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APTN, not "Tiger Aspect", credited for the "Brooklyn Bridge Footage"
Topic Started: Jul 22 2010, 06:36 PM (1,983 Views)
chrisbornag

At http://www.911conspiracy.tv/2nd_hit.html Matt wrote:

"Long story short, see Chris Bornag's article, Tracking 9/11: "The Brooklyn Bridge Footage" and its use on the 2003 PsyOps for War [http://www.reocities.com/chrisbornag/brooklyn.htm. Contrary to Bornag's study, aparchive.com [http://www.aparchive.com/Search.aspx?st=shwc&xslt=scssr&id=75905] gives these details: "Story No. X01885; Title: September 11th Anniversary Clipreel: Part 8." Source is "Tiger Aspect."

For a while the shot was attributed to terrorists due to a mistake (or deception) by the mainstream media and/or FBI [http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3660553. The fact that this piece of video was shot or purchased by Associated Press (AP), coupled with the fact that the FBI recently released the video on a DVD in response to a FOIA request, suggests deception [http://www.penttbom.com. Watch the Penttbom version now [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HoyWAjVpZzY.

The point of perspective, as calculated by Achimspok [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-K-WjsHa_2k#t=1m2s] is -73.994125, 40.704294. "

Matt was credited with one earlier finding:

1 -

"A recent finding by the 9-11_TV_archive showed to me that pieces of the same "Brooklyn Bridge Footage" were seen in a 2002 UK documentary by Michael Attwell and his "MAP-TV": "9/11: A Tale of Two Towers" There at time 3:13-16 Then: There at time 0:01-0:17 Then: To see additional credits at the end. The "Archive" credits for that documentary are:
CBS News
CNN
Gamma Press USA
Iskra/Isis
ITN Archive
NBC
Tiger Aspect Productions
Erik Tischler

This is the only early source, found by Matt, mentioning "Tiger Aspect Productions".

The other three earlier sources found thus far were:

2a -

The nationwide public broadcasting station PBS – NOVA, "Why the Towers Fell" with an airing date: April 30, 2002. At the very beginning of the program, New York’s World Trade Center can be seen from across the East River in Brooklyn while the narrator declares "By now you've seen the images..." [This program has been retransmitted by the same station].

The archive material sources can still be seen online:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/transcripts/2907_wtc.html
Archive Material
ABC News
Associated Press Television News
BNN TV
CNN Image Source
Discovery Communications, Inc.
Federal Emergency Management Agency
Gamma Press USA
ITN Archive
Molesworth Enterprises, Inc.
NBC News Archives
New York City Police Department
The Port Authority of New York and New Jersey
WABC-TV Channel 7

(Sorry Matt, no "Tiger Aspect" was credited here by the PBS – NOVA, but “Associated Press Television News” which abbreviated is “APTN”).

3 -

By the cable TV, TLC – Discovery, "World Trade Center: Anatomy of the Collapse". Release Company: Artisan Entertainment. August 20, 2002. Here, fragments of the footage are seen multiple times in the second part of the program.

The archival material sources that this TLC - Discovery Channel documentary presents are:
ABC Video Source
APTN
BBC
BNN TV
Conus Communications
Corus
Footage Direct
FEMA
GAMMA PRESS
Getty Images
Index Stockshots
ITN/Reuters
Lucia Davis
MacDonald & Associates
NASA
NBC
NIST
NYPD
Ronald S. Pordy
The Port Authority of New York & New Jersey

[Archival material found in the French Version of this documentary, entitled: "Les Twin Towers: Autopsie D'Un Effondrement", a darlow production in association with Channel Four & The Learning Channel. Channel Four Television Corporation MMII]

(So, sorry again for the second time Matt, no "Tiger Aspect" was credited here by the TLC - Discovery Channel, but, again “APTN”).

4 -

The now fourth source for that same footage was seen in a documentary by Daniel Hopsicker, who released his documentary "Mohammed Atta and the Venice Flying Circus" on August 15, 2002.

2b -

To determine who did that video, we compared the "Archive Material" credits at the end of the THREE TV documentaries mentioned before. Furthermore, we compared a fourth documentary also aired by PBS-NOVA on 2006, described as the sequel of "Why the Towers Fell" by PBS, whose title was "Building on Ground Zero" and where we can see again the very same ‘Brooklyn Bridge’ footage. [PBS – NOVA 2006. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/wtc:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/wtc/credits.html
Archival Material
Footage Courtesy of ABCNEWS VIDEOSOURCE
Associated Press Television News
Federal Emergency Management Agency
ITN Archive
New York City Police Department
The Port Authority of New York and New Jersey
James A Bonner Productions - Philadelphia Fire Films
KWTV News 9
KWY-TV CBS 3
WNCN-TV NBC 17
Oklahoma City National Memorial

(So, sorry again for the third time Matt, no "Tiger Aspect" was credited here by PBS – NOVA but the “Associated Press Television News”).

So, on December of 2003 with the heat of the war on Iraq, an expert investigative newscaster declared that such 9/11 footage: "may be never-before-broadcast video." However, to the best of our knowledge, such video was presented at least FOUR times on 9/11 documentaries before 2003, THREE of them on TV.

With the evidence available at that time the only common source credited for the THREE programs airing the "Brooklyn Bridge Footage" was:

The “Associated Press Television News” (abbreviated as " APTN " by the TLC - Discovery).

It was not until recently, as mentioned by Matt, that the Associated Press posted the next:

"www.aparchive.com [http://www.aparchive.com/Search.aspx?st=shwc&xslt=scssr&id=75905] gives these details: "Story No. X01885; Title: September 11th Anniversary Clipreel: Part 8." Source: "Tiger Aspect."

So, I did a quick check on this "Tiger Aspect" company and this is what I found:

http://www.fundinguniverse.com/company-histories/Tiger-Aspect-Productions-Ltd-Company-History.html

A-
Tiger Aspect, which reportedly had been up for sale in the early 2000s, continued to seek partners in order to broaden the range of its expansion interests.

B-
Targeting International Markets in the 2000s

Tiger Aspect's interests increasingly turned international by the dawn of the 21st century. Tigress Productions, for example, opened an office in Washington, D.C.

If "Tiger Aspect" is the "real" source and not "APTN", why it was not credited by the at least THREE sources mentioned above (PBS - NOVA missing TWICE (in 2002 and 2006) the opportunity to properly credit it!!!), its archive sources are documented with links to the original PBS station. And the TLC - Discovery Channel not crediting it to "Tiger Aspect" in 2002.

That's why now I conclude that the “Associated Press Television News” is the only common match to the above archival sources and is abbreviated as " APTN " by the TLC - Discovery documentary. So we have written evidences in the end credits of three documentaries that “APTN “was the "friendly" source for the FBI... Why aparchive.com credits it to "Tiger Aspect"? If aparchive.com is wrong, it needs correct it, so I'm sending it this one. Do they have any evidence to support that claim? Does it really matter to anybody anymore? ...
Edited by chrisbornag, Sep 3 2010, 12:32 PM.
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chrisbornag

Removed to give space to more recent information (see below).
Edited by chrisbornag, Sep 3 2010, 12:35 PM.
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Awesome. Thanks!

http://www.911conspiracy.tv/2nd_hit.html#Brooklyn_Bridge - updated

Edited by Matt, Jul 22 2010, 07:48 PM.
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chrisbornag

Thanks Matt!

No answer or correction yet from "The Associated Press".

This is what I asked today to Daniel Hopsicker:

To: commandantemadcow@yahoo.com

Subject: Brooklyn Bridge Footage Source Inquiry

Daniel,

Can you tell us the original source of the "Brooklyn Bridge Footage" that appeared in your 2002 documentary:

"Mohammed Atta and the Venice Flying Circus" ?

A question asked by,

Chris Bornag
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chrisbornag

No answers yet.

This is the third message sent today related to this footage, also found at:
Sept 11, 2001 #2 from Zacarias Moussaoui Trial
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-480304891269991297
Clip 3 of 14 ~ 2:55 - 4:27 of 20:45

--------------------------------

webmaster@vaed.uscourts.gov
Footage Source Request

Dear Webmaster,

Can you tell me the source of the footage that we see in Clip 3 between minutes 2:55 to 4:27

P200015 Compilation of videotape of the World Trade Center taken on September 11, 2001
[This video includes 14 clips and runs 20 minutes, 46 seconds. Viewer discretion is advised. Clip one is copyrighted by Goldfish Pictures.]

http://www.vaed.uscourts.gov/notablecases/moussaoui/exhibits/prosecution/P200015.html

These exhibits were posted on the Internet on July 31, 2006.

Sincerely,

Christian Bornag
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chrisbornag

Nothing yet, I sent one more today:

general@tigeraspect.co.uk

Footage Inquiry

Tiger Aspect,

According to the Associated Press video Archive, you are credited with the next 9/11 Brooklyn Bridge Footage:
http://www.aparchive.com/Search.aspx?st=shwc&xslt=scssr&id=75905
Page 2. Video 22
September 11th Anniversary Clipreel: Part 8
Tiger Aspect: North Tower On Fire, Plane Hitting South Tower, Shot From Beneath The Brooklyn Bridge
Tiger Aspect. LS Twin Towers (shot from beneath the Brooklyn Bridge), North Tower on fire. CU Towers then pull out to long shot. MS Twin Towers. LS Twin Towers. CU Twin Towers. LS Plane hitting South
Story No: X01885 Source: Tiger Aspect
Date: 11/9/2001

Is that true?

How is it that earlier documentaries showing that footage never acknowledged you?
http://s1.zetaboards.com/pumpitout/topic/3620120/1

Sincerely,

Chris Bornag
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chrisbornag

Finally, I received an answer by Tiger Aspect.

"Tiger Aspect" is the owner of the footage, however APTN collects money for anybody else willing to use of this footage.

On the 18th of June 2010 14:57, in "the statement and report for May10", Associated Press Television News (APTN) asked Tiger Aspect to be invoiced or charged $1157.13 for APTN's use of Tiger Aspect's footage (APTN itself asked Tiger Aspect to be charged those Royalties), now, if anybody else wants to use in a documentary, Associated Press collect/charge for the use of this clip that Tiger Aspect owns.

With this new information, and by checking back the aforementioned documentaries' credits, we see that when Michael Attwell and his "MAP-TV" did "9/11: A Tale of Two Towers" (2002. Matt, do you have the month?), only "Tiger Aspect Productions" is mentioned; however, in April 30, 2002, "Tiger Aspect Productions" disappears from the credits while "Associated Press Television News" appears in the credits of PBS – NOVA, "Why the Towers Fell" with an airing date: April 30, 2002, and as APTN in August 20, 2002 in the credits of the TLC – Discovery, documentary "World Trade Center: Anatomy of the Collapse". Release Company: Artisan Entertainment.

Concluding: "Tiger Aspect" is the owner, leasing it to APTN, which is the sub-leaser of it.
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congratulations on something paying off! good work. so the way that reads to me, APTN paid for the rights to play the clip, and used canny legal planning to make money from it whenever its used now? corporate investment in plane videos.
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chrisbornag
Aug 23 2010, 10:00 AM

With this new information, and by checking back the aforementioned documentaries' credits, we see that when Michael Attwell and his "MAP-TV" did "9/11: A Tale of Two Towers" (2002. Matt, do you have the month?), only "Tiger Aspect Productions" is mentioned; however, in April 30, 2002, "Tiger Aspect Productions" disappears from the credits while "Associated Press Television News" appears in the credits of PBS – NOVA, "Why the Towers Fell" with an airing date: April 30, 2002, and as APTN in August 20, 2002 in the credits of the TLC – Discovery, documentary "World Trade Center: Anatomy of the Collapse". Release Company: Artisan Entertainment.

Concluding: "Tiger Aspect" is the owner, leasing it to APTN, which is the sub-leaser of it.
I can't find an air date (or month) for "9/11: A Tale of Two Towers," but this article says "in the fall" of 2002. I found the link here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESVZGRcUQL4.

Public TV first aired it Sept. 1, 2003.
http://www.aptonline.org/catalog.nsf/bpt/C62B0C78DDD0725E85256D5F00611E99?OpenDocument

Thanks for all the work on this.
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chrisbornag

Matt,

That may mean that 2002 was the transition year were negotiations were being consolidated between 'APTN' and "Tiger Aspect" because in April 30, 2002 only the "Associated Press Television News" was acknowledged without mentioning "Tiger Aspect" by PBS - NOVA, same in August 20, 2002 when only 'APTN' was acknowledged by TLC - Discovery Channel while MAP-TV did not mention 'APTN' but "Tiger Aspect Productions" as the source. The rtf and pdf of the last link you added says this on its copyright: © 2002 Michael Atwell Productions/Channel Five.

The full starting sentence from your first link reads:

Bafta Head Says Change Is Good
Publication: The Hollywood Reporter
Date: Tuesday, August 27 2002

"Television producer Michael Attwell on July 2 began a two-year term as chairman of the British Academy of Film and Television Arts, succeeding film producer Simon Relph. A veteran of the BBC, ITV, Channel 4 and Channel 5, Attwell now is managing director of his own production company, MAP-TV. His feature-length documentary "9/11: A Tale of Two Towers" will air in the fall on Channel 5, Discovery Europe, ZDF and the Canadian Broadcasting Corp."

Broken Sticks,

Thanks, the search goes on.

The next email was sent today to two addresses at "Tiger Aspect" and two at the "Associated Press":

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Dear Martin Heriot,

Is there any chance to know the story behind the mentioned video (P.S. 1); for example, who filmed it? In which circumstances (camera, standing or on vehicle, etc.)? Its public history (airings, rights transfers or how Tiger Aspect got it...)? Such information will be extremely valuable now that the "9th 9/11 Anniversary" approaches.

Thanks!

Chris Bornag

P.S.1:

http://www.aparchive.com/Search.aspx?st=shwc&xslt=scssr&id=75905
Page 2. Video 22
September 11th Anniversary Clipreel: Part 8
Tiger Aspect: North Tower On Fire, Plane Hitting South Tower, Shot From Beneath The Brooklyn Bridge
Tiger Aspect. LS Twin Towers (shot from beneath the Brooklyn Bridge), North Tower on fire. CU Towers then pull out to long shot. MS Twin Towers. LS Twin Towers. CU Twin Towers. LS Plane hitting South
Story No: X01885 Source: Tiger Aspect
Date: 11/9/2001

P.S.2.:

The most recent research related to that event:
http://content.onlinejacc.org/cgi/reprint/55/10_MeetingAbstracts/A86.E810.pdf
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chrisbornag

The most recent answer received:

Dear Chris

It was one of Tiger Aspect’s Cameraman who was filming a factual production at the time in NY and heard the 1st plane go into the tower, turned his camera around and filmed the 2nd plane hit

That is how Tiger got the footage

As for rights cost etc this clip is looked after for us by Benna George at Associated Press

Many thanks

Martin
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chrisbornag
Sep 3 2010, 07:46 PM
The most recent answer received:

Dear Chris

It was one of Tiger Aspect’s Cameraman who was filming a factual production at the time in NY and heard the 1st plane go into the tower, turned his camera around and filmed the 2nd plane hit

That is how Tiger got the footage

As for rights cost etc this clip is looked after for us by Benna George at Associated Press

Many thanks

Martin
Chris~ Thanks for all your hard work on this issue!

Just to be clear: "one of Tiger Aspect’s Cameraman" (sic) was 'under' the Brooklyn Bridge when WTC1 was hit, then "turned his camera around and..." -- after waiting some 18 minutes! -- "filmed the 2nd plane hit" at about 9"03???

So, there's some 18 minutes of film prior to the second hit from under the Brooklyn Bridge?

Did I get that right?

Thanks again,
Debs
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chrisbornag

It seems correct, the documentary aired by TLC - Discovery Channel:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yStlfBOIBfo
Shows earlier shots from that camera, with choppers and other smaller aircraft flying around even earlier than their clip presented at:
Sept 11, 2001 #2 from Zacarias Moussaoui Trial
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-480304891269991297
Clip 3 of 14 ~ 2:55 - 4:27 of 20:45
Edited by chrisbornag, Sep 6 2010, 07:04 PM.
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The last one sent:

Dear Martin,

Can we access its raw footage in its full extension (100%), and the information about the whereabouts of its filmmaker before and after filming it (for example: what was he doing in NY that day, his personal experience of having been there, his memories of 9/11 nine years later, etc.)?

Commemorating 9/11, lest we forget...

Christian Bornag

P.S.:

http://ehp03.niehs.nih.gov/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1289%2Fehp.1001924
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NIST says Richard Numeroff is the source/owner.
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