Welcome Guest [Log In] [Register]
Welcome to Pumpitout. We hope you enjoy your visit.

You're currently viewing our forum as a guest. This means you are limited to certain areas of the board and there are some features you can't use. If you join our community, you'll be able to access member-only sections, and use many member-only features such as customizing your profile, sending personal messages, and voting in polls. Registration is simple, fast, and completely free.


Join our community!


If you're already a member please log in to your account to access all of our features:

Username:   Password:
Add Reply
Carmen Taylor Answers Questions
Topic Started: Apr 23 2009, 05:01 AM (14,297 Views)
heidimarie

Debs, thanks...We close on the house Nov 24...so much to do.

TGC C
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Adam_Yauch
Member Avatar

i didnt know what "humint" was, so i googled a quote from what heidimarie posted and found it:

http://tinyurl.com/yzqrejr

but i also found another discussion, one i was worth sharing since it offered some worthier insights than the ones offerred at the humint blog:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x271714

i dont keep up with the joneses or the who's who of the noplanery-evrythingzfake world. but im guessing that the "spooked" posting at DU is the same guy from the humint blog. fortunately however, at DU there are some sane/credible rebuttles to spooked's position, specifically these 3:

http://tinyurl.com/yjf8zcr

http://tinyurl.com/yfulmkn

http://tinyurl.com/yf9swvg


the thread ends with innuendo posing as incredulity:

there must a been tons of people on that boat. where IS their footage? very suspicious.

its a valid question, but one that can have many innocent and unincriminating answers. just because hitherto unreleased potential footage of the event has not gone mainstream and or public, doesnt mean that such footage does not exist. nor does it indicate that such footage can't exist. it simply means its never been shared on any mass public scale, and for that there can be many innocent and unguilty-of-any-wrongdoing reasons. there is no rule anywhere that dictates that all captured footage of a major event has to be and IS going to be shared with mass-media or released (like on youtube), or else - the event itself is false or fraudulent.

it was a tragic and horrific event and many may have chosen, after seeing that plenty of other footage had already been shared and broadcast, to keep their footage to themselves. it is afterall a snuff film. it may be spectacular to see, but people died as a specific result of those few seconds of impact. so some people who filmed or photographed it may have concluded that there was enough footage out there already documenting the event for posterity and historical record, so their footage didnt need or have to be added to it.

Edited by Adam_Yauch, Oct 27 2009, 02:09 AM.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
shure
Member Avatar
Administrator
Your exactly right, just because we haven't seen it on the internet doesn't mean that there is not anymore pictures or video from people in the same area as Carmen and Michael. Besides, look what happens to anyone that posts anything, they automatically get attacked and harassed by despicable people. Many have said they wish they never took pictures or video because of the nasty things they have seen written about them on the internet.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
heidimarie

Jeff, Adam...

Just copying my comments from Pg 34:

"One of the issues of "who else took pictures" and the fact that the only pictures which seem to exist are from Mike and me do, in a way, have a logical explanation. We were both alone when we were photographing, ie, Mike's wife was on a lower deck and I didn't know anybody else on board, so neither one of us were comforting somebody else, being comforted, talking, or doing things normal people around people they know, would do.

How would someone explain to a friend, spouse, relative standing next to them, or rationalize to themselves, that they would rather take pictures of this horrible disaster that was instantly killing people instead of praying, screaming, running, protecting others around them, or standing still in stunned shock?"

I think photographing or videoing the "event" from Battery Park or anyplace close was less on the average person's mind than staying alive or simpling coping with the events. Also, a lot of people may have been thinking that they weren't where they were going yet, ie the Statue of Liberty, and still had their camera put away to save the batteries for later.

There is something that makes a person appear self-centered, uncaring, unemotional, commercial, in-humane, etc., about taking pictures of a disaster rather than taking care of loved ones around you and yourself. This reaction is what causes a lot of people to push away or resent professional photojournalists in times of disaster and heartache.

How many times can you think back and remember when you DIDN'T take a picture when you had a camera with you?

Personally, I'm not surprised at the lack of pictures...for all the reasons everyone has brought up.

Also, whether or not you agree with Mike Walter's film, Breaking News Breaking Down, relative to the events of 911, he brings out the serious issue of physical and emotional breakdown photojournalists deal with in their profession. It's very hard for professionals, and almost impossible for amateurs...

tgc c

Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
RasgaSaias
Member Avatar

Here's something for the disgusting people like Killtown, Simon Shack, Fred, Jim Fetzer et al who constantly imply that Carmen and Hezarkhani are perps and liars.

Watch the following video and pause at the minute 3:34.



You'll see this view from the top of a ferry:

Posted Image

Are the trees too small? Is the view impossible? Or is this a fake video too?

Posted Image

You creeps should get a better excuse next time.
Because you have been exposed numerous times as the ones who are full of deception.

Oh, and don't forget to compare the buildings position and tell everyone they don't match. Like you liars always do. Pretending that perspective and parallax don't matter.
But they don't match precisely because the ferry from this video is eastward from the one where Carmen and Hearkhani watched the plane hit the south tower.
Edited by RasgaSaias, Oct 30 2009, 10:25 AM.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
RasgaSaias
Member Avatar

Carmen,

When you have the time can you please have a look at the following pictures and try to point the places from you remember taking pictures?

Posted Image
Full size

Posted Image
Full size

Posted Image
Full size

We're just trying to figure the exact locations. Don't worry if you're not sure. Jut give it a try.

Also. Does this place seems familiar to you?

Posted Image
Full size

Could it be the place from where you took some of the pictures?

Thanks!


Edited by RasgaSaias, Oct 31 2009, 09:56 AM.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
achimspok

Thanks Rasga, that's a nice view of the upper deck and the trees.
So we know it was a little west of pier 3.

Here you can see a No Planer who almost exactly found the right point but decided to go the wrong direction. He ended up at pier 3 where he saw just trees.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sElG-J3RlEs
Attention! I made that video as a parody but there are really some people out there who take it serious (even the claim that helicopter pilots are 4 meters tall).

Btw, the photo that was edited into the viewer
Posted Image
can be found at this page:
http://www.kisalfold.hu/vilagvevo/szeptember_11_-_egy_tulelo_visszaemlekezesei/2070142/
It was taken from north of WTC1 and that is probably no the way of the Ellis Island ferry.
Posted Image

Very interesting. I think that spook is the forger by himself. It fits just that fine like Markus Icke took graphics from this forum to turn the meaning upside down and posting new lies on his website even if he knows it better.
http://www.911research.dsl.pipex.com/ggua175/howard/
There is no excuse of an mistake or opinion or something like that. That is on purpose. It's a dirty job!

Has anyone a link to the killtown video Jim Fetzer mentioned? I couldn't find it.
Edited by achimspok, Nov 3 2009, 05:58 AM.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
RasgaSaias
Member Avatar

achimspok
Nov 2 2009, 08:39 AM
Has anyone a link to the killtown video Jim Fetzer mentioned? I couldn't find it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9_ZzzWp2yw

Prepare yourself to see bullsh!t like this:

Posted Image

This is the kind of "research" Jim Fetzer endorses.

Edited by RasgaSaias, Nov 2 2009, 02:22 PM.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
achimspok

Posted Image

LMAO

Is it really possible that killtown or even Fetzer believe such... What is it? ...a joke?
We should ask Matt! Where are all the photos of the Japanese tourists at all? ...and the Chinese as well?
...e.g. from WTC plaza. Usually there are a lot of tourists. Just one photo from the Basin? No photo from the statue? No photo from the moving bridge? No photo from the top of the Empire State? Just one photo from Park Row?

Oh, wait! Stand up at 7:30 in the morning? ...as a tourist? ...in the city that never sleeps? ...but the Statue of Liberty will still be there at 12:00.
And the observation deck on top of WTC2 was still closed at that time.

Where were all these tourists? AT BREAKFAST!
Even Mayor Giuliani was at breakfast near Central Park. And the ISI chief Mehmood Ahmed was at breakfast in the White House. And Wolfowitz and Rummi were at breakfast in the Pentagon...

It seems there are some questions of much more importance about who had breakfast where at that very moment.
Edited by achimspok, Nov 4 2009, 03:25 AM.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
RasgaSaias
Member Avatar

Killtown (behind a proxy and under the sock-puppet name "Zippy") and Jim Fetzer came here with some questions for Carmen Taylor.

One of their many strange and unnecessary questions was:
Killtown & Jim Fetzer
 
Did you see any other people in Battery Park taking photos of video of the burning WTC?
Of course there were more people taking pictures. Probably we haven't yet seen half of all the pictures taken that day.
Not everyone publishes their stuff on the internet.

Even though Matt found just another tourist who took pictures from the WTC.

http://web.archive.org/web/20070606210133/www.photos-september11.co.uk/story.htm

Of course Killtown and Jim Fetzer are probably going to pretend this tourist is lying or that he suffers from "false memory syndrome".

He says:
 
After a few minutes we heard, then saw, an aircraft heading towards us from over the river. The engines seemed to be roaring and we speculated for a moment that it might be some sort of rescue plane. I focused my camera on the second tower thinking that I might get a dramatic rescue photo as the plane passed by. However, we watched with horror as it crashed straight into the tower and exploded with a huge fireball - I took a photo instinctively, without registering what we had just witnessed. We were all very shocked and upset by what had happened, and could not really believe our eyes - as people commented later "it was just like watching a movie".

Maybe Jim Fetzer will say this man was at home watching TV and imagined everything. Just like he said in his last radio show.
Jim Fetzer
 
"People can think they saw something and retrospect what they didn't actually experience. I believe many of those who claim they saw the plane hit the building saw it on television. And they recall seeing it and they don't recall seeing it outside a room or watching it on the tube, when in fact that was how they saw it."

Edited by RasgaSaias, Nov 7 2009, 01:41 AM.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Matt
Member Avatar

Dang, Rasga. You saw that! Good job. I'm glad it can be seen here.

Posted Image
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Matt
Member Avatar

Posted Image

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPAXZDNb7-0#t=3m16s
"Ronald Segerius filmed the Twin Towers in New York"

Interesting comparison, that's all. No real look at the ferry, unfortunately.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
heidimarie

Hi, ya'll. Would like to add a link as to my position on 9/11, which I get from a most excellent source. This may not be posted correctly, but hopefully somebody will fix it for me. For the sake of authenticity, it was sent to me correctly, but my computer skills are questionable!

<http://maps.google.com/maps?oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&ie=UTF8&q=south+ferry+nyc&fb=1&gl=us&hq=South+Ferry&hnear=South+Ferry&cid=0,0,1095226395593582403&ei=1TcJS-naFtGnlAf-l5GtDA&ved=0CAoQnwIwAA&ll=40.703082,-74.016912&spn=0.002174,0.004128&t=h&z=19&iwloc=A>

http://maps.google.com/maps?oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&ie=UTF8&q=south+ferry+nyc&fb=1&gl=us&hq=South+Ferry&hnear=South+Ferry&cid=0,0,1095226395593582403&ei=1TcJS-naFtGnlAf-l5GtDA&ved=0CAoQnwIwAA&ll=40.703082,-74.016912&spn=0.002174,0.004128&t=h&z=19&iwloc=A

This is where you need to look for a good idea where my ferry was located.

Am trying to get us connected with someone who knows what he's talking about. I good guy. I'll keep my fingers crossed.

Best to everyone..

tgc c
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
YougeneDebs
Member Avatar

RasgaSaias
Oct 30 2009, 09:36 PM
Carmen,

When you have the time can you please have a look at the following pictures and try to point the places from you remember taking pictures?

Posted Image
Full size

Posted Image
Full size

Posted Image
Full size

We're just trying to figure the exact locations. Don't worry if you're not sure. Jut give it a try.

Also. Does this place seems familiar to you?

Posted Image
Full size

Could it be the place from where you took some of the pictures?

Thanks!


Carmen~ Thanks for your post! I can't wait to hear about that other info.

In the meantime, do any of those pictures from Rasga ring a bell?

Thanks!

Debs
[edit spelling]
Edited by YougeneDebs, Nov 23 2009, 12:07 AM.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Matt
Member Avatar

Posted Image

There it is credited to the wrong person. The explosion photo is below, but cut off.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
1 user reading this topic (1 Guest and 0 Anonymous)
ZetaBoards - Free Forum Hosting
Create your own social network with a free forum.
Learn More · Register for Free
Go to Next Page
« Previous Topic · September 11, 2001 · Next Topic »
Add Reply