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Topic Started: Apr 23 2009, 05:01 AM (14,308 Views)
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heidimarie
Jul 14 2009, 10:20 AM

The latest images ya'll have pulled from the internet (the mirrors link) are as good as any I've ever seen and for research probably can't be equaled. To just "prove" something to somebody who can't be satisfied is no reason for me to make and send copies, but, as you mentioned, I do need to make some more backups. Relative to your concern for the safety of the originals, I appreciate your urging me to act. I will follow through. Thank you.

I also have some photos I received back in 2006 beginning 9-12 and 9-22-2001 which have some arial shots of ground zero and surrounding streets and buildings. What are the street intersections and direction from the towers of the location where the "plane part" hit? I'll send pictures of the area if I have them.


Hi Carmen,

Excellent news - and personally i think we'll see that exact copies of the originals are indeed on that website mirror we found earlier in the thread (the file sizes and filenames look like they are copies of the original).

As for other photos, omg, the more the better, yes please! The engine we've been debating (and damage to a building) is on Church and Murray, but any random shots of buildings would be great to see.

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heidimarie

B Sticks...I just sent Jeff four shots which I think are in the direction of Church and Murray. I'll also post this note on the correct thread.

You guys are great! tgc C
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spooked911

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Jul 10 2009, 08:38 AM
"beyond any reasonable doubt"

Spooked,

Nothing you listed above comes close to proving "beyond any reasonable doubt"
that Michael Hezerkhani faked his video, or that the video itself is fake ..
just that the plane and explosion are curious.
The others (1 & 2) are complete conjecture on what you think his movements
should have been...

If the 'hologram technology' ends up being the case ...
Then your points are accounted for and Hez is not a perp,
just a person w/ a camera.

I started thinking about why Hez was so cold on the phone and why
he said that curious statement that his lawyer & CNN said he couldn't
talk about the video ...

Imagine you are him and you know that countless numbers of people
are on the internet out there saying you were part of 9/11 ...
Then the phone rings and someones wants to start to ask you questions about
it w/o you knowing you were going to be contacted. Might be uncomfortable.
I think we need to consider both alternatives rather than
jumping to the conclusion that he is a video faker - perp.

Perhaps after seeing the treatment Carmen is getting here,
he would be willing to at least answer some questions.
This would be progress, right?

ps - the "for starters" part at the end of your list is a bit misleading
since some of your points are already getting repetitious...
if you have more points you should add them.

pps - here is an episode on dynamic duo in which morgan reynolds had spooked on as a guest,
if anyone is interested. I'll have to give it another listen myself. I remember enjoying the discussion when it first aired. ;)

ppps - I have seen you say that Shure was a perp at your site,
do you have any interest in retracting that statement here?
Perhaps clarifying what you mean if you still believe this.

peace.
I disagree that my points do not point to video fakery--
some anomalies are about the plane and the bldg interaction, but there are still clear signs of fakery:
1) the discontinuous white shadows as the plane goes in
2) the cartoonish aspect of the plane

The tracking movements I consider as signs of fakery, as I have tried filming a plane flying overhead with a video camera and it is just not that easy to locate the plane and track it in a camera viewfinder.

There are a couple of other points about the video that I consider suspicious but it is too much trouble to write it out and not really important.

The bottom line is-- given everything we know about 9/11 and the other 2nd hit videos, I say beyond any "reasonable" doubt, the video is faked in some way.

I haven't been one to say Hez is a perp. He could have been used in some way. His not talking on the phone is normal, but the line about CNN not allowing him to talk about it, is not.

I would be thrilled if Hez came here and answered questions as nicely as Carmen. I just want answers, and I really am harmless.

As far as calling Shure a perp, first- I think "perp" is misleading. I don't think I ever called him a "perp". "Anonymous Physicist", who writes regularly for my blog, thinks Jeff is an intel agent. He thinks Jeff's phone calls are all set ups-- done under orders by intel agencies.

I don't know what to make of the phone calls except that they are very strange in their entirety. My experience in trying to get hold of people involved in 9/11 and getting them to talk is that it is very hard. So either Jeff is very very persistent, or he is very lucky, or someone is ordering these people to talk to Jeff.

I did call Jeff an agent once, because of a very strange phone call he made to a guy (David Handschuh maybe?) when Jeff was cursing and drunk and late at night. Basically I found it extremely strange that Handschuh kept answering the phone and not really losing his temper-- I thought in a way, this proved a conspiracy, as I could not imagine normal person acting like this person when a drunken stranger is calling and cursing at him.

Jeff emailed me and said he wasn't an agent, and asked me to change the post. Which I did.

All I know is that these phone calls are very strange! THEY ARE EXTREMELY INTERESTING AND INFORMATIVE, but still very strange.
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Jul 14 2009, 08:25 PM

There are a couple of other points about the video that I consider suspicious but it is too much trouble to write it out and not really important.

The bottom line is-- given everything we know about 9/11 and the other 2nd hit videos, I say beyond any "reasonable" doubt, the video is faked in some way.

ur joking right?
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It wasn't Handschuh I called when I was drunk, it was Jay Maisel. I called him that night because for about a month he kept telling me he would call me back and never did. He finally did talk to me that night, but I know thats no excuse for being disrepectful and buging him.

Like I said before anyone can find any of the people I called and talk to them themselves!!!
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Jul 14 2009, 08:25 PM
I disagree that my points do not point to video fakery--
some anomalies are about the plane and the bldg interaction, but there are still clear signs of fakery:
1) the discontinuous white shadows as the plane goes in

The Cotsifas photo shows these as well. An interesting subject, i've not seen much on it.

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2) the cartoonish aspect of the plane


lol you're going to have to be a bit more precise. What would you expect compared to what you see in the video, on this aspect?

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The tracking movements I consider as signs of fakery


The camera was already pointing at the towers. Yes, it looks up to take in the plane. No, this is not difficult to do.

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I have tried filming a plane flying overhead with a video camera and it is just not that easy to locate the plane and track it in a camera viewfinder.


He was already pointing the camera at the towers though, right? Just like Carmen. Its not difficult to let a plane fly away from you and into shot.

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There are a couple of other points about the video that I consider suspicious but it is too much trouble to write it out and not really important.


LOL you're trying to wind us up, right?

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The bottom line is-- given everything we know about 9/11 and the other 2nd hit videos, I say beyond any "reasonable" doubt, the video is faked in some way.


No, i'm afraid you're wrong, but i've listened to that morgan reynolds show, i'm not expecting to change your mind or anything here man.

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I haven't been one to say Hez is a perp. He could have been used in some way. His not talking on the phone is normal, but the line about CNN not allowing him to talk about it, is not.


Hez saying that he's not allowed to talk about it, on advice from his lawyer, is indeed strange.
We should get Carmen on the case, find out the deal.

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So either Jeff is very very persistent, or he is very lucky, or someone is ordering these people to talk to Jeff.


Research is hard work spooked. Jeff's done lots and lots. Its not just persistence, there might be some luck involved along the way, but what exactly has he done that a perp would be proud of? Jeff asks questions man. That's what shows he's the real-deal.


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I don't know what to make of the phone calls except that they are very strange in their entirety.
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All I know is that these phone calls are very strange!


Good work and good results are obviously strangers to you spookay! lmaoatwh


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heidimarie
Jul 14 2009, 07:20 PM
B Sticks...I just sent Jeff four shots which I think are in the direction of Church and Murray. I'll also post this note on the correct thread.

You guys are great! tgc C


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Thanks Carmen ;)



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Thanks Carmen (and jeff for posting) - great photos! Where the hell did building 7 go?! lol

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heidimarie

B'Sticks...the only dates I could get on the above photos are 9-29-01. Taken by either the NYPD or NYFD. TGC C
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dutchskeptic

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Jul 10 2009, 08:38 AM
Nothing you listed above comes close to proving "beyond any reasonable doubt"
that Michael Hezerkhani faked his video, or that the video itself is fake ..
just that the plane and explosion are curious.


But what about the soundtrack of his footage? In his video we can clearly hear the sound of an "approaching plane", right?
If there were no (real) planes (which we both believe was the case) where did the sound of an approaching plane come from?
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heidimarie
Jul 14 2009, 07:20 PM
B Sticks...I just sent Jeff four shots which I think are in the direction of Church and Murray. I'll also post this note on the correct thread.

You guys are great! tgc C
Nice having people asking you questions like decent human beings, innit? Instead of treating you like a criminal like some I could mention, at a forum that will remain nameless---

;)
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heidimarie

Jenny...it has taken some time, but this group is encouraging and thoughtful. tgc C
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outsidethecave

hi heidimarie what camera do you use now?
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genghis6199

what a bizarre inane totally unecessary question.

i notice it conveniently buried the "barbie is a moron" threads.

i notice your join date is only one week different to barbies.

how interesting.

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heidimarie

Outside...Just a little Sony--family, home, birthday parties...tgc C
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