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UNP conference in Vladimirsk
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Freeman 20 Mar 2010, 03:29 PM Post #51
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OOC aight, I concede.

2% minimum? I guess it would be better for small nations who want the protection of the UNP..

Woah woah woah! 400 battleships!?!?! 100 sumbarines!?!!?!?!? Where the hell are you getting your numbers!?!?
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Nentsia 20 Mar 2010, 03:37 PM Post #52
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Liberation_Army_Navy#cite_note-xinhua.net-0

Not the most accurate source though.

Oops sorry, Checked it wrong.

Looked at the number below the submarines number. Should be 60 submarines.
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Freeman 20 Mar 2010, 03:42 PM Post #53
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OOC it doesn't say a thing about 400 battleships and 100 submarines!!!! They have 58 submarines, 26 destroyers, 2 carriers (in 2015), 52 frigates, 400 small craft, ~450 landing boats, and 31 anti-mine boats. They don't even have any battleships!

Sorry if I'm getting a bit pissed off here but seriously this is why I proposed the military accuracy act :P
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Nentsia 20 Mar 2010, 03:56 PM Post #54
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OOC

I define a battleship as a naval vessel with at least one gun on it.

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Total Combat Vessels Active ~633


says the site.

But it doesn't change the point. You don't need to spend that much on the military to make it ''realistic''. What we forget, production and salary costs are very low in China. So they can buy a lot more military material with $80 billion.

Same counts for Nentsia. Nentsia is not exactly first world, though it likes to present itself as if it is. You can buy a lot more for $1 in Nentsia, than in the US.

I think my armed forces can be maintained with $122.6 billion.

Military spending per nation in world (ranked)

1 US with $607 billion (1.3 million service)
2 China with $84 billion (3 million service)
3 France with $65 billion
4 UK with 65 billion
5 (Russia 58 billion (estimates)
6 Germany and Japan with 46 billion
7 Italy with 40 billion
8 Russia with 33 billion (estimates during Jeltsin period)
9 India with 30 billion

But your economy seems to run on a wareconomic system. I wonder how long your nation can maintain your army upkeep with 40% of your government spending. :P
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OOC ok, I didn't know we were going by that definition of "battleship", and I already conceded your point that you can spend that amount per soldier so leave it be.

And my economy is fine. If you think it violates RP rules then bring it up in the courts but otherwise leave us be in our militaristic-industrialist ways :)
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No it doesn't violate the rules in my opinion.

But I applied this definition also to my own navy. the 3?? ''battleships'' include every vessel with a gun mounted on it.
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OOC back to business

"How do the other delegates feel on how we should proceed with setting minimum military contributions?"
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"Brishton fully supports the 2% minimum, but maybe the amount of military you have should equal the minimum you have?" said Kyle
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OOC what?
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"My friends, there is conflict at the border of plot 36 and gebeta, I requesting a small taskforce to go in and secure the border while our Foreign Minster will try and solve this diplomatically" said Drake

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