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Alan Wallace - Pentagon first responder
Topic Started: May 2 2010, 03:39 PM (12,103 Views)
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Phone call to Alan Wallace 05/02/10 (Mp3 download 57min19sec)

(Audio quality is not the best, but good enough.)

http://www.pumpitout.com/audio/aw_050210.mp3




Firefighter Alan Wallace, at the Pentagon heliport, was working on his truck when he saw flight 77 approach.

About 9:40, Alan Wallace had finished fixing the foam metering valve on the back of his fire truck parked in the Pentagon fire station and walked to the front of the station. He looked up and saw a jetliner coming straight at him. It was about 25 feet off the ground, no landing wheels visible, a few hundred yards away and closing fast.

"Runnnnn!" he yelled to a pal. There was no time to look back, barely time to scramble. He made it about 30 feet, heard a terrible roar, felt the heat, and dove underneath a van, skinning his stomach as he slid along the blacktop, sailing under it as though he were riding a luge. The van protected him against burning metal that was flying around.

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A few seconds later he was sliding back out to check on his friend and then race back to the firetruck. He jumped in, threw it into gear, but the accelerator was dead. The entire back of the truck was destroyed, the cab on fire. He grabbed the radio headset and called the main station at Fort Myer to report the unimaginable.

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Alan Wallace usually worked out of the Fort Myer fire station, but on Sept. 11 he was one of three firefighters assigned to the Pentagon's heliport. Along with crew members Mark Skipper and Dennis Young, Wallace arrived around 7:30 in the morning. After a quick breakfast, the 55-year-old firefighter moved the station's firetruck out of the firehouse. President Bush had used the heliport the day before: he'd motorcaded to the Pentagon, then flown to Andrews Air Force Base for a trip to Florida. Bush was scheduled to return to the Pentagon helipad later on Tuesday, Wallace says. So Wallace wanted the firetruck out of the station before Secret Service vehicles arrived and blocked its way. He parked it perpendicular to the west wall of the Pentagon. Wallace and Skipper were walking along the right side of the truck (Young was in the station) when the two looked up and saw an airplane. It was about 25 feet off the ground and just 200 yards away-the length of two football fields. They had heard about the WTC disaster and had little doubt what was coming next. "Let's go," Wallace yelled. Both men ran. Wallace ran back toward the west side of the station, toward a nine-passenger Ford van. "My plans were to run until I caught on fire," he says. He didn't know how long he'd have or whether he could outrun the oncoming plane. Skipper ran north into an open field. Wallace hadn't gotten far when the plane hit. "I hadn't even reached the back of the van when I felt the fireball. I felt the blast," he says. He hit the blacktop near the left rear tire of the van and quickly shimmied underneath. "I remember feeling pressure, a lot of heat," he says. He crawled toward the front of the van, then emerged to see Skipper out in the field, still standing. "Everything is on fire. The grass is on fire. The building is on fire. The firehouse is on fire," Wallace recalls. "There was fire everywhere. Areas of the blacktop were on fire." Wallace ran over to Skipper, who said he was OK, too. They compared injuries-burned arms, minor cuts, scraped skin. He ran back into the station to try to suit up. But he found debris everywhere. The ceiling had crumbled, there were broken lights and drywall everywhere. His boots were on fire. His fire pants filled with debris. The fire alarm was blaring.Then Wallace heard someone call from outside. "We need help over here," someone yelled. He ran back outside over to the Pentagon building and helped lower people out of a first-floor window, still some six feet off the ground. He helped 10 to 15 people to safety. Most could walk, though he helped carry one badly burned man. "He wasn't too responsive," Wallace recalls. He helped two other men drag him to the other side of the heliport then he turned around. "I've got to go back," he said. Working with a civilian, Wallace headed back to the building. He could hear more cries for help from inside. There was trash and debris everywhere. The trees were on fire. Wallace headed into the building through an open door, but couldn't find anyone else to save. "After a while I didn't hear anybody calling anymore," he says. "They probably found another way out."
http://www.msnbc.com/news/635293.asp

About 9:40, Alan Wallace had finished fixing the foam metering valve on the back of his fire truck parked in the Pentagon fire station and walked to the front of the station. He looked up and saw a jetliner coming straight at him. It was about 25 feet off the ground, no landing wheels visible, a few hundred yards away and closing fast. "Runnnnn!" he yelled to a pal. There was no time to look back, barely time to scramble. He made it about 30 feet, heard a terrible roar, felt the heat, and dove underneath a van, skinning his stomach as he slid along the blacktop, sailing under it as though he were riding a luge. The van protected him against burning metal that was flying around. A few seconds later he was sliding back out to check on his friend and then race back to the firetruck. He jumped in, threw it into gear, but the accelerator was dead. The entire back of the truck was destroyed, the cab on fire. He grabbed the radio headset and called the main station at Fort Myer to report the unimaginable. The sun was still low in the sky, obscured by the Pentagon and the enormous billowing clouds of acrid smoke, making it hauntingly dark. The ground was on fire. Trees were on fire. Hot slices of aluminum were everywhere. Wallace could hear voices crying for help and moved toward them. People were coming out a window head first, landing on him. He had faced incoming fire before -- he was with the hospital corps in Vietnam when mortars and rocket shells dropped on the operating room near Da Nang -- but he had never witnessed anything of this devastating intensity.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A38407-2001Sep15

The morning of Sept. 11 was crystal clear in Washington, still summer warm. It would be easy to relax on a morning like that, but outside the Pentagon, firefighter Alan Wallace and the safety crew at the Pentagon's heliport pad already were too busy. President Bush was scheduled to fly from Florida that afternoon, and his helicopter, Marine One, would carry him to the Pentagon. Secret Service was everywhere and their cars blocked the driveway. So the meticulous Wallace moved the fire truck out of the way, parking it about 15 feet from the Pentagon. That's when Wallace got a call from his chief at nearby Fort Myer telling him of the attacks in New York and to be on alert. Minutes later, Wallace and his buddy Mark Skipper looked up and saw the gleam of a silver jetliner. But it was flying too low. Maybe less than 25 feet off the ground. And it was heading right at them. "I yelled to Mark, 'Let's go!' " He bolted to the right, and a second later felt the searing heat of the blast behind him. He hit the ground and rolled under a parked van as a fire engulfed his fire truck, then blew through the firehouse. Wallace got back to his feet, saw Skipper had escaped, then rushed to the scorched fire truck to see if it would run, but the truck only belched fire. It wouldn't move. So Wallace switched on the truck's radio. "Foam 61 to Fort Myer," he said. "We have had a commercial carrier crash into the west side of the Pentagon at the heliport, Washington Boulevard side. The crew is OK. The airplane was a 757 Boeing or a 320 Airbus." Although he was still frantic and shaken, Wallace's report turned out to be painfully accurate. (...) With bits of cloth and fiberglass still raining down outside the blackened section of the Pentagon, Alan Wallace's instincts focused on trying to help somehow. The truck was useless. So he dashed for his gear inside the torched firehouse. His boots were filled with debris. His suspenders were on fire. Wallace and two other firefighters rushed to a window, where Pentagon employees were crammed together, frantic to escape the darkness. Fire burst through the windows above them. The ground burned near Wallace with heat so hot he thought several times that his pants were on fire. They began grabbing arms and pulling people out - 15 in all. " They were all burned," Wallace said. But there wasn't time for Wallace and the other firefighters to get emotional. "We just seemed to stay in one mode there until we ran out of people coming out," Wallace said. And no one was sure how many more remained inside.
http://216.239.37.100/search?q=cache:ZEjNHqH0gLoC:www.gosanangelo.com/archive/02/september/11/2002091114.shtml+%22I+yelled+to+Mark%22+Wallace&hl=en&ie=UTF-8


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Alan Wallace was a participant or observer in the following events:
8:30 a.m. September 11, 2001: Preparations Underway at Pentagon for President Bush’s Arrival Later in the Day

http://www.historycommons.org/entity.jsp?entity=alan_wallace

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Preparations are underway at the Pentagon heliport, located about 150 feet from the west side of the building, for the expected arrival of President Bush at around midday. Bush had left from the Pentagon the previous day for his visit to Florida. He occasionally uses the Pentagon heliport rather than the White House grounds when going by helicopter to and from Air Force One at Andrews Air Force Base.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0160783283/centerforcoop-20

The White House grounds are unavailable because the annual congressional picnic is scheduled to take place there this afternoon. The White House hosts this event for members of Congress and select staffers; around 1,200 guests are due to attend, until the attacks lead to it being canceled.
http://web.archive.org/web/20011122225311/http://www.cincypost.com/2001/sep/11/food091101.html

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0471798428/centerforcoop-20/

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0060723467/centerforcoop-20/

Three firefighters from the fire department at nearby Fort Myer had arrived at the Pentagon at around 7:30 a.m. to man the fire station next to the heliport.
http://web.archive.org/web/20040526034459/http://msnbc.msn.com/id/3069699/

http://info.jems.com/911/pdf/jems0402.pdf

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0160783283/centerforcoop-20

One of them, Alan Wallace, decides to pull the fire truck out of the fire station and place it in a position more accessible to the heliport landing pad.
http://web.archive.org/web/20030417074321/http://www.oapff.com/first-due.htm

The truck is equipped with the special chemical foam used in fighting jet fuel fires.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0160783283/centerforcoop-20

Wallace parks it about 15 feet from the Pentagon’s west wall, facing towards the landing pad. Wallace later recalls that, with many vehicles—belonging to the Secret Service and other agencies—expected to be around for the president’s arrival, “I wanted the crash truck out of the station and parked in a good location, for easy access to the heliport in case of an emergency.”
http://web.archive.org/web/20030417074321/http://www.oapff.com/first-due.htm

When the Pentagon is hit at 9:37, the aircraft will crash into an area of the building next to the heliport (see 9:37 a.m. September 11, 2001).
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2001/09/11/pentagon-usat.htm

http://www.defenselink.mil/news/NewsArticle.aspx?ID=734

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(9:20 a.m.) September 11, 2001: Fire Chief Warns Firefighters at Pentagon that Washington Could be Target for Attack
http://www.historycommons.org/entity.jsp?entity=alan_wallace

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A fire chief calls his firefighters who are manning the fire station at the Pentagon’s heliport, and warns them that there could be more attacks, and Washington could be a target.
http://web.archive.org/web/20030417074321/http://www.oapff.com/first-due.htm

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0891419055/centerforcoop-20

Chief Charles Campbell works with the fire department at Fort Myer, an army base 1.5 miles northwest of the Pentagon, which sends three of its firefighters each day to man the fire station at the Pentagon heliport. http://www.dcmilitary.com/dcmilitary_archives/stories/110201/11746-1.shtml

Campbell calls the station to make sure his firefighters there—Alan Wallace, Mark Skipper, and Dennis Young—are aware of what is going on in New York. He tells them, “These were intentional acts of terrorism.” He speaks “to each of the three firefighters, making sure they [are] all on their toes and ready to respond to an unexpected incident.” Wallace will recall that Campbell “wanted to be sure we were aware of everything going on around the fire station.” Campbell says there could be more attacks, and that “If it had happened in New York, it could happen in Washington.” As Wallace recalls, Campbell says “Washington, DC could very well be a target and if that happened, our fire truck could be dispatched to an incident.”
http://web.archive.org/web/20030417074321/http://www.oapff.com/first-due.htm

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0891419055/centerforcoop-20

Yet, while Campbell believes an attack on Washington is likely, neither the Pentagon nor any government buildings in Washington will be evacuated before the Pentagon is hit at 9:37 (see Before 9:37 a.m. September 11, 2001 and Before 9:37 a.m. September 11, 2001).
http://www.cnn.com/2001/US/09/16/inv.flat.foot/

The Fort Myer firefighters will narrowly escape suffering serious injuries when the Pentagon attack occurs (see 9:37 a.m. September 11, 2001).
http://www.dcmilitary.com/dcmilitary_archives/stories/110201/11746-1.shtml




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Great stuff, Jeff! And Mr Wallace is a "South of Citgo" flight path witness! Play it from 19:00 vrt and frorward; he mentions the green freeway signs near the clover leaf.

The CIT and the so-called "Fly-over/Fly-by Theory" are finished.

I love it when Jeff calls!


(ETA: I used the word 'finished' instead of the other term; and corrected verb tense.)
Edited by YougeneDebs, May 3 2010, 06:38 AM.
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Thanks Debs!

I made a post on pilots that Craig responded to:

http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=19971


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Hey Shure are you just going to leave your post as is over at P4T?

[quote name='shure' date='May 3 2010, 07:54 PM' post='10785201']
I was thanking debs for the compliment! Just because other people post stuff on my forum doesn't mean I believe it. I have seen all the evidence for all the issues and haven't made up my mind yet as to what I believe about anything.
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Thanking Debs for saying

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The CIT and the so-called flyover/flyby theory are finished


On the basis of ONE witness who saw the plane for a split second and is on record as stating that he and Skipper never saw nor claimed to have seen the alleged impact?

I took offense at the claim that "CIT" are "finished" though she wanted to write F***ed I take it).
Sounds more like a personal crusade against CIT rather than the evidence.

That he claimed to have seen the plane anywhere near the "clover leaf" proves nothing as can be seen by the NOC witnesses drawn path estimates

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The 'green sign' that Debs mentions has no bearing either as Turcios described the plane 'lift over' the sign in the following pic

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The entry point of both the non existent SOC official approach and the 100% corraborrated NOC testimony, at least 5 of whom who had time and perspective to see the plane arrive over the Annex and describe its continued path, converge to within metres of Route 27.

Even Penny Elgas's testimony to you Jeff

[url="http://www.pumpitout.com/audio/pe_060509.mp3"]http://www.pumpitout.com/audio/pe_060509.mp3[/url]

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AND IT WAS LIKE RIGHT THERE OVER THE GAS STATION.( to the side of and not much above the CITGO gas station-original quote) It was like "Woah-ho!" Then... yeah, everything happened so fast. But then the next thing my mind picked up it was ALREADY HAD MOVED ENOUGH TO BE OVER THE GRASS HEADED OVER THE ROAD BUT STILL TO MY LEFT. AND THEN THE NEXT THING IT'S LIKE RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME ABOVE THE CARS. And, um, and just, you know, my mind just took in the mid section. Not the whole plane. I didn't see like [tail numb..?]. I just saw the mid section where the windows were. Uh, the wings, and I saw one wing straight at me and the back wing I saw from under the plane because it wobbled.


Where in ANY of the above does she describe the "SOC path"??
The alleged path illustrated above.
The plane would have arrived from BEHIND her stated position. She claimed that the plane was "four cars in front" of her in her original testimony which would place her further up the road from lightpole 1 and 2 AND that it was in front of her field of vision for the entire duration.

Yet it appeared "over the gas station", just as Alan Wallace said in your interview with him

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"Shure: did the plane come in to the right or the left of that gas station?

Wallace: I guess it would have come in RIGHT OVER THE TOP OF IT.."


Then he tells you to get a map and draw a "straight edge" where the clover leaf is and that it would be to the "north of the overpass" - obviously remembering the path the FBI had shown him over 2 days.
That doesn't sound contrived to you? That him being shown the alleged SOC path by the FBI didn't influence his testimony and 'taint' his memory in any way?

Anyway, as Ms Elgas was saying..

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"I looked out my driver's side window and realized that I was looking at the nose of an airplane coming straight at us..from over the road (Columbia Pike) that runs perpendicular to the road I was on.¨


Can YOU draw the path she is describing? Don't forget to take into account the directional damage path..


I don't doubt for one second that Penny Elgas is convinced that she witnessed an "impact" but her story completely contradicts the Official Narrative. Or what flightpath can take the route she described and combine it with the damage caused? It's impossible. As shown by P4T.

The lady was in a state of shock.

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and I did not hear or feel anything -- not the roar of the plane, or wind force, or impact sounds.¨


I've actually been in a few explosions and I know EXACTLY what she went through.

CIT and Pilotsfor911Truth have had a deluge of sideswipes from the sidelines lately based on incomplete and flawed "research" for unfathomable personal reasons in most cases.

Fair enough you haven't made up your mind on most/all of what happened on 9/11 (apart from the alleged "impact"??) but at least go and check the CIT site out or at least talk to the guys.



Sorry for the 'b****y' tone but I'm a bit pissed at half-arsed insinuations and the complete shafting of the NOC corraborrated testimony when it should be embraced to the full.

By the way, you see that ignorant slopehead Liebner as 'proof' of anything? Really?
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onesliceshort says: "...slopehead..." ???
That's disgusting! Shame on you, onesliceshort!

And, 'NO'; I wasn't using foul language 'f**ked'; everybody knows it's not my style.
BE GONE, onesliceshort, until you learn some manners!
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Here's an image of the other side of the Turcios "do not enter" sign north of the bridge. Note how it does say "Pentagon south parking" as noted by Wallace:

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Plus he said the plane was north of the overpass:

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And it would be to the north of the, of the br-- the over-- overpass, or underpass. And if you put one end of the straight edge just about, just about to the center of the, uh, length of the west wall of the Pentagon. And put the other e-- uh, and put part of the straight edge back, back to the southeast, southwest, or, or, west, and put it, just to the north of the overpass, that is the path of the airplane. Cause when we saw it-- when I, when I first saw it, it was right o-- it was right in front of those big, uh, freeway signs there that say Pentagon south parking.


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Yougenedebs
May 3 2010, 08:59 PM
onesliceshort says: "...slopehead..." ???
That's disgusting! Shame on you, onesliceshort!

And, 'NO'; I wasn't using foul language 'f**ked'; everybody knows it's not my style.
BE GONE, onesliceshort, until you learn some manners!
Debs
I was referring to Liebner as 'slopehead'. A military ignorant jarhead.
Did you listen to his interview with Jeff??

Or did you just jump on the CIT-bashing bandwagon as you just did with Alan Wallace's testimony?
You have to think sometimes before you make your conclusions.

Did you read the posts regarding the nonsense that he is an "SOC witness"

What do you think of the 'Turcios sign' reading exactly what Mr Wallace described?
Go figure. huh?
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Yougenedebs
May 3 2010, 08:59 PM
onesliceshort says: "...slopehead..." ???
That's disgusting! Shame on you, onesliceshort!

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BE GONE, onesliceshort, until you learn some manners!
Debs
Yougenedebs,
I have seen some of your videos and commend you for the great effort you put into your research.

I urge you to avoid ad hominem. Please, just state your conclusions and let the readers make up their mind. No need to tell us the CIT is "finished" [I emphasize, this is *not* my opinion]. I assure you, readers have enough intelligence to make these sorts of decisions themselves. I urge you to avoid mainstream media tactics. We see enough of that every day, no need to bring it here.

Apologies for not making any useful contributions to the thread, but I really hope that we get over the name-calling crisis. We're here to share our ideas, there will be points we agree on, others we don't. The ultimate judgment is in the hands of the reader, not us. Do your research, publish your conclusions and let the people make up their mind.

I hope you don't mind me requesting that no one resorts to ad hominem, it helps no one and serves no purpose.

Apologies if I have caused offense, I assure you that is not my intention.
Edited by jmas, May 3 2010, 10:00 PM.
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jmas
May 3 2010, 09:45 PM
Yougenedebs
May 3 2010, 08:59 PM
onesliceshort says: "...slopehead..." ???
That's disgusting! Shame on you, onesliceshort!

[...]

BE GONE, onesliceshort, until you learn some manners!
Debs
Yougenedebs,
I have seen some of your videos and commend you for the great effort you put into your research.

I urge you to avoid ad hominem. Please, just state your conclusions and let the readers make up their mind. No need to tell us the CIT is "finished" [I emphasize, this is *not* my opinion]. I assure you, readers have enough intelligence to make these sorts of decisions themselves. I urge you to avoid mainstream media tactics. We see enough of that every day, no need to bring it here.

Apologies for not making any useful contributions to the thread, but I really hope that we get over the name-calling crisis. We're here to share our ideas, there will be points we agree on, others we don't. The ultimate judgment is in the hands of the reader, not us. Do your research, publish your conclusions and let the people make up their mind.

I hope you don't mind me requesting that no one resorts to ad hominem, it helps no one and serves no purpose.

Apologies if I have caused offense, I assure you that is not my intention.
jmas~
Thank you for your kind and considered post. I agree with you that ad hominem should be avoided. Thank you for pointing out that ‘finished’ could be interpreted as such; I had not thought of that.

And thanks for your interest in my work.
Be Well,
Debs
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shure
May 5 2010, 07:28 AM
onesliceshort, I'm still looking over the videos and other information before I respond to you.
Jeff~
There is going to be one more video soon; it is almost done. I have noticed a fundamental flaw in the North of Citgo "evidence"; an 'issue of perspective'.

Thank you for your patience.

Debs
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Sounds good Debs, can't wait to see it. Theres that word perspective again!
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Jeff~ Thanks for calling the witnesses. I really appreciate that.
I see that you are being attacked personally and that's not right.
Hang in there!
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