II are still considered foreigners, and thus are granted only honorary admissions, such as Nelson Mandela (South Africa) and Mother Teresa (India).[1] Upon admission into the Order of Merit, members are entitled to use the post-nominal letters OM, and are gifted the medallion of the organization, which consists of a golden crown from which is suspended a red enamelled cross. itself centred by a disk of blue enamel, surrounded by a gold laurel wreath, and bearing in gold lettering the words FOR MERIT;[13] the insignia for the military grouping is distinguished by a pair of crossed swords behind the central medallion. The ribbon of the Order of Merit is divided into two stripes of red and blue; men may wear their badges on a neck ribbon, while women carry theirs on a ribbon bow pinned to the left chest, and aides-de-camp may wear the insignia on their aiguillettes.[13] Current members Sovereign: Queen Elizabeth II Members (122)[n 2] / The Duke of Edinburgh, Royal Consort, appointed 10 June 1968[14] (145) The Reverend William Owen Chadwick, theological historian, appointed 11 November 1983[14] (146) Sir Andrew Fielding Huxley, physiologist, Nobel Laureate, and former President of the Royal Society, appointed 11 November 1983[14] (151) Frederick Sanger, biochemist and double Nobel Laureate, appointed 11 February 1986[14] (158) The Lady Thatcher, former British Prime Minister, appointed 7 December 1990[14] (159) Dame Joan Alston Sutherland, coloratura soprano, appointed 27 November 1991[14] (162) Sir Michael Francis Atiyah, mathematician, Fields medalist, Abel Laureate, and President of the Royal Society, appointed 17 November 1992[14] (163) / Lucian Michael Freud, portraitist, appointed 6 December 1993[14] (166) / Sir Aaron Klug, biophysicist, Nobel Laureate, and former President of the Royal Society, appointed 23 October 1995[14] (169) The Lord Foster of Thames Bank, architect and Pritzker Laureate, appointed 25 November 1997[14] (173) Sir James Whyte Black, pharmacologist and Nobel Laureate, appointed 9 May 2000[14] (174) Sir Anthony Alfred Caro, sculptor, appointed 9 May 2000[14] (175) Sir Roger Penrose, mathematical physicist, appointed 9 May 2000[14] (176) / Sir Tom Stoppard, playwright, appointed 9 May 2000[14] (177) The Prince of Wales, heir to the throne and conservationist, appointed 27 June 2002[14] (178) The Lord May of Oxford, ecologist and former President of the Royal Society, appointed 28 October 2002[14] (179) The Lord Rothschild, philanthropist, appointed 28 October 2002[14] (180) Sir David Frederick Attenborough, Broadcaster, appointed 10 June 2005[14] (181) The Lady Boothroyd, first female Speaker of the British House of Commons, appointed 10 June 2005[14] (182) Sir Michael Eliot Howard, military historian, appointed 10 June 2005[14] (183) The Lord Eames, Anglican Primate of All Ireland and Archbishop of Armagh, appointed 13 June 2007[14] (184) Sir Timothy John Berners-Lee, inventor of the World Wide Web and Director of the World Wide Web Consortium, appointed 13 June 2007[14] (185) The Lord Rees of Ludlow, Astronomer Royal and President of the Royal Society, appointed 13 June 2007[14] (186) Joseph Jacques Jean Chrétien, former Canadian Prime Minister, appointed 13 July 2009[15
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| Bruce | Oct 21 2009, 07:11 PM Post #3 |
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He served 41 years in public office, what have you ever done. |
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| Sweets | Oct 21 2009, 07:36 PM Post #4 |
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Oh yes I remember him well Order of Merit? Aye er esput blip fart rattle spit Oh Yes! He called off the Mounties on Mulldoon of the Airbus Caper because he and his @#**ing Cabinet were involved and they gave Mulldoon a Million to keep quiet. I wouldn't give Crapchin the @#**en daylight -- His biggest accomplishment was building a back road to his cottage --- He was trudeau's yes man -- him and his quebec heir loitenants robbed the @#**en country and got away with it --have ya all forgotten ---Ill scrap the GZZZZZZT by gar side of the mouth drooling. sold his daughter to slavery. aye er eh? Feckin Bronffies. I hated the Ba$tird for not letting the seppies go == BI BI ism Must have cost us about ten trillion by now -- aye er eh? Edited by Sweets, Oct 21 2009, 07:44 PM.
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| Beancounter | Oct 21 2009, 10:38 PM Post #5 |
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Bruce: You ask: "What have I ever done?" I don’t owe you or anybody any explanation, but since you asked: “I’ll show you mine, if you show me yours.” As most of you know my wife and I came to Canada in 1955 with not much more than a suitcase. I always managed to make a decent living, and in 1976 started our own business, which is still operating, with hundreds of satisfied clients. Many of them have been with us for 20 and even 30 years, and still are. We don’t owe anything to anybody. My wife and I raised 2 daughters (one deceased) and 2 sons; two of them are university grads, and all are solid citizens, in upper management, and respected members of their community. (Which is more than Chretien can say, although I will immediately add that parents can not always prevent their offspring from making wrong choices: we have been very blessed in that respect). In contrast to lefties who are very generous with OTHER people’s money, we support many worthy causes, and I am (unpaid) treasurer of three organizations. We love Canada, and have traveled in all 10 provinces, not to mention more than half of the 50 states to the South of us. Having said that, we are “outta here” until early November. Looking forward to YOUR story Bruce! (I am not holding my breath). |
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| Beancounter | Oct 21 2009, 10:41 PM Post #6 |
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jabs: As I said, what is Chretien doing in that exclusive company? He sticks out like a sore thumb. I was SOOOO pleased when he finally packed it in on Dec 12 '03, that I put out the flag! Good riddance. |
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| Bruce | Oct 21 2009, 11:09 PM Post #7 |
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My story... I was born in Canada....... |
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| Beancounter | Oct 22 2009, 08:17 AM Post #8 |
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Yeah, that about sums it up eh? And you can't even claim credit for that, that goes to your Mom and Dad! |
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| xray | Oct 22 2009, 09:46 AM Post #9 |
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Geez Sweets..... I agree with you. The Cret  .Beans, I hung out the flag when the Fibs of the day were defeated.  The jury is still out on Harper's bunch. 
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| ReallyOrnery | Oct 23 2009, 01:50 AM Post #10 |
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I don't know what you Canadians are complaining about; at least your cretin didn't receive the Nobel Peace Prize for doing nothing but flapping its lips in the wind; if you catch my drift. RO |
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