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22/410
Topic Started: Jul 5 2009, 06:24 PM (222 Views)
Revs
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Who else likes the flexibility of a little 22/410 combo rifle? Great to take camping and most will take down small enough to fit in a pack. Get the flexibility of a .22 for squirrels and other small game and a .410 for small game birds. The one I have is an old Stevens model 22-410. It must be over 50 years old and still shoots like a dream. Had the local smith go through it recently and now it needs to be sighted in again.
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I would love one for my car kit.
Was it my imagination, or did i once see a single shot 12 gauge that mounted under the AR15 barrel like an M203 granade launcher.
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Ciener Ultimate was a modified Remington 870 that attached to the bayonet lug of a M-16. Not a single shot, but a pump. Trying to find pics, but no luck. Article on wikipedia about it.

Have seen pics of a 12 gauge with a .223 over it. Not sure you can still find them anymore. Same with a 20 ga and .223. Break action guns, but still would be very useful in a survival situation.
Edited by Revs, Jul 6 2009, 09:17 AM.
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Revs
Jul 5 2009, 06:24 PM
Who else likes the flexibility of a little 22/410 combo rifle? Great to take camping and most will take down small enough to fit in a pack. Get the flexibility of a .22 for squirrels and other small game and a .410 for small game birds. The one I have is an old Stevens model 22-410. It must be over 50 years old and still shoots like a dream. Had the local smith go through it recently and now it needs to be sighted in again.
This is mine. Probably 50 years old too. It is a Bauer Firearms.

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Thats for your bug out bag. We wanna see the .577 nitro over 8 gauge you keep in your trunk.
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I used to own a 22mag/20ga3"mag Savage. that was a decent combo-gun as either barrel could take down a deer or even a pig, mabey. I used the heck outa that gun for years on grouse and turkey,,,back when it was legal. Would I have a 410? no. Too small a load. I would rather have a 10-22 with a good trigger and scope. Dependaing on the ammo I could drop a deer, with sub sonic rounds I could drop a squirrel or bird or rabbit and no-one would hear a report. Where I live rodents are not hunted with shotguns, they are too wary. I'll take a quality 22 rifle.
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I have a pump .22 that I like to shoot when I have time. Have owned 10/22s over the years, but it seems something comes up and I need to part with them for one reason or another. The little pump has been with me for almost 20 years now. I like the 10/22 though. Thinking of getting another one in the near future. Not a lot of rodents close to me. Unless you count starlings. I take them with a .22 air rifle. Boss refuses to let us use anything bigger.
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If you have a favorite, accurate, 22LR then that is the one to grab when headed into the woods.
I keep mentioning the 10-22 because it is the only 22LR you can do bolt-on upgrades from stocks to barrels with (buy a used rifle and rebuild it into a match grade 22LR or a backpacker's rifle). I do not think the 10-22 is the best rifle ever, it has simply become the volkswagen of 22s. The perfect example of Trickle-Down Capitalism; a product engineered so that anyone who can turn a wrench could invent an upgrade and then build a business on that simple improvement, you gotta love that.
If we are talking long term food gathering, shooting small birds like Starlings with any firearm, for food, is a loosing proposition, there just aint enough meat on a single bird. Spread nylon nets across fly zones to snare small birds.
As for the 22/shotgun, if the rifle portion is not extremely accurate, like 1/2 inch at 200 feet, you may be better-off (in a wilderness situation) with a 20 or 12 ga single shot or a accurate 22LR rifle. Certainly the 12ga would be a must in moose/bear country. As I previously said; in the lower 48 states an accutrate 22/20ga combogun is my choice for wilderness survival.
The combogun should survive as long as folks live in the back woods, even the 22/410 combo will, with great stalking, put a turkey or deer on the table, and that is the pourpose of this type firearm, to feed people.
I preffer the bigger 22/20 guage but if you turn a smart 12YO loose in the woods with a 22/410,,,within 2 months he may be draggin in the big bucks(deer). I suppose in the end it is all about the hunter and not the weapon used. That being said, only in modern times have hunters been overweight! Many decades ago I was presented with a singleshot 22LR worth about $3. I weighed about 63 pounds at the time and waited impatiently to become a gaint.
This was the start of my education as a hunter and a marksman. I lived in a desert, my rifle started-out in life as a cheap freeby give away to youngboys that sold enough newspapers to qualify. The accuracy was poor, I had to get close, and I only had one shot.
I learned to stalk(sorta) I learned patience and how to shoot, how to carry ammo in my mouth, spit a loaded round into an empty chamber and NEVER to bite down on rimfire ammo. I learned to observe nature and be part of it, revel in it and see God in the smallist thing and realise that was the biggist thing. When I was a child I could lay in a cactus patch and be part of God's creation, even when it hurt. Lookin back, remembering that hard sun and the smell of hot dust, catus, sand and an endless horizon, all in focus and waiting to be explored one inch at a time. And become the hunter
Edited by kenno, Aug 30 2009, 03:32 AM.
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