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Newly Released? What do you guys think of this?; Apparently showing no plane. Posted on YouTube 12/30/10
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brainsandgravy	Jan 3 2011, 03:14 AM Post #1
Posts: 4 Group: Members Member #475 Joined: Nov 24, 2010	I hadn't seen this before. The description says: "Newly released video of 2nd explosion with no plane. Look at it all you want and freeze it between 0 and 1 secondsTHERE IS NO PLANE. This video has taken 9 years to be released through a court order and freedom of information act. its very fine timing but the fact remains. .Im just wondering what other videos they havent released. WPIX Dub 5 11" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuidyNA_PwE
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YougeneDebs	Jan 3 2011, 07:28 AM Post #2
Posts: 758 Group: Perspectivist Member #182 Joined: Mar 30, 2009	I'm sure that once you work out the point of perspective you'll see for yourself why there does not appear to be a plane. Cheers, Debs



beatprophet	Jan 3 2011, 10:49 AM Post #3
Posts: 542 Group: Members Member #8 Joined: Sep 27, 2008	At the time of the plane hitting the south wall of the south tower the camera had not focused on the trade centre towers. Thats the reason why the plane was not seen. And as Debs said the plane would have been hidden from view for the last seconds of it's flight. Nice post though .. Welcome to the forum Beat
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brainsandgravy	Jan 3 2011, 01:33 PM Post #4
Posts: 4 Group: Members Member #475 Joined: Nov 24, 2010	YougeneDebs Jan 3 2011, 07:28 AM I'm sure that once you work out the point of perspective you'll see for yourself why there does not appear to be a plane. Cheers, Debs I imagine you're right, but when I watched it frame by frame, I must admit my first impression thought it odd that NO part of a plane could be seen at that angle. I at first wondered if it could have been edited (hoaxed). The audio is a bit strange with no sound of an impact. But it looks like genuine footage. The camera person probably just missed the plane behind the towers. Thanks for the feedback.
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seatnineb	Jan 3 2011, 03:21 PM Post #5
Posts: 503 Group: Thespian Member #64 Joined: Oct 26, 2008	This has to be the unluckiest miss of the 2nd plane. If he had panned up just a second or 2 earlier he would have got the plane in it's final approach. He did however capture another plane flying quite close by just a few minutes before that explosion.



brainsandgravy	Jan 3 2011, 05:26 PM Post #6
Posts: 4 Group: Members Member #475 Joined: Nov 24, 2010	seatnineb Jan 3 2011, 03:21 PM This has to be the unluckiest miss of the 2nd plane. If he had panned up just a second or 2 earlier he would have got the plane in it's final approach. He did however capture another plane flying quite close by just a few minutes before that explosion. A bit off-topic, but what is this other plane? (I realize I'm quite a late-comer to this forum so forgive me if this has been covered in another thread).
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seatnineb	Jan 3 2011, 06:10 PM Post #7
Posts: 503 Group: Thespian Member #64 Joined: Oct 26, 2008	Don't know mate. I am afraid all we can do is speculate at this moment in time(i.e--the last 9 years!). It could just be your average commercial airliner or something more sinister. Given the fact that 1 tower is already on fire.......this plane does make an almighty close sweep(when compared to the supposed plane that that would actually hit just a few minutes later) Edited by seatnineb, Jan 3 2011, 06:12 PM.



brainsandgravy	Jan 3 2011, 07:13 PM Post #8
Posts: 4 Group: Members Member #475 Joined: Nov 24, 2010	seatnineb Jan 3 2011, 06:10 PM Don't know mate. I am afraid all we can do is speculate at this moment in time(i.e--the last 9 years!). It could just be your average commercial airliner or something more sinister. Given the fact that 1 tower is already on fire.......this plane does make an almighty close sweep(when compared to the supposed plane that that would actually hit just a few minutes later) Can you do me a favor and figure that out? Curious minds want to know Thanks for your input.
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YougeneDebs	Jan 4 2011, 04:21 AM Post #9
Posts: 758 Group: Perspectivist Member #182 Joined: Mar 30, 2009	I think it's likely it's the Hayes/Jordan helicopter. eta: After some input by seatnineb, I'm not so sure. Read on. /edit Edited by YougeneDebs, Jan 4 2011, 01:02 PM.



seatnineb	Jan 4 2011, 04:51 AM Post #10
Posts: 503 Group: Thespian Member #64 Joined: Oct 26, 2008	YougeneDebs Jan 4 2011, 04:21 AM I think it's likely it's the Hayes/Jordan helicopter. Gotta admit that maybe I jumped the gun a bit too quick to declare that it was an airliner. I guess it could be a chopper.....or a small private jet.....whatever it is......it's moving quick.



YougeneDebs	Jan 4 2011, 07:27 AM Post #11
Posts: 758 Group: Perspectivist Member #182 Joined: Mar 30, 2009	seatnineb Jan 4 2011, 04:51 AM YougeneDebs Jan 4 2011, 04:21 AM I think it's likely it's the Hayes/Jordan helicopter. Gotta admit that maybe I jumped the gun a bit too quick to declare that it was an airliner. I guess it could be a chopper.....or a small private jet.....whatever it is......it's moving quick. I'm sorry, seatnineb; I missunderstood your post #5; the light colored object was filmed before the explosion; is that what you mean? In which case, I'd like to see the fooage of that; I don't recall seeing it before. Would you have a link, please? Thanks in advance. And again, my bad. Debs



seatnineb	Jan 4 2011, 11:51 AM Post #12
Posts: 503 Group: Thespian Member #64 Joined: Oct 26, 2008	YougeneDebs Jan 4 2011, 07:27 AM seatnineb Jan 4 2011, 04:51 AM YougeneDebs Jan 4 2011, 04:21 AM I think it's likely it's the Hayes/Jordan helicopter. Gotta admit that maybe I jumped the gun a bit too quick to declare that it was an airliner. I guess it could be a chopper.....or a small private jet.....whatever it is......it's moving quick. I'm sorry, seatnineb; I missunderstood your post #5; the light colored object was filmed before the explosion; is that what you mean? In which case, I'd like to see the fooage of that; I don't recall seeing it before. Would you have a link, please? Thanks in advance. And again, my bad. Debs No probs Debs Yes...that plane flies past before the 2nd hit. Matt deserves credit here....It is on his page: http://www.911conspiracy.tv/2nd_hit_missed.html Scroll down the video called "Explosion 57(New) Full" It is right down the bottom. The plane comes into view at about 2:11 in the video.....it approaches from the south(possibly south east).....and very quickly flies past the west side of the WTC. Edited by seatnineb, Jan 4 2011, 11:53 AM.



YougeneDebs	Jan 4 2011, 12:59 PM Post #13
Posts: 758 Group: Perspectivist Member #182 Joined: Mar 30, 2009	Thanks, seat~ I found a video at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paUI8tRw6pc I noticed the vrt of the white plane at 2:18; then 6 edits (2:34, 2:42, 3:02, 3:19, 3:48, and 4:04) in conjuction with the explosion at vrt 4:05 which leaves an elapsed time of 1:47, not counting the edits (of unknown duration). Obviously the white object is not the Hayes/Jordan helicopter which shows up after the explosion (and I'll edit my previous post). However, it could still be the Hayes/Jordan helicopter operating on the west side of the WTC (Salmendinger was on the east side). Subtractimg 1m47s from 9h02m54s (seismic time of the explosion) yields 9:01:07 am; but the number of edits will make it earlier, somewhat. Since the NYPD helicopters were on scene by 8:55am, there's a chance 'your' white object could be the Hays/Jordan helicopter. OTOH, it would be interesting to cross-reference this sighting with the pre-explosion 'white elephant' found in Brian Gately's footage. Does anyone have a clip of Brian Gately's pre-explosion 'white elephant' timed to the explosion? Thanks in advance, Debs



seatnineb	Jan 4 2011, 01:10 PM Post #14
Posts: 503 Group: Thespian Member #64 Joined: Oct 26, 2008	I don't have a link to the full video of Brian Gately. But i do recall that the time stamp was 8:58 am(basically 5 minutes before impact) on the video(although I might be mistaken) when that white elephant appears. Apart from a plane or chopper...It could be an unmanned drone. I did a video a couple of years back showing a comparison: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsKIViPVAts



A Storm is Coming	Jan 5 2011, 12:29 AM Post #15
Posts: 1,147 Group: Global Moderator Member #372 Joined: May 19, 2010	seatnineb Jan 3 2011, 03:21 PM This has to be the unluckiest miss of the 2nd plane. If he had panned up just a second or 2 earlier he would have got the plane in it's final approach. He did however capture another plane flying quite close by just a few minutes before that explosion. Thats the white helicopter It looks like the helicopter It flies like the helicopter yet you call it a plane! Why?



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