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The Sept. 11 Records City records from Sept. 11, including more than 12,000 pages of oral histories rendered in the voices of 503 firefighters, paramedics, and emergency medical technicians, were made public on Aug. 12. The New York Times has published all of them. The oral histories of dispatch transmissions are transcribed verbatim. They have have not been edited to omit coarse language. http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/html/nyregion/20050812_WTC_GRAPHIC/met_WTC_histories_full_01.html Omissions: all 2nd hand reports e.g “a cop said it was a missile”. Anything like “I heard a missile” (although many responders said this) I’ve omitted reports of the collapses, they all basically say the same, that they hear a huge roar, felt shaking, and heard a deafening sound like a locomotive, or a rollercoaster. If there isn’t much description I’ve just summed up what they reported. If there’s a good description, I’ve used quotes. Responders who saw a plane EMT Faisel Abed p3 "we are like a mile out and we see this shiny object coming and me and my partner are going, what the hell, what's wrong with that plane. There is something not right with that plane. And he just, the tower blew" Battalion Chief Thomas Vallebuona P3 “So from there we went down the quarters of marine and we were watching across the bay we could see the fire in the North tower when the next plane that was going to hit the south tower flew over our heads” Firefighter Mike Zechewytz p3 2nd plane “If you were in front of the firehouse and you looked to the right, you saw the smoke. We saw the other plane going from left to right with it’s nose down” Lieutenant George J DeSimone p9 around noon “We saw jets overhead, commercial airliner, military jets, Air Force jets, and we didn’t know what the hell was going on” Lieutenant Robert Larocco p3 and 4 “Now we all heard a plane that sounded like it was in trouble. So everyone stopped what they were doing. It was obvious there was something wrong with the motors. They were like straining, and they were louder than normal. Normally over Manhattan a plane flies very high. We all looked in the sky and didn't see anything, but then for six or seven seconds flying out of the northeast, headed southwest,was this jetliner, like the kind of thing you would go on to go to Miami Beach or Vegas or something like that. It was flying very low, probably about 350 feet. As it passed over us, it wobbled, just a little bit. Then after six or seven seconds of seeing it -- we lost sight of it, because there were six-story tenements around us so that patch of sky that we saw it for just lasted that small amount of time. Anyway, I kind of thought to myself that it was headed toward Newark Airport. It was going southwest kind of in the general direction” David Blacksberg p3 Saw a plane bank around a building (no description) Firefighter Kenneth Escoffry p2 Saw a plane fly over the firehouse at about 8:45 (no description) EMT Alexander Loutsky p2 “I said to look at that plane, that it was flying extremely low” EMT Jourjean Felton p4 “I seen a second plane coming. I’m thinking isn’t that too low? then I noticed, I seen it turn. It turned and went right in the building. But we’re behind” Firefighter Richard Carletti p2 “When I was crossing Delancey St, I saw a jet in front of me, which was the first jet. He was pretty low. He was probably about 30 stories” PO William Ross “At approx 8:45 on the corner of 42nd st and 8th avenue, as I was looking east on 42nd st, I observed a commercial passenger jet flying at an extremely low altitude, and heading south, I looked for sighs of distress, for smoke, fire or any kind of vapour trail. There was none. The landing gear was up and the doors that house the gear closed. The plane was flying level and straight” Responders who saw a plane crash into the WTC EMT David Timothy p4 2nd hit "I heard like an engine roar. I looked up, and the next thing I knew i just saw, I don't know if it was the tail end of the plane or what. When I looked up I heard 'boom'" Rosario Terranova p12 "All of a sudden we heard a huge explosion, you know, and in looking up, you could see the second tower being hit by the second plane" Firefighter Stephen Zasa p3 2nd plane from pier of navy Port facing WTC “I heard a plane roar, I had my window down and on my side we saw a plane flying very low come right across us with it’s engines revved up, I said ‘where is this guy going?’ he was extremely low, and we saw it strike the WTC” Lieutenant Bruce Medjuck p4 “Just as we came out of the bridge (Brooklyn), we could see the towers also with the plane come and slam into tower 2. There was a little bit of delay, then all of a sudden this fireball just shot out of the opposite side of the tower” Firefighter David Vitiello p2 "We actually saw the second plane hit from across the riverr" PO James E Hall “I heard the sound of jet engines and observed an aircraft with a blue tail colour fly directly into the south face of tower 2” Paramedic Kevin Darnowski p3 At tolls on the Brooklyn side “We were sitting in traffic and we watched United Flight 175 hit tower two” Firefighter Eric Berntsen p2 “We heard the explosions from the kitchen (of his firehouse) We went up on the roof and got there just in time to see the plane hit the towers” Firefighter Michael Hazel p3 While driving along Columbia Street “He just says to me, ‘look at this dummy. He’s flying underneath the smoke instead of over it’. With that I turned to my right and looked at the twin towers and I saw the second jet hit” Chief Jerry Gombo p11 “At the corner of my eye, the second plane now comes into the building” (no description) Firefighter James Curran p2 (1st plane) “We heard the plane, we looked up. It was low enough that it rattled the buildings we were staring at it. We saw it come out from behind the buildings and hit tower one” Captain Karin Deshore p3 "At the beginning of the 59 street bridge, the second airliner hit and we witnessed it. Mr Keller later told me that we were still at the office here, but I remember it hitting when we just hit the 59 street bridge on the Queens side" EMT Alwish Moncherry p3 "When we're on the bridge (59th street) there's plenty of traffic. That's when we noticed the second plane hitting tower two" Captain David Loper p3 "I was looking at the north tower I saw what looked like a seagull in the distance almost and it went into the south tower and the south tower exploded in a huge fireball" Chief Albert Turi p4 "I heard something similar to the sound of a jet engine taking off, and when I looked up I saw the impact of the second plane hitting the south tower and immediately a huge fireball erupted that actually masked the upper half of the building and part of the north tower. It was so enormous that even from that great distance [corner of Fulton and Church, east side of wtc] I could feel the radiant heat on my face " Firefighter Joseph Galasso p2 "We could see the towers actually from here. So after the first plane hit, we came up here to look out of the window. We saw it, we watched the second plane hit" Supervising Fire Marshal Robert Byrnes p2 "I looked out of the window I could see smoke blowing off the WTC, several moments later I noticed a second plane and I commented to myself look at this nitwit, he's so close. and before I realized it he had crashed into the south tower" Lieutenant William Walsh p3-4 "We heard this loud roar. Everybody looked up to where they thought they heard the sound coming from, ans we saw an American Airlines plane. To me it looked as if it was going treetop level right down West Street. Then he appeared to rise a little bit. We were under the impression, he looked like he was going down, but we didn't hear any mechanical difficulty. We couldn't figure out why an American Airlines plane would be so low in downtown Manhattan. We sort of expected him to veer off and go into the Hudson. But he rose a little bit, and he was headed straight for the WTC. So just before he got to the Trade Center, it seemed as though he gained power. We were just watching this airplane on target for the WTC. All of a sudden, boom, he disappears into the WTC. You hear this sickening noise as if two peices of fiberglass had hit" EMT Decosta Wright p3 "We had seen the second plane just come in, go right through the second building" Paramedic Neil Sweeting "my first thought was this pilot must have been blinded by the smoke or distracted and then he crashed right into the building" Responders who saw plane debris Firefighter Michael Wernick p8 “I pulled up behind St Pauls Cemetery, so you know this cemetery, there was paper flying all over the place, there were engines all over, plane parts, building parts” EMT-P Kathy Zarr p7 plane debris right turn from Battery tunnel EMT Richard Zarrillo p4 Vessey St saw plane debris (front wheel of plane) Lieutenant Wayne Mera p5 “we were walking up Vessey and we saw parts of the plane on the ground still burning” Firefighter Kevin McCabe p27 Plane debris was crushing a car EMT Alwich Moncherry p4 saw plane debris Firefighter Craig Monahan p4 saw plane parts EMT Brian Gordon p7 saw pieces of a plane falling Paramedic Manuel Delgado p27 near a little plaza close to West Broadway and west Vessey “Right there, there was like a big engine part. It seemed like the whole engine was right there, lying right in the middle of the street. Q:Covered like the way the jet looks (!) A: Yes I could see the fan. There was an airplane tyre also there” Firefighter Thomas Lynn p3 saw plane parts on West street Captain Ray Goldbach p4 Dey or Cortland St “littered with plane parts” Missile report Phillip Ashby Paramedic The bottom half of page 8 is blacked out, then "So I thought somebody had launched a missile from the East River, or over the Hudson to knock it down. I mean that's what I'm thinking. If they are, if they are still out there to launch another missile, I got to get the hell out of there, because we were in a war zone right, exactly" The Arrests Lieutenant Brian Becker p15 “We got to the lobby, we saw things. We saw an arrest of an Arab-looking type guy. I think he had a blue uniform type WTC type maintenance type person. It seemed like he was being arrested by a Port Authority type policeman. I remember them putting cuffs on him” Lieutenant Robert Larococo p34 “Three guys started running towards me, an Arabic looking guy, American though. And the two guys that were chasing were yelling ’Stop, stop, FBI, FBI’ One guy was a tall white guy. Just as this guy was passing to my right, they got a hold of the guy, threw him on the floor and put cuffs on him” EMT Michael D’Angelo p6 “I saw that the US Secret Service were bringing somebody, an Arab man in a suit, covered in soot, walking away with handcuffs. I remember that distinctly because the guy looked right in my eyes” Other people arrested and in custody around the WTC that day were let free as soon as the emergency was realised. The police can’t have been chasing petty criminals. Does anyone know of any charges brought against these men? Overturned vehicles Firefighter James Wallace p3 “cars on fire, ambulances on fire, upside-down. Everything is all over the place” Firefighter Kevin McCabe p25 after collapse "I remember what turned out to be 10 Truck flipped on it's side, kind of twisted" Deputy Chief Thomas Galvin p14 “ I saw all the ambulances turned over. Half of them are on fire” Deputy Chief Charles Wells p9 “On the corner of Liberty and West. Vehicles have flipped over, on fire” Luggage on street Firefighter John Moribito p7 After first hit, before second hit "I noticed in the courtyard there were valises, suitcases, strewn about the courtyard. There were wallets everywhere, broken glass, and then I noticed that there were airplane tickets" Paramedic Manuel Delgrado p26-27 “When we first got there, down Vessey towards West, there was a ton of body parts and like baggage, clothes and stuff. We saw lots of shoes, even some luggage” Prior knowledge? Firefighter John Moribito p11 “I heard over the department radio ‘prepare for impact. A second plane is approaching the building’” EMT Richard Zarillo p5+6 “John came to me and said ‘you need to go find Chief Ganci and relay the following message: that the buildings have been compromised, we need to evacuate, they’re going to collapse’. I went down Vessey St towards West. Q: You were by yourself? A: I was by myself. I got to the corner of Vessey and West. I mentioned to the EMS people, ‘you need to get away from here, the building might collapse, we need to leave this spot’. I found Steve Mosiello. I said ‘the buildings are about to collapse: we need to evac everyone out’. With a very confused look he said ‘who told you that?’ I said ‘I was just with John at OEM. OEM says the buildings are going to collapse; we need to get out’. He escorted me to Chief Ganci. He said ‘hey Pete, we got a message that the buildings are going to collapse’ His reply was, ‘who the f*** told you that?’ Then Steve brought me in, Commissioner Feeham, Chief Turi, I said ‘listen, I was just at OEM. The message that I was given was that the buildings are going to collapse; we need to get people out’ At this moment, this thunderous, rolling roar came down and that’s when the building came down, the first tower came down” EMT Decosta Wright page 11 "Q: were you there when building 7 came down in the afternoon? A:Yes, so basically they measured out how far the building was going to come, so we knew exactly where we could stand" Inconsistent injuries and body parts (graphic descriptions) A map of the reported plane debris and body part locations would be helpful, I’ll have a go at making one, or if anyone else has made one please post it up Lieutenant William Walsh p5 main entrance 1 WTC just after first hit "I noticed 2 civilians that had more than 3rd degree burns. They were in pugilistic position. They were black, burnt. Their skin and their clothes had burnt off. They were smouldering, and they were trying to get up. They were just moving around. I had estimated that they had less than half a minute left in their lives. So we just passed them by" Captain Anthony Varriale P7 “We performed void searches. I was also on the tower, the pile, when they removed one victim, a male. I believe he was the guy that said he was on the 83 or 73rd floor. He seemed to be fairly intact” Deputy Chief Charles Wells p5 between the 2nd hit and the 1st collapse “Firefighter Tim Brown came up to me and said ‘Chief, I have ten people on the ground floor of WTC 2 lobby. They somehow managed to get themselves into the elevator and got down to the lobby, and they all have fractured legs” Firefighter Frank Vaskis p7 saw a foot and other body parts on West Street. Firefighter First Grade Dan Walker p17 “We go out of the door of 5 WTC, right across from the US post office building, when we were going in it was a horrible scene, it was like a war zone already before the first collapse. There was stuff all over the ground, debris, body parts” Evelyn Vega p5 after the second hit she proceeded to WTC 1 “People in the basement needed help, the elevator wasn’t working, it was on two sub levels down. We went down, there was 2 patients, one male, one female, and one had a back injury, and one had a knee or leg injury, fracture” EMT-P Kathy Zarr p7 saw body parts right turn from Battery tunnel Firefighter John Morbito p4,5,+6 just after the first hit “There were many people in the street. They were bleeding, some were burnt. As I was approaching 1 wtc, there was a Chinese man in the middle of the street, and he had been burned pretty badly. We didn’t know how he was burnt, he was lying in the second lane from the right in the middle of the street and he was still alive. When I walked through the lobby, there was broken glass everywhere. There were also 2 people in the lobby, a gentleman who was already burned and was dead, and a female. She was nude. Her clothes had burnt away. Her skin had burnt away. She was still alive, she was trying to communicate. Her eyes were sealed shut. Her throat was apparently sealed. She couldn’t really communicate. Within the next 2 minutes she perished right there” AUDIO LINK http://www.fdnytenhouse.com/audio/morabito.wax Paramedic Louis Cook p34 “The bodies I remembered seeing on West street when we were going up to the command post originally were just covered up. I remember thinking where all the bodies are, I’m walking around now and I can’t see them” EMT Almish Moncherry p4 after 2nd hit “people were coming out of the buildings half burned, the fuel must have spilled down and hit some people. A lot of burns literally down through the skin to the bone” Firefighter Craig Monaham p4 “As we were walking past the towers, it was just unbelievable. You had to watch where you were walking. You didn' t want to step on a scalp or a knee joint or something like that” Lieutenant Robert Larocco p10 “There were people’s unidentifiable guts here and there on Liberty Street. I noticed a forearm and hand. It looked like a young woman. Her hand was manicured, and she had a nice ring on. It kind of looked fake, like a mannequin” Firefighter Peter Fallucca p9 “There was a body in the lobby. Looked like his legs were chopped off. I don’t know where he came from, how he died. Looked like his clothes were a little burnt up on him, but his legs were chopped off” Paramedic Manuel Delgrado p27 p27 west Vesset St and West Broadway “ I remember seeing body parts and thinking ‘where the hell did these freaking body parts come from?’” The Gold EMT Dulce McCorvey p2 “It was like around 8:00, and I went downstairs with someone to get coffee. As we were coming up everyone was running out of the buildings, the elevators. I almost got run over by a lot of suits and a lot of gold“ The Elevators Firefighter Robert Byrne p3 "I remember vividly seeing it looked like the core elevators of the building were blown apart as if a giant had punched through tinfoill" Firefighter John Morbito p12 “I noticed that some of the elevators had been blown out of their shafts. They came down and crashed out of the shaft. They were buckled, and I had noticed that there were still people in the elevators. I believe at this point they were deceased” Lieutenant Brian Becker p8 saw bent doors (no description) Firefighter Peter Fallucca p9 “All the elevators had crashed down. The doors were blown right off the elevators” Firefighter James Curran p4 “ All the elevator banks were kind of blown out at probably 70 degree angles, 60 degree angles, and there is all this rubble and spot fires in the lobby” Lieutenant Wayne Mera p13 in lobby of tower 1 just after second impact "You could see a couple of the elevators had crashed to the bottom and there were doors blown open and stuff. It was strange because there was debris everywhere, not the big heavy steel debris, but there was dust, coated with dust everywhere" Lieutenant William Walsh page 6 in lobby of tower 1 "There's two areas of elevators. There's elevators off to the left hand side which are really the express elevators. That would be the elevators that's facing north. Then on the right hand side there's also elevators that are express elevators, and that would be facing south. In the centre of these two elevators shafts would be elevators that go to the lower floors. They were blown off at the hinges. That's where the service elevator was also" Q" Were these the elevators that went to the upper floors? weren't they the side lobby elevators?" A" No, no, I'd say they went through floors 30 and below" Q"And they were blown off?" A"They were blown off at the hinges, and you could see the shafts. The elevators on the extreme north side and the other express elevator on the extreme south side, they looked intact from what I could see, the doors anyway" Unreleased video of 2nd plane Chief peter Hayden p14 “I’m sure you saw a tape floating around. Did you see a tape floating around? Q: Which tape? A: a tape going round involving the fire? Q:A videotape of it? A: Yeah Q: No A: If you see that, that might be able to help you out. You know showing the plane hitting the building” Rosario Terranova p10 "The second building had yet to be affected, and there was some question about this. There was a video that I was privy to see, which is being kept confidential in nature, held by the chief of safety, and it was taken by an amateur photographer who was doing some training with the first battalion" Miscellaneous EMT Jeffrey Warner p8 “We encountered some reporters and stuff. We were very careful about what we said to them” Firefighter Kirk Long p3+4 (North tower, 22nd floor) “Everything was blown out, the ceiling had fallen. The drop ceiling had blown to the floor. Some of the walls were blown out” Firefighter Pete Guidetti p13 “As I’m walking up to the Manhattan bridge, A car bomb went off in some car” p14 ”they told me I had to decontaminate and get rid of all the clothes” Lieutenant Rene Davilla p28 “Vehicle 219 was destroyed. Q: Was it on fire? A: Fire? We saw the sucker blow up. We heard ‘boom’”: EMT Michael D’Angelo p11 “I remember too, the cars started to explode in the parking lot. I mean the cars started cooking off, they started going off ‘boom, boom, boom, boom, I remember that” Firefighter Maureen MC Ardle-Schulman p10 "All of a sudden you're hearing, there is a guy dressed in army fatigues with automatic weapons shooting people, that there is 4 more planes missing Q: You're hearing all these rumors? A:Yes rumors, There was a guy with a little TV, like a civilian, hooked it up to a building with an outlet. He said, there is 8 planes all together and they only found 4 and, you know, we're getting bomb scares on this building" EMT Brian Gordon p7 “a little Chinese guy called Foo, I can’t remember if that’s his first or last name, was sitting in a chair and he wouldn’t let me touch him and he wouldn’t let go of his briefcase. So finally I forced him to move his hands so I could cut his pants and check his injuries. I told him ‘look, I’ve got to take your blood pressure’ So he said ‘hold on hold on’ and he snapped open his briefcase and he took a wad of hundred dollar bills, it must have been four or five inches thick, out of his pocket and threw it in there, and I looked in the briefcase and it was already full of hundred dollar bills, stacks of them, all the way across, with plane tickets and passports. There must have been $500,000 in there at least, if not like a million” Deputy Chief Charles Wells p12 helped David Handschuh after collapse “I heard a voice behind me, ‘buddy can you please help me?’ so I turned around. There is a guy on the floor, covered in dust, and he’s got an angulated tib fib fracture, and I threw him some water. He goes ‘are you Charlie Wells?’ It turns out it was a friend of mine, Dave Handchu, who’s a daily news photographer. I go ‘your leg’s broken, I’ll get you out of here’ He says to me ‘You know that one of the towers collapsed, because I took a picture of it as it was happening, that’s how I got caught up and then got blown around’” Deputy Commissioner Lynn Tierey p2 " I saw the first plane go into the tower on television, i was at home and getting ready to go into the world trade center, I had an appointment at 11am on the 67th floor of tower number one. So I saw the first plane go in on television, I called Ray Goldbach and said there's a plane into the world trade center, I'm going in." later p4 "We heard the radio broadcast that said there was a second plane into tower number two " Firefighter Frank Sweeney p5 they were parked underneath the pedestrian walkway and stood getting ready in a group "Scott said,'What's wrong with the flight patterns around here?', I said,'What are you talking about?' and the south tower blew up. Scott said, 'that was a plane', I said 'Scott, it was not a plane, it was probably another bomb' He said' No, I saw it, it was a plane' Then a chief came up to him and started yelling at Scott saying 'are you sure you saw a plane?', he was like getting angry. He wanted to make sure that it was a plane that Scott saw. Q 'So the plane came over your head, then'? A 'No that was south of us' EMT Jeffrey Warner p7 “I know that there was one EMT or medic dressed like a Lieutenant, but he started giving orders and we realized that he was just one of us. We’re like, you know—“ |
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| jambatrumpet | May 19 2009, 01:45 AM Post #2 |
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wow... so many injuries and body parts in lobby and at street level... there must'v been many bombs set in basement and the lobby area. |
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| broken sticks | May 19 2009, 02:25 PM Post #3 |
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| broken sticks | May 21 2009, 04:40 AM Post #4 |
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| DrBabs | May 21 2009, 06:07 AM Post #5 |
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I did not enjoy reading this post. There are one or two things in it that I wonder about. The elevators. Much has been said about the elevators being destroyed in various ways. Jet fuel was the first thing that supposedly destroyed them. Now some pretty graphic testimony about the particular damage seen to the elevators. Do they have any pictures? The only images I've ever seen of the elevators at the WTC post attack are in the Naudet film, which shows survivors gratefully exiting an elevator and rushing out of the building. That elevator worked. No idea if it was part of the main elevator shaft that was supposedly damaged before the final destruction of the buildings. |
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| Scotter | May 21 2009, 06:45 AM Post #6 |
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I'm thinking FREIGHT elevators too could hold, what, 8 tons or more- so a rocket engine with fuel makes sense; could melt steel and could be placed strategically but something else.. along the lines of plasma and thermobaric/mini-nuke too (sorry if I miffed with the wrong thread a bit) Edited by Scotter, May 21 2009, 06:50 AM.
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| Deleted User | May 21 2009, 07:41 AM Post #7 |
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I've not seen any pictures of the elevators. Just added 2 more quotes to the elevators bit. I'll look for more. |
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