NASA Flight Director Confirms 9/11 Aircraft Speed As The "Elephant In The Room"

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NASA Flight Director Confirms 9/11 Aircraft Speed As The "Elephant In The Room"; PfT's headline article
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broken sticks	Jun 22 2010, 09:37 PM Post #1
Posts: 2,644 Group: Members Member #105 Joined: Jan 3, 2009	here's the link:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/911_Aircraft_Speed_Deets.html Dwain Deets The airplane was UA175, a Boeing 767-200, shortly before crashing into World Trade Center Tower 2. Based on analysis of radar data, the National Transportation and Safety Board reported the groundspeed just before impact as 510 knots. This is well beyond the maximum operating velocity of 360 knots, and maximum dive velocity of 410 knots. The possibilities as I see them are: (1) this wasn’t a standard 767-200; (2) the radar data was compromised in some manner; (3) the NTSB analysis was erroneous; or (4) the 767 flew well beyond its flight envelope, was controllable, and managed to hit a relatively small target. Which organization has the greater responsibility for acknowledging the elephant in the room? The NTSB, NASA, Boeing, or the AIAA? Have engineers authored papers, but the AIAA or NASA won’t publish them? Or, does the ethical responsibility lie not with organizations, but with individual aeronautical engineers? Have engineers just looked the other way? look at this guy's history: Dwain Deets NASA Dryden Flight Research Center (Senior Executive Service - retired) AIAA Associate Fellow MS Physics, MS Eng Former Director, Aerospace Projects, NASA Dryden Flight Research Center Served as Director, Research Engineering Division at Dryden Recipient of the NASA Exceptional Service Award Presidential Meritorious Rank Award in the Senior Executive Service (1988) Selected presenter of the Wright Brothers Lectureship in Aeronautics Associate Fellow - American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics (AIAA) Included in "Who's Who in Science and Engineering" 1993 - 2000 Former Chairman of the Aerospace Control and Guidance Systems - Committee of the Society of Automotive Engineers Former Member, AIAA Committee on Society and Aerospace Technology 37 year NASA career Now how the hell is this guy endorsing PfT? I mean, just because a 767 is not on record doing that before doesn't mean it didn't happen. The engine was the right engine FFS! Didn't they prove that on the C&M Engine thread? If it was the right engine, and the right shape plane, guess what PfT? It was the right type of plane! It doesn't prove OR disprove remote-pilotting, so that's option 1 nullified dwain. The plane DID do those speeds, so that's options 2 and 3 cancelled [edit. regarding the speed of the plane in these regards]. What does that leave, einstein?? Dwain Deets (4) the 767 flew well beyond its flight envelope, was controllable, and managed to hit a relatively small target. These PfT "endorsees", like Dwain Deets, are they just being tricked by PfT or getting shown a very selective bunch of "evidence" by them or something? Its weird. I wonder if he knows he's the headline article for thoroughly honest and decent business that is Pilots for 911 Truth. Just because they branded them "core" members, that doesn't mean they get together or even give a s* about 911 truth. Rob Balsamo probably sends someone a "statement" to sign or something whenever it suits them. Maybe they sent that to all their members with a bunch of other stuff and the recipients had to sign something and send it back to confirm their membership and they could have picked any of the people who responded to have as the name on this advert/news bulletin. Who knows. Add Dwain to the list of people i'd love to hear talk to jeff. Edited by broken sticks**, Jun 22 2010, 09:44 PM.



shure	Jun 22 2010, 09:49 PM Post #2
Administrator Posts: 6,257 Group: Administrator Member #1 Joined: Feb 13, 2008	It would be kind of har to talk to any of Rob Balsamo's "people" whe he sends out emails full of lies like this: Quote: Subject: A heads up... Friday, June 18, 2010 12:40 AM From: "Pilots For Truth" <pilotsfortruth@yahoo.com> View contact details To: "Jeff Latas", "Ralph Kolstad", "Ross F. Aimer", "Dwain Deets" Hi Guys, Just giving you a heads up that if you get a call from a guy named Jeff Hill, you are being recorded. For those unfamiliar (and a bit of background), Jeff Hill is the Canadian who made the call for us to the NTSB regarding their data, back in 2006. You can listen here... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPF4Lo4wkJ4 As you can tell from the above call, he doesn't have any aero knowledge. I asked him to make the call as we didn't have the resources at the time. Long story short, Jeff has since changed his position more rapidly than some people change their underwear. He has supported No Plane Theories... etc etc... spammed my Facebook page demanding we cover it... has been hostile... the list goes on... Now that he has been made a fool regarding NPT, he is on the rampage to support the govt story. He has attacked each of you (and me personally) on our forums claiming you are not the "professional you are cracked up to be" and that we are spreading disinformation in our presentations. Starts here if you're interested. http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.p...&p=10786814 I normally would not bother to give a heads up on such an idiot, but he is notorious for making harassing phone calls - recorded, and is pretty good at gathering contact information, even of those unlisted. Just an FYI. Call me if you would like more details. Hope you're all doing well. Regards, Rob http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=20169&view=findpost&p=10786837



broken sticks	Jun 23 2010, 04:49 AM Post #3
Posts: 2,644 Group: Members Member #105 Joined: Jan 3, 2009	omg, and he actually named Dwain Deets in the recipients?? they must have anticipated you calling someone like that and did a kind of "pre-emptive strike", because i'm sure they don't want you or someone like you to talk to these people about what they are backing. i mean, your calls are the least-harrassing interviews ever! and the fact that you change your opinion when new information comes to light should be applauded! tbh, i can see this message from Rob having the opposite effect if anyone reads it. they're going to look at what PfT do a bit more closely perhaps - if they read something like "claiming you are not the "professional you are cracked up to be" and that we are spreading disinformation in our presentations." might appeal to their intelectual side and take a look at what they're currently putting their names behind. well, maybe. lol don't believe the bull**** jeff - i bet they're scared you'll do the same to thing to them that you did to CIT. After all, CIT's theories are based on PfT's lies, and PfT's theories are based on CIT's lies. i still don't think these "core" members can be all they're made out to be, most probably didn't even read this builletin from balsamo. unless they're agents in some way, but that's quite unlikely.



broken sticks	Jun 24 2010, 07:51 PM Post #4
Posts: 2,644 Group: Members Member #105 Joined: Jan 3, 2009	Dwain Deets appears to be in AE911T as well. would be a good call i reckon.



broken sticks	Jun 24 2010, 07:58 PM Post #5
Posts: 2,644 Group: Members Member #105 Joined: Jan 3, 2009	Dwain Deets has been working on drone aircraft since the 70s! http://www.nasa.gov/centers/dryden/pdf/87854main_H-870.pdf



broken sticks	Jun 24 2010, 08:04 PM Post #6
Posts: 2,644 Group: Members Member #105 Joined: Jan 3, 2009	Dwain Deets profile on AE911T site: http://www2.ae911truth.org/profile.php?uid=998819



broken sticks	Jun 24 2010, 08:05 PM Post #7
Posts: 2,644 Group: Members Member #105 Joined: Jan 3, 2009	shure Jun 22 2010, 09:49 PM It would be kind of har to talk to any of Rob Balsamo's "people" whe he sends out emails full of lies like this: Quote: Subject: A heads up... To: "Jeff Latas", "Ralph Kolstad", "Ross F. Aimer", "Dwain Deets" i think its Kolstad who was on something like "In Plane Site" saying the shadow on 175 is unquestionably a "pod"....



broken sticks	Jun 24 2010, 08:09 PM Post #8
Posts: 2,644 Group: Members Member #105 Joined: Jan 3, 2009	Interview with Dwain Deets from AE911Truth mp3: http://world911truth.org/audio/RT-5%20Guest%20Dwain%20Deets.mp3 5-part youtube version (same audio interview - no video) http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=2BAB6B6AB990CEBA



shure	Jul 20 2010, 02:44 PM Post #9
Administrator Posts: 6,257 Group: Administrator Member #1 Joined: Feb 13, 2008	I was able to talk with Dwain Deets about the article and get some clarification on the plane issues. Link to conversation: http://s1.zetaboards.com/pumpitout/topic/3611382/



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