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Topic Started: Apr 23 2009, 05:01 AM (14,324 Views)
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USA911
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May 6 2009, 02:48 AM
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- May 5 2009, 11:53 PM
hey here's a crazy thought.
if the perps knew the videographers were gonna have strange stories....
do you think they might go on-line and try to ruin the reputation of the videographers pre-emptively?. would it not create a divide between us and our best resource?.
I believe that's exactly what they did.
They had "Nosed Out" lying in waiting for us, so that, at the opportune time, and with our conscience so shock by its presentation of video fakery, they could more easily slip past our shocked and less critically discerning consciences the totally unproven and blanket assertion that all of these videographers, along with all of the other eyewitnesses to 9/11, were either lying or totally deluded.
We, then, are to wholeheartedly and uncritically accept this proposition so that we might never get together with them to resolve the paradox between the physical evidence and the eyewitness testimony.
What they seem to have unduly marginalized in their calculations, however, is the Jeff Factor. A guy who, ignoring the mind-blowing paradox, will actually get on the telephone, cross over the apparently insurmountable mental barrier they have established for us, and talk directly to the people who he's supposed to be dead set against.
Jeff, you are a truly unbelievable guy! You are, quite literally, my man, one a six and half billion.
Edited by USA911, May 6 2009, 02:52 AM.
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Jonayla
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May 6 2009, 11:00 AM
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- May 5 2009, 11:53 PM
hey here's a crazy thought.
if the perps knew the videographers were gonna have strange stories
eg. "there was two planes there" "it was like a bad special effect" "it came from north west" " it came low and silent up the hudson" "it flew around new jersey" "it was deafening" "it was silent"
do you think they might go on-line and try to ruin the reputation of the videographers pre-emptively?. would it not create a divide between us and our best resource?.
Very interesting thought, indeed.
Thanks!
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May 6 2009, 11:04 AM
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Jeff...appreciate your help. Here's some answers to questions the "other forums" ask that are personal and have absolutely no merit or value to this issue. If they did, I would be most willing to answer fully. In that light, I'll give some "non-answers". 1 Relative to son Sam. There is absolutely no connection to this issue. The camera I used did belong to Sam, however, he purchased it after asking for my recommendation. It was the same model I used to photograph new product development where I worked prior to 9/11. I knew it to be dependable, easy to operate and reliable in its output. When I went to NYC, I was not working at the same job and didn't have a digital camera I liked, so I sort of pulled rank on Sam and asked to borrow his. After 9/11 we traded so I could keep that one. 2. After 9/11, I contacted Lynne Christen when I found her website while I was looking for someone to help me write. We were both absolutely astonished as we discussed my subject matter and her husband's work, which was way over my head. I found their travel and interest in cooking to be wonderful and had hoped that my husband Lynn and I would get a chance to meet them when we visited Sam in Destin, but we have yet to meet Lynne and Hank. She and I have not corresponded in well over a year. 3. Gwen Break and I are not, I assure you, the same person. Since the Killtown guy alluded to her half-hidden face in the picture, I guess that is where he was headed. She has absolutely nothing to do with the events of 9/11. 4. Mark Anderson and his family are great neighbors and their kids are polite, the dog is friendly and if they have a party or cookout, we're always invited. I would venture to say that on 9/11 Mark did whatever other military personnel did. As Americans, we should all be proud that Mark is representative of our military. So, relative to his merit or value on this or any issue having to do with American safety and freedom, we should all just say a prayer for him and all the other good and brave Americans who protect us. 5. The AP "Postage stamp" photo. You got me on that one. I don't have a clue why my name is on it. Guess it just goes to show you can't believe everything you read. I did not take that picture, have nothing to do with it and am not that good a photographer and can't properly operate a camera much more sophisticated than the Mavica (which no longer works). 6. I am also NOT the same Carmen Taylor on web sites trying to get men or dates. I am also not a man, a dude or a transvestite--all of which have absolutely nothing to do with 9/11. Here are a few 9/11 answers that are relative: 1. EvilUSA said "She has yet to clearly state that she saw the plane pic in Battery Park." Yes, I did see it then. After I was helped off the ferry and was back in Battery Park, I didn't just stand there alone and look at pictures in my camera. There was too much confusion for that kind of introspective study. When people started gathering around and asking each other questions, some saying a plane might have hit the towers, I more or less just spoke up and volunteered the information that "I have a picture of the plane." That got immediate attention and I turned the camera on and brought up that picture. I didn't know that much about planes and didn't have any idea what kind it was or how big it was, but others said it was a passenger jet. It was about this time that Doug looked at the picture. 2. When Doug put the disc in his computer, I got my first really good view of the pictures I had taken. Nothing was done to the pictures other than him sending them to 40/29. He gave the disc back to me and I put it in my bag. Nobody did anything with my camera, purse or the disc. 3. When I compared my original photo on my own computer with the pictures which appeared in papers, magazines, books and on television, to the best of my knowledge then and now, they are the same picture. Some were cropped tall and some landscaped when used by different newspapers. There are some pretty serious copyright laws dealing with this type thing, and I totally don't think AP did anything to alter the images. Remember, though, that just about anybody can alter an image and pass it off as real. For instance, the one of me holding my camera with words something like "9/11 is a lie" on the display screen is a good example. Why would anybody put any stock on any picture of me holding my camera with some weird image inserted into its screen? ie, the one of the smoking towers taken from the Jersey side. The towers were not standing when I was on the Jersey side and I, ME, CARMEN could not and did not take that picture and the photographer from AP who took my picture would have no reason to photoshop it. 4. EvilUSA also said: "I've never been to that part of NYC, however Battery Park still seems like a long way from WTCII. How far would you say it is?" Further than I thought, but close enough that people from the Towers would stroll into the Park to eat lunch outside. Did not seem far as I was walking around earlier that morning and on Monday. It's late. tgc, c
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shure
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May 6 2009, 11:05 AM
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Jeff...thank you and your friends. This has been a hard road for me...whatever i can do, just ask. Thank you all. Take good care, Carmen
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May 6 2009, 02:44 PM
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Carmen, if you have not already, can you please give us a detailed timeline of your movements on 9/11?
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May 6 2009, 02:50 PM
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Here's a timeline for you, KT: Answer my question.
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May 6 2009, 02:53 PM
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Great. First Genghis stalks me, then Kahl stalks me, now Chander is stalking me. This forum a full of stalkers.
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May 6 2009, 02:56 PM
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Not stalking, just asking a question - and I am entitled to an answer.
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May 6 2009, 03:52 PM
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Jeff... "forums" are a bit like battlefields with hidden mines I'm afraid will explode in my face. Doesn't garner a lot of confidence. Seems as though everyone is some kind of secret agent using code names and covert identities. The general mindset appears to be that might is right, but in the search for truth, that doesn't seem logical. Being louder or meaner or scarier doesn't change or "prove" the truth. Truth stays the same. Somebody, somewhere (those who made the truth) are enjoying this Divide-Confuse-Conquer mentality among those who should be working together to get the truth. Should I be scared because my identity is exposed if exposed identity is so dangerous? tgc c
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May 6 2009, 04:15 PM
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email from Prof.Jim Fetzer to Killtown:- Quote:
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KT,
What's the deal? Ben tells me that Simon is arguing that all of the footage from 9/11, including the destruction of the Twin Towers, was faked! I find that rather difficult to believe. In this case, there WERE thousands of cameras focused on the buildings and the manner in which they were taken out was widely broadcast--world wide, actually!
It's your forum, but it strikes me as very odd that Ben is being cut out of the discussion. I would appreciate it if you would reinstate him. In particular, I think Simon's argument is farfetched and ought to be opposed. Are you endorsing this one? I would like to know more about what's going on. I'm having a hard time with all this. Thanks!
Warm regards,
Jim
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May 6 2009, 05:19 PM
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I'd be cautious about that man(Fetzer)--for reasons I'll be forced to go into if Killtown and mates keep trolling me.
Still, good luck with being reinstated. It's obvious Killtown's taking the piss. Dunno why you'd want to go back though...
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May 6 2009, 06:07 PM
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Should I be scared because my identity is exposed if exposed identity is so dangerous? tgc c
Not at all, Carmen. The "dangerousness" argument is a pretext used exclusively by those who have something to hide and who want also to instill fear in anyone who is debating with themselves whether or not to start openly seeking the truth.
Thanks again for your help.
Edited by USA911, May 6 2009, 06:07 PM.
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May 6 2009, 06:13 PM
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Should I be scared because my identity is exposed if exposed identity is so dangerous? tgc c Only if people like Genghis or Col. Jenny Sparks are mad at you.
Edited by Killtown, May 6 2009, 06:13 PM.
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May 6 2009, 06:14 PM
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- May 6 2009, 02:53 PM
Great. First Genghis stalks me, then Kahl stalks me, now Chander is stalking me. This forum a full of stalkers. so go away.
that's what we're all waiting for
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May 6 2009, 10:44 PM
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This exchange with Carmen has been unbelievably informative. She is completely open minded and insightful as an honest woman.
Funny 'cause out of all your calls I had remembered her first call and thought she sounded "guilty" to me. I am glad she corrected my perception.
Interesting point by her about David Handschuh's angst when describing missing the "plane". It might be a misinterpretation on our part of a photojournalist who missed his big shot, along with the shock factor of what he and all the people near the wtc on 9/11 went through.
thank you carmen.
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