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United Nations of Peacekeeping
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Asper Civitas 7 Jan 2010, 01:37 AM Post #31
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OOC:I believe I changed my point and yes I acknowledge the fact it is OOC but I also believe its almsot like a new catagory not OOC or IC.
Also I would like to revise the laws of war and involve the whole forum if possible, because they do affect every person on here.
Also you are acting almost as the "Dictator" of this alliance. ( from what I see)
Edited by Asper Civitas, 7 Jan 2010, 01:39 AM.
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Asper Civitas 7 Jan 2010, 01:43 AM Post #32
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OOC: Not to be a tattle-tale but wouldn't raising a special ops force to begin the liberation of Thisthatorother "technically" be illegitimately invading? Which is one of the sole purposes your accusing Korto?
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Germania 7 Jan 2010, 01:54 AM Post #33
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OOC: this is true, you have no alliance with that nation, so what why would you invade it? to save it? sounds kinda silly to me
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Nentsia 7 Jan 2010, 07:24 AM Post #34
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OOC:

I am not going to undertake any act of war if the members don't want me to. There will be a vote about this.

But I decided, that after the last wwII it is time for Renatia to have some IC laws of war, that can be broken....with consequences. In the real world, the league of Fasces wouldn't get away with what they did. The current situation in Renatia now is like the Nazi's won WWII.

Seriously concerned about the fact that the League refuses to respect sovereign decisions of other nations: Asper in the beginning by Deltoria, Vertadoria by the entire league, Zachtung and perhaps even more nations. So I thought, it is time for Renatia to condemn the constant violations of Laws of War by the League and unite in an alliance to protect ourselves from that imperialism. For as far as I know, every League member is currently using its army to gain more and more plots, taking uranium to build nukes, and acting as a whole to intimidate other nations.

Then expect, just like in the real world, a response. When you give many nations the same reason to be scared, they will eventually recognize you as their common enemy.

And the UNP is to protect all nations threatened by illegitimate war (according to the UN standards). Peace-enforcement, is a tool seldomly used by the UN, but the UNP is different.
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Germania 7 Jan 2010, 07:55 AM Post #35
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OOC in Renatia there are no such things as laws of war, there may be in your alliance but they do not apply to the world, if you wish to pass something like the Geneva Conventions, you have to do it with the whole world, not just in your alliance, and if you didn't it would be like the US passing a law saying you cant do something, and then applying it to the UK, so if you want laws of war you must call a summit
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kirrix 7 Jan 2010, 08:21 AM Post #36
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ooc: More like trying to enforce it in Iran. UK has largely been USA slightly abused and largely subservient wife for many years now.
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Drake 7 Jan 2010, 08:25 AM Post #37
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OOC: we like having the Americans on our side that way in afghan we are not alone out there.
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-DS- 7 Jan 2010, 02:04 PM Post #38
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OOC: we like having the Americans on our side that way in afghan we are not alone out there.
OOC: We being only some of the population I might add. I for one would much prefer the UK to be strong allies with France, Germany and the rest of Europe over the USA, but we digress.

Asper, NIG and whoever else, you're mixing OOC and IC actions again. The UNP is an IC organisation with IC aims. It is not directed specifically at your OOC selves, but at the acts that your IC nations have committed. They are fully within their rights to create such an organisation, as you are to be part of the League.

We would never be able to ICly agree on a Geneva Convention-like treaty for the simple reason that our nations are way too extreme and/or independent. This is an attempt at a world police force if you will and, like all police forces, there comes a time when they need to meet violence with even more violence. It is not your place to OOCly complain about this, as it holds no bearing on what happens ICly and only stands to make you look bad. You should be meeting their demands and threats with demands and threats of your own or, even, submitting to them.
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zachtung 7 Jan 2010, 02:59 PM Post #39
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OOC err,guys,isnt this getting a little out of hand...
i think this discussion could be done completely in IC
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Nentsia 7 Jan 2010, 03:58 PM Post #40
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Telegram to all UNP members

From Vladimir Federov,

Dear allies,

It has come to our attention that a cold war has emerged from our charges towards Germania. Inevitable ofcourse, if a nation uses war threats in every telegram that is not meant for a Fasces League member.

Now there are the following options:

* We hold on to our demands (retreat from occupied territories, trial Dack Korto), and use force if necessary...

* We hold on to our demands in a symbolical way, using diplomatic weapons to achieve our goals, but without going to war...

* We drop our charges, and only charge future warcrimes - and we try to improve our relationship with the Fascists...

* We break off all ties with the League of Fasces/Germania, by a trade embargo and refusing any further conversation with them until they are willing to negotiate about our demands...

We hope to receive your opinion on this crisis. If you have any suggestions, please add.
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