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| shure | Oct 16 2009, 01:07 AM Post #496 |
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They are in the trash where they belong and you are in the Drama Club. I'm sure Ronson will be joining you soon too
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| RasgaSaias | Oct 16 2009, 01:48 AM Post #497 |
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Yet he didn't mention the reasons why we changed our minds. He knew why. He saw most of the conversations first hand in Fetzer's mail list. And he has an account here. He can view all the threads and read in detail everything that changed. Maybe he thought it wasn't a good idea to mention the exact reasons, or it wouldn't look like a "pre-planned op" anymore. |
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| shure | Oct 16 2009, 01:57 AM Post #498 |
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Everybody loves a good Conspiracy! |
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| YougeneDebs | Oct 16 2009, 02:59 AM Post #499 |
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Carmen, thanks for responding. I’m glad you are okay. And you’re so cute for asking me to change the line of sight! But, really, I can’t; the lines of sight are based on the buildings in the picture. Sorry, but there’s nothing I can do about it (a few feet left or right, maybe; a few hundred feet would be unreasonable). Please let me re-assure you that I believe you remember being on pavement in line to board the ferry! I’m sure you were where you say you were. Which means that we have a genuine mystery on our hands. Would you like to help solve it? I hope so! Debs |
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| JimFetzer | Oct 18 2009, 03:41 PM Post #500 |
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Carmen, These are just a few puffball background questions, nothing that isn't going to have an easy and obvious answer. Another student of 9/11 and I have been discussing them. In the Killtown video, it showed another tour boat leaving at 8:30. Did you happen to see this boat leave? Did you happen to see this boat dock after finishing its tour? Did anyone of that boat capture any footage of the burning WTC? You took some photos of the burning north tower while you were walking through Battery Park. Did you see any other people in Battery Park taking photos of video of the burning WTC? Did Mr. Hezarkhani take any video while he was strolling through the park? Was there a line to the boat you boarded? Did you see these people in line taking photos or video of the north tower burning? Do you take any photos of anything while you were in line for the boat that would prove you were in line for the boat? Did anybody in your group have cameras or video cams? Did they take footage of the burning WTC? How many people do you estimate where on the boat along with you and Mr. Hezarkhani? How would you describe how full your tour boat was; light, medium, full? Was anyone in your group on the boat too? Do you have any photographic evidence that you were on the boat? Battery Park is a very popular tourist attraction and I would think lots of them would have their cameras. In any case, thanks for taking the time to answer these questions. I appreciate that you are willing to participate here and that Jeff is featuring you. |
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| RasgaSaias | Oct 18 2009, 04:13 PM Post #501 |
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Hey Jim, nice team work! You're so kind for coming here right after some sock-puppets attempts of mudding the waters failed. But you guys could at least read the whole thread first. There's a lot of information provided by Carmen Taylor in it. It has 34 pages for a reason, you know? By the way Jim, since you're here, I'd like to take the opportunity to clarify some issues with you, if you don't mind. "These are just a few puffball background questions, nothing that isn't going to have an easy and obvious answer." 1- Do you share the opinion that Carmen Taylor is a liar? Your fellow "students" are spreading that idea through the whole internet. Do you support that kind of activity? Why instead of teaming with them you don't ask them to stop harassing people like Carmen? 2- Do you have any specific idea about what happened in 9/11 when you promote stuff in your radio-shows? You seem a little bit lost. You constantly jump from fake videos to real videos to holograms and so on in a single show. You recently even called video fakery to a real video scenario. What's with that? 3- Have you and Jack White already retracted the debunked claim about the FBI planting the engine section at the Church & Murray corner? 4- Can you already name the top 5 evidences for video fakery? I'm not asking you to quote your "experts" and I don't want you to write a confusing wall of text. I just want to see a short topic list of evidence. The last time I tried this with you, you sent me a broken false list and kept avoiding me for some reason. Thanks in advance for all the possible answers! Edited by RasgaSaias, Oct 18 2009, 06:00 PM.
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| shure | Oct 18 2009, 06:22 PM Post #502 |
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Wow Jim, I wouldn't have expected this from you, but somehow it doesn't shock me since you do tend to sourround yourself with shaddy characters. Its too bad you just brushed off the chance to have Carmen on your show after she agreed to do it. You could have asked her anything you wanted. I guess the people you have on are more important than someone that was actually there. I'm sure Carmen will do her best to answer the questions she hasn't already answered as best she can. By the way when are you going to have a physicicts on your show to corroborate your understanding of impossible physics. Being a professor yourself, surely you don't have a problem finding someone do you? |
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| RasgaSaias | Oct 18 2009, 08:42 PM Post #503 |
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Maybe having someone who actually saw and photographed the plane in his radio-show testifying as a real witness isn't good for the business. |
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| broken sticks | Oct 19 2009, 04:50 AM Post #504 |
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have you even read this thread as part of your thorough research? how is carmen going to know what was captured by everyone on her own tour boat, let alone a boat she wasn't even on?! see: common sense. oh, because that would really stick out in the memory, right? planes are hitting buildings, people are saying the country is under attack, and you wanted carmen to go around taking names?! see: common sense. isn't this a question for Mr. Hezarkhani? at what point do you think he was "strolling through the park"? was this before or after plane's were flying into buildings? do you expect anyone near the towers to be "strolling" around after 9am on 911? again, have you even read carmen's thread? if you have honest questions for carmen, why would you not read through that thread? would you like her to have documented the towers, or would you prefer she documented the tourists? i personally am extremely thankful she chose the towers, but then, its only logical that she did. did you get some common sense yet? you already know of two that did. would you expect someone in carmen's position to see a tourist with a camera and think "omg! a tourist with a CAMERA! how very strange!! i must remember that, amidst the chaos... yeah, lets not worry about my life, lets look out for normal everyday occurrences!" try reading the thread again. and try getting some common sense. erm, the picture of flight 175?! please tell me you've seen it. its quite a famous photo. it also documents her position at the time. if you'd like any of us here to thoroughly explain the anomalies you have let killtown convince you of, we would be happy to do so. but that wouldn't make as explosive a radio show for you, i guess, so i'm sure you aren't interested. but you never know. you seem to at least like a mix of viewpoints on 911. maybe you'll allow someone on your show to thoroughly debunk no-planes? btw, you have exactly the same questions, spelling mistakes, and grammatical errors (exactly the same) as a user called zippy who was recently here. are you the same person, or were you sent these questions? |
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| RasgaSaias | Oct 19 2009, 06:54 AM Post #505 |
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I happen to have a print screen from those posts. Here's the post from the person posting with a different name and suspiciously hiding behind a proxy: ![]() And here's Jim Fetzer copying and pasting the exact same thing: ![]() Why wold anyone create a false identity to post simple questions? Why hide behind a proxy? And most important, why would Jim Fetzer team up with someone like that? They must know each other. So could this mean "Zippy" is in fact one of Fetzer's fellow 9/11 "students" and that's why Jim immediately came posting the same thing in his place? Then why did "Zippy" lie? Why did he say he just read a blog and came here making innocent questions when he's probably the author of the video he quoted? Why do all these people lie so much? What's with all the dishonesty? There must be a reason. Edited by RasgaSaias, Oct 19 2009, 09:09 AM.
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| heidimarie | Oct 24 2009, 08:09 AM Post #506 |
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Hi friends...Good to have you watcing my back...my husband and I are in the process of moving...work has been hectic...and I'm going to have to change my e-mail address...and on and on...so a lot of things have been neglected. I had a few minutes and a good cup of coffee this morning before work and decided to visit ya'll... One of the issues of "who else took pictures" and the fact that the only pictures which seem to exist are from Mike and me do, in a way, have a logical explanation. We were both alone when we were photographing, ie, Mike's wife was on a lower deck and I didn't know anybody else on board, so neither one of us were comforting somebody else, being comforted, talking, or doing things normal people around people they know, would do. How would someone explain to a friend, spouse, relative standing next to them, or rationalize to themselves, that they would rather take pictures of this horrible disaster that was instantly killing people instead of praying, screaming, running, protecting others around them, or standing still in stunned shock? Debs...you're funny, too! I didn't mean to imply that you could just change the position line to anywhere. I do know that all of you (well, you know who I mean) are using some very reliable, scientific and mathematical applications, but I can suggest a reason which might change the position a little bit: When I'm taking pictures and can't move about freely, perhaps somebody close to me on one side, an obstruction nearby (bench, fence, whatever) or I'm steadily braced against something, instead of moving or completely turning my body, I'll simply angle the camera differently, maybe up to 45 degrees and tilt it up or down. I'm NOT a professional photographer, and this may not be the best way to do it, and I don't know if this would actually make it more difficult to judge my position, but... As to being on the grass: The green areas were very well kept and the park is designed for "lines" to be organized prior to boarding and for walking around. I absolutely hate to walk on grass in the morning when there is dew on the ground, and THINK I would have been aware of being on wet grass before the first plane hit. After we got off the ferry, I have absolutely no idea if I was on grass or not. Hope this helps ya'll... Have a nice weekend, and TGC, C Edited by heidimarie, Oct 24 2009, 08:16 AM.
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| YougeneDebs | Oct 24 2009, 11:29 PM Post #507 |
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Thanks, Carmen, for helping out! I’m sure the Mystery will be solved if we all put our heads together. I’m glad you thought of ‘camera tilt,’ so did I. Camera tilt will have to be dismissed, though, as the following pictures demonstrate. The first pic shows the view from Point A when we can clearly see the west side of the Athletic Club. The second pic shows the view from Point B when we can clearly see the east side of the same Athletic Club. These pictures demonstrate that a person (any person) standing at Point A simply can’t see the east side of the Athletic Club. Is this a better way of describing the Mystery? What do you think? View from Point A: ![]() View from Point B: ![]() Edited by YougeneDebs, Oct 24 2009, 11:32 PM.
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| heidimarie | Oct 25 2009, 10:29 PM Post #508 |
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Debs...guess I just don't know how to help very much. After the first plane hit, other than a little milling around in the same area, we didn't move much until we were directed to board the ferry. Granted, I could have moved around more than I thought, and I'm open to most any possibility. Of course, "any possibility" would have to begin with the fact that I took these pictures with my camera as an innocent witness while in Battery Park and on a ferry. I really do appreciate your work and your patience with me and don't want you or anybody to think I'm trying to lead you to a particular conclusion. Go where the truth takes you. Take good care, C |
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| heidimarie | Oct 25 2009, 11:10 PM Post #509 |
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This is what not being able to sleep accomplishes: I copied and pasted the following from a recent Humint post. Most of you may have seen it. Kind of funny, but it seems like they've finally figured out that we work for Intel. Instead of using our "secret website" since the cat's out of the bag, I'll just go ahead and ask ya'll if you think we'll get a cost of living pay increase on our next government checks. Working for government intelligence does have its perks. Here is where they figured out who we work for. Hope Intel isn't mad at us. SATURDAY, OCTOBER 10, 2009 Carmen Taylor's Story Doesn't Add Up Carmen's words from here: No feeling of the plane arriving too soon. I was watching it and had the feeling which I’ve described in one of my original essay’s “…I mechanically tracked the airplane with my peripheral vision and centered my attention on the viewfinder as the plane traveled its low, precise course which lined up perfectly with the South Tower of the World Trade Center.” It was almost rhythmic, dependable in the way it happened—which is ultimately exactly what allowed me to be able to take the picture. The plane did what I thought it would do when I though it would do it. This is also difficult for me to understand. I could not have set up for and taken the picture of 175 if it had flown into the tower from behind me and over my head. After taking picture #17, there was a lapse of 2 minutes and 26 seconds (from 3:07:12 to 3:09:38) until I took #18 (the plane). That doesn’t mean I was immediately aware of the plane right after 3:07:12, just that it was sometime after that when I “felt/heard” 175 and began thinking about and setting up the shot. Simply put, this makes no sense, it doesn't fit with the official plane path, and also begs the question of why she was expecting the plane and setting up the shot. If she was facing the tower from the south, which she was according to her photos, the plane DID come from behind her and over her according to the official videos. There's no way she could have tracked the plane in her peripheral vision. Her whole story is nonsensical and bizarre, and is likely a clever intel op. My previous post on Taylor is here, with some interesting comments that should be read. It's funny -- she could have simply said she got incredibly lucky with her shot. But instead, she comes up with this cockamamie story about tracking the plane and expecting it. It's TOO MUCH!!! POSTED BY SPOOKED AT 10:40 AM 3 COMMENTS: camjnbp said... is likely a clever intel op ha ha it is not even clever it is so stupid that it must be a perp taunt. 9:35 PM spooked said... good point though most of the people at Pumpitout seem fooled enough by her enough they are intel too-- which I can't rule out Carmen seems rather friendly with them, that is for sure 7:36 AM No Remorse said... Most of those at perpitout are singing from the same script as 'heidi. 'She' was also very friendly with Jeff, it's what they call a 'honey pot'. |
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| YougeneDebs | Oct 26 2009, 12:06 AM Post #510 |
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Carmen~ You’re doing fine. And no worries. I certainly don’t want you to feel pressured in any way. Besides, there is a lot going on in your life right now, what with moving and all. I’m sure you were at Point A taking pictures before you got on the ferry. Don’t let ‘Spooked’ bother you; he just raises questions without even trying to resolve them! And if he ever steps foot in here, I’ve got a nice ‘consolation prize’ for him all ready to go! You just do what you need to do. This small mystery will get resolved sooner or later. Be Well, Debs |
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