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| broken sticks | May 21 2009, 04:28 AM Post #151 |
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is there an estimation as to how far away this camera is, seat? (or anybody?) i haven't got to really studying CBS yet, but looking at the visible roofline of the east face of tower 2, i could have a reasonable shot at working out where the plane is |
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| seatnineb | May 21 2009, 08:23 AM Post #152 |
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dont know dude.... that camera could be zoomed in...or it could be its natural focal length. that camera could be located somewhere in the east village victor cruzate was a witness in the east village and here is a pic he tooK( he never saw the plane approach or hit(but he could have been looking elsewhere at the time
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| shure | May 21 2009, 10:25 AM Post #153 |
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| seatnineb | May 21 2009, 02:45 PM Post #154 |
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@Carmen Thanks very much for info...again appreciated. and no problem for sounding aurgumentative....it is difficult to express oneself in this medium...i am not very good at it myself! But I constructed a little map using google maps..which might help you...it shows the tip of lower manhattan and the hudson river...i have incorporated a compass depicting N,S,E and W. ![]() the dotted line is the approx approach trajectory of the plane as shown in variouse videos showing it hitting the building..... you can also see the north and south towers. Actually Looking at it from this arial angle ....it seems that your ferry was at a diagonal in relation to direct North....i drew a red band to depict this. the ferry was probably positioned in a north west-south east direction. I guess if you were looking at the towers and then turned your head round ..you would be facing south west or west.. But would you say that now seeing this map.......that the plane still approached from the north west? Thanks in advance Edited by seatnineb, May 21 2009, 05:07 PM.
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| broken sticks | May 21 2009, 05:24 PM Post #155 |
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carmen, and if possible, could you try and indicate whereabouts on its path to the tower you will have first seen the plane? thank you
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| shure | May 22 2009, 11:46 AM Post #156 |
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| broken sticks | May 22 2009, 12:27 PM Post #157 |
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hey jeff, i don't understand the diagram above the map sorry if i'm being dumb - i'll check back thru the thread |
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| shure | May 22 2009, 02:58 PM Post #158 |
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I don't understand it either! |
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| shure | May 23 2009, 03:19 AM Post #159 |
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I updated the other post above with the map showing the lines. When I was getting the email it was coming out all funky. Here it is here; ![]() |
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| seatnineb | May 23 2009, 04:01 AM Post #160 |
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Thanks Jeff + Carmen For me personally....I would say that Carmen's testimony conforms to what we see in most of the videos...i.e the final 6 seconds or so of the approach of the plane accross the hudson from the south west/westish direction. I think if we take perspective,perception and the shock of seeing something unexpected then I guess all those factors will be a contributing factor in that witnesses's account of when and where he/she saw that unexpected thing(the plane) @Carmen even though it happened very quickly....can you remember being able to discern what the colour of the underbelly of the plane was?. being a united airlines plane it should have been dark blue.... another prominent witness who i contacted in the summer of 2007 ...called Barry Drogin.... thinks the colour of the underbelly was white(he puts it down to false memory): I remember that the underside of the plane was white, when the video clearly shows it is not http://www.notnicemusic.com/911idiots.html Edited by seatnineb, May 23 2009, 04:21 AM.
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| seatnineb | May 23 2009, 04:36 AM Post #161 |
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In addition @ Carmen: there are witnesses who claim that the plane flew over the statue of liberty....which is on liberty island.....we can use that island as bench mark; ![]()
@Jeff Think you might find del giorno's account interesting |
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| shure | May 23 2009, 06:00 PM Post #162 |
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| seatnineb | May 24 2009, 06:34 PM Post #163 |
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@Carmen... This is the live footage from NY1: The arrow is pointing to the plane... The statue of liberty is on the island to the right underneath.....if anything....judging by this video...the plane was considerable distance above the statue... ![]() maybe the plane appeared as a speck to you because it was still at a relative high altitude.....and from your perspective on the ground.....it may have been difficult for you to see that it was actually in a shallow dive(by the time you saw it) |
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| genghis6199 | May 24 2009, 07:20 PM Post #164 |
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if the plane was a speck behind her, then she couldn't have seen it circle round from the north west. this is where the black low flying object will start to appear as a different object in peoples testimony. the people who were distracted during the process would convince themselves that the north west bogey, had turned into the speck from the sky, while they seren't looking. |
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| shure | May 24 2009, 08:36 PM Post #165 |
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