Verrazano Bridge Non-Disaster

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Verrazano Bridge Non-Disaster
Topic Started: Oct 30 2008, 03:44 PM (1,726 Views)
shure	Oct 30 2008, 03:44 PM Post #1
Administrator Posts: 1,788 Group: Administrator Member #1 Joined: Feb 13, 2008	This video has generated much controversy about the amount of TV fakery used on 9/11: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nH8HY4vANIE genghis6l99 put the bridge controversy to bed: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=PshUQPvCUF8 Ace Baker Gives A Perspective Study of Verrazano Narrows Bridge: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kV0nY5n8cL4 Onward!!!



jsk7	Oct 30 2008, 03:51 PM Post #2
Posts: 189 Group: Members Member #42 Joined: Oct 15, 2008	There's nothing mysterious about the "moving bridge". Ace Baker explains it perfectly.



RasgaSaias	Oct 30 2008, 07:17 PM Post #3
Posts: 1,368 Group: Global Moderator Member #43 Joined: Oct 16, 2008	Is it the end of this nonsense already? Moving bridges, fake smoke, UFOs, etc... Can we forget about those disinfo arguments and focus on the real deal from now on?



Witness	Oct 30 2008, 11:31 PM Post #4
Posts: 222 Group: Members Member #2 Joined: Sep 26, 2008	Sounds good Ragu, lets talk about the planes that hit the towers in new york and the one that hit the Pentagon, OK?
Posts: 222 Group: Members Member #2 Joined: Sep 26, 2008


genghis6199	Oct 31 2008, 08:02 AM Post #5
Posts: 1,913 Group: Members Member #4 Joined: Sep 27, 2008	yeh here's an actual photo of those planes : ===================== no layering necessary Edited by genghis6199, Oct 31 2008, 08:54 AM.



thepye	Oct 31 2008, 11:00 PM Post #6
Moderator Posts: 226 Group: Global Moderator Member #36 Joined: Oct 10, 2008	genghis6199 Oct 31 2008, 08:02 AM yeh here's an actual photo of those planes : ===================== no layering necessary Made my day with that one. Too funny!



Witness	Nov 1 2008, 05:32 AM Post #7
Posts: 222 Group: Members Member #2 Joined: Sep 26, 2008	Hahahahhahahhahahhaha Good one
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shure	May 14 2009, 04:07 AM Post #8
Administrator Posts: 1,788 Group: Administrator Member #1 Joined: Feb 13, 2008	(From Sha Llel) Quote: "This is a photo of my Music Studio, with a church in the background (1/2 a mile away) For the second photo, I walked ten yards back and took the same photo with zoom. The reason the church appears so much bigger is this. The arch, being nearer, reduces in size rapidly as I move backwards. The church, being much farther off, stays almost same size. So it appears to be bigger."



Chander	May 14 2009, 03:29 PM Post #9
Posts: 181 Group: Members Member #155 Joined: Feb 14, 2009	Simon points to two differences in his two photos that he thinks provide evidence of photo fakery: the difference in height of the bridge and the idea that the bridge seems to have moved sideways. These two photos of the church in the distance illustrate that both these phenomena are the perfectly normal result of different zooms from different distances, but at the same angle to the subject. In the second picture - with the larger church - the trees next to the church seem to have moved sideways - just like the Verrazano-Narrows bridge does. Everyone who tried to point out this obvious misrepresentation by Simon over at 911 movement was silenced so, apparently, KT and Simon realize that this "evidence" of fakery is insupportable, but they're going to stick with it anyway and just get rid of everyone who wakes up to the fraud.



Chander	May 14 2009, 10:37 PM Post #10
Posts: 181 Group: Members Member #155 Joined: Feb 14, 2009	A couple other items of interest to note about this optical phenomenon: It is not related to "depth of field", this is a different phenomenon relating to the depth of distance that is in focus. And second, that the phenomenon is not caused by the zoom alone; no amount of zoom will change the relative size of the foreground to the background. The only way to make the background larger in relation to the foreground is by moving the camera back. The effect of the zoom is merely to show the foreground object as the same size in each picture. Another result of moving the camera back is that objects in the background that were covered up by the foreground object suddenly become visible.



achimspok	Sep 29 2009, 09:38 PM Post #11
Posts: 298 Group: Members Member #266 Joined: Aug 2, 2009	shure May 14 2009, 04:07 AM Quote: For the second photo, I walked ten yards back and took the same photo with zoom. Hitchcock did exactly the same in Vertigo when the protagonist is attacked by his acrophobia. He combined a dolly and a zoom in opposite directions. dolly back + zoom in or vice versa. The effect is very strange because you see just a change in the perspective relations. (Hitchcock was a genius.)



broken sticks	Sep 29 2009, 09:59 PM Post #12
Posts: 1,468 Group: Members Member #105 Joined: Jan 3, 2009	achimspok Sep 29 2009, 09:38 PM (Hitchcock was a genius.) right on



elephant room	Oct 4 2009, 03:25 PM Post #13
Posts: 649 Group: Members Member #50 Joined: Oct 21, 2008	Edited by elephant room, Oct 4 2009, 03:34 PM.



elephant room	Oct 6 2009, 03:35 AM Post #14
Posts: 649 Group: Members Member #50 Joined: Oct 21, 2008	One week ago Webfairy was on Fetzer's show with Shure, adamantly defending the V Bridge fakery theory ... thanks to YougeneDebs' Parallax4U: ... I think she has seen the light. Ode to the power of the truth!... *Kudos and best to WF!* Edited by elephant room, Oct 6 2009, 03:36 AM.



broken sticks	Oct 6 2009, 02:21 PM Post #15
Posts: 1,468 Group: Members Member #105 Joined: Jan 3, 2009	woah! rock and roll!!!



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