| Welcome to Pumpitout. We hope you enjoy your visit. You're currently viewing our forum as a guest. This means you are limited to certain areas of the board and there are some features you can't use. If you join our community, you'll be able to access member-only sections, and use many member-only features such as customizing your profile, sending personal messages, and voting in polls. Registration is simple, fast, and completely free. Join our community! If you're already a member please log in to your account to access all of our features: |
| Tiffany, Rob, PfT, and EA990 | |
|---|---|
| Tweet Topic Started: Jul 26 2010, 08:35 PM (690 Views) | |
| broken sticks | Jul 26 2010, 08:35 PM Post #1 |
|
well, that was fun! i've just been reading a thread at ATS where "Tiff" has been arguing almost the exact same things as here, non-stop, for a week, until the mods closed the thread and publicly warned "Tiff" for being abusive. 43 PAGES! lol (the thread is here: http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread592717/pg1, but i'll save you the trouble of reading it all) before i get into a few details, here's a few choice quotes from some ATS regulars: re: exceeding limits "I'm not sure they were that worried about safety, Rob. Sorry, Tiffany." "So, the evidence that the United States government conspired to kill 3000 of its own citizens is now on sale! That's really precious. Thank you for your patriotism. :D" "Can you provide a free link to all the contents of all the DVD's that this little group is currently hustling?" "Quite a lot of pilots aren't members, are they? Perhaps they're not that convinced." "Look Rob, everybody knows you just do this to sell overpriced DVDs." now, before we let "tiffany" churn out any more bile on the forum, let's take a brief look at the facts: the only data Rob Balsamo has to say that the plane MUST have fallen apart, is a V-G diagram that was created to keep the plane in check with incredibly high safety values. there is simply no data to support the claim that "flight 175" MUST have fallen apart at the speeds seen on 911, only that Boeing tell pilots to not go anywhere near certain limits (even more stringent limits than the FAA prescribe). AND the only case they use as a precedent for their completely unsubstantiated claims is EgyptAir Flight 990 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EgyptAir_Flight_990). As you will see, this is clearly not proof for ANYthing relating to 911: 1. Its a different plane! EA990 was a 767-336ER. UA175 was a 767-222ER, which, amongst other differences, is over 20ft shorter than EA990. 2. The pilot of EA990 shut off the engines when it began its dive (see NTSB diagram at the wiki page linked above). No wonder it didn't reach the speeds of flight 175! 3. EA990 was in a much steeper dive than 175 ever was. and it dove at this angle for over tens of thousands of feet before ever beginning to break up. 4. The professional pilot of EA990 did it on purpose! He was TRYING to destroy the aircraft! The flight maneuvers carried out by EA990 were completely different to flight 175, the conditions, the directions of movement, the forces acting on the plane, EVEN THE PLANES WERE DIFFERENT. btw, i forgot to mention, this thread is available on DVD for $17.95. |
 |
 
|
| broken sticks | Jul 26 2010, 08:47 PM Post #2 |
|
[edit, sang to the tune of Mandy - Barry Manilow] "oh tiffnee you came and you brought some disinfo on your vacation away from balsamo your own members debunk your own movie yeah we owned you today, ohhh tiffnee" Edited by broken sticks, Jul 26 2010, 08:48 PM.
|
|
|
|
| broken sticks | Jul 26 2010, 09:03 PM Post #3 |
|
i told rob balsamo his time would come. he brought it on himself. |
|
|
|
| broken sticks | Jul 26 2010, 09:37 PM Post #4 |
|
here's a documentary on EA990: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8722145249347971631# |
|
|
|
| broken sticks | Jul 27 2010, 06:23 PM Post #5 |
|
well, it would appear that all has gone quiet in terms of the PfT trolls for now 
|
|
|
|
| TiffanyInLA | Jul 28 2010, 06:29 PM Post #6 |
|
Talk to yourself much? LMAO Hey brokensticks, when you wake up in the morning, do you ask yourself why no one pays attention to you? LMAO |
|
|
|
| broken sticks | Jul 28 2010, 11:09 PM Post #7 |
|
the amount of views on this thread would suggest otherwise tiff. and posting information on the disinfo of "Pilots for 911 Truth" / Rob Balsamo, and his disinformation DVD's (including: "9/11: WORLD TRADE CENTER ATTACK") in a google-searchable forum will be useful for many real truth-seekers. and the previous sentence will aid them in their search 
|
|
|
|
| TiffanyInLA | Jul 29 2010, 01:02 AM Post #8 |
|
LMAO! Delusions of grandeur much? You have a looong way to go before you even reach the first page on google. http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=rob+balsamo+911&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&pbx=1&fp=62f6a49cd7deb202 But your disinfo is being preserved under your "name" at P4T forum. http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=brokensticks+911&aq=f&aqi=m1&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&pbx=1&fp=62f6a49cd7deb202 So is Shure... http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=shure+911&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&pbx=1&fp=62f6a49cd7deb202 And Jeff Hill... http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=Jeff+Hill+911&aq=f&aqi=g1&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&pbx=1&fp=62f6a49cd7deb202 and achimspok... http://www.google.com/#q=achimspok+911&hl=en&sa=2&fp=62f6a49cd7deb202 Sorry, but 30 views per day doesn't exactly attract google spider bots. Compare and learn.... Total Forum Posts: 19,491 Total Members: 401 Jul 24 2010, 02:08 PM, a record 84 users were online. Our members have made a total of 121,880 posts We have 2,912 registered members Most users ever online was 3,893 on Dec 9 2009, 05:13 PM To top it off, most of your members are spam bots! "The newest member is webdesignlondon" LMAO Edited by TiffanyInLA, Jul 29 2010, 01:13 AM.
|
|
|
|
| YougeneDebs | Jul 29 2010, 02:49 AM Post #9 |
|
Hmmmm... Let me see if I get this straight... 20,000 Frenchmen can't be wrong. Is that what you're telling me, Tiff??? |
|
|
|
| jambatrumpet | Jul 29 2010, 09:26 PM Post #10 |
|
Popularity does not dictate accuracy... actually, just the opposite. Seems like tiffanyinla is resorting to a fair amount of stone throwing...which demonstrates a fair amount of insecurity. |
|
|
|
| broken sticks | Aug 1 2010, 07:03 PM Post #11 |
|
wrong. put "rob balsamo disinfo" into google and this thread is the 7th result. soz 
|
|
|
|
| 1 user reading this topic (1 Guest and 0 Anonymous) | |
| « Previous Topic · The Drama Club · Next Topic » |
12:40 PM Jul 13