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The Disinfo Files
Topic Started: Oct 14 2009, 10:44 PM (832 Views)
shure	Oct 18 2009, 08:24 AM Post #31
Administrator Posts: 1,785 Group: Administrator Member #1 Joined: Feb 13, 2008	Yougenedebs Oct 18 2009, 08:10 AM New video is up! DEBS DOES ADDENDUM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cpqckt89Lg4 It's already had 1 view, getting one star! Enjoy! Debs Excellent video Debs! You have found proof of video fakery



RasgaSaias	Oct 18 2009, 08:43 AM Post #32
Posts: 1,360 Group: Global Moderator Member #43 Joined: Oct 16, 2008	Yougenedebs Oct 18 2009, 08:10 AM New video is up! DEBS DOES ADDENDUM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cpqckt89Lg4 It's already had 1 view, getting one star! Enjoy! Debs Great video! This kind of stuff is never enough! Thanks for the patience and time you spent on it. I already knew what he did with "Pat" the helicopter. A quick check on the NBC archive footage with 1GB for each file (Good quality) exposes most of his claims. The scheme is always about keeping something away from the viewers and make them trust his word with persuasive tactics. I'm absolutely sure he knew what he was doing. There's no way he could miss that helicopter.



broken sticks	Oct 18 2009, 11:55 AM Post #33
Posts: 1,420 Group: Members Member #105 Joined: Jan 3, 2009	Yougenedebs Oct 18 2009, 08:10 AM New video is up! DEBS DOES ADDENDUM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cpqckt89Lg4 It's already had 1 view, getting one star! Enjoy! Debs great video debs, funny name too lol and "auto-debunkery"! what a great phrase!



broken sticks	Oct 18 2009, 02:35 PM Post #34
Posts: 1,420 Group: Members Member #105 Joined: Jan 3, 2009	Yougenedebs Oct 18 2009, 08:10 AM New video is up! DEBS DOES ADDENDUM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cpqckt89Lg4 It's already had 1 view, getting one star! Enjoy! Debs debs! there's a camera early on that you place as at church and duane! this is where Don Dahler's apartment is - he's the guy on ABC who says "i did not see a plane go in, that just exploded". now we have a shot of the towers we can use to show don's viewing angle. excellent. achimspok, could you possibly show your animation from this position? (edit. about five stories above ground level i think - he says its a loft apartment). Edited by broken sticks, Oct 18 2009, 02:36 PM.



elephant room	Oct 18 2009, 04:26 PM Post #35
Posts: 648 Group: Members Member #50 Joined: Oct 21, 2008	nice debs! Auto-Debunkery is shameless, malicious, and more proof that Psymon Shack is a disinfo specialist.



broken sticks	Nov 3 2009, 05:16 PM Post #36
Posts: 1,420 Group: Members Member #105 Joined: Jan 3, 2009	Two points. First relates to Fetzer. I was watching some JFK stuff the other day, it got me searching around for a couple of things, and I came across this: Quote: Now Fetzer's cult has taken this debate to a new level. Based on poor quality prints, they are claiming that the hole is plainly visible in the Altgens 1-6 photo, taken at about Z-255, before the head shot. ....... I don't know why Fetzer has turned it into a major controversy. Six months ago I had told him about this simple error, even before I had read Assassination Science. There must be some hidden significance if Fetzer et al are willing to claim that all the photographic evidence is fake, claim that all the FBI agents and Secret Service agents are liars, perjurers, and conspirators. Fetzer went so far as to claim that because I did not simply accept his word that the "spiral nebula" was actually a bullet hole, therefore I was not interested in the truth and that I was part of the cover-up. Fetzer used this tactic before and lost. When I pointed out a simple mistake he had made in his caption of Appendix L, he blustered and threatened. He claimed that he had never made a mistake, that I was not "qualified" to even attempt to call to his attention any mistakes in his book, and he called my article "slanderous." He threatened to sue me for slander for simply daring to point out a simple mistake... This was in 1998! Fetzer has been at this game for a long, long time. His M.O. hasn't changed, his tactics, his mistakes, you can just substitute the words JFK for 911, Altgens for Hezarkhani, bullet for plane, its the same exact bull****. ok, other thing, just quickly... i feel a bit like we've been farmed by icke. i'll go have a proper look at his new updates, but it seems like he came here, got us talking about his psycho-babble, and used it all to generate his next load of psycho-babble. i guess ace does the same really, but it seems to have been instigated by icke in his case (as opposed to ace coming here to defend things already written).



RasgaSaias	Nov 4 2009, 02:43 PM Post #37
Posts: 1,360 Group: Global Moderator Member #43 Joined: Oct 16, 2008	broken sticks Nov 3 2009, 05:16 PM This was in 1998! Fetzer has been at this game for a long, long time. His M.O. hasn't changed, his tactics, his mistakes, you can just substitute the words JFK for 911, Altgens for Hezarkhani, bullet for plane, its the same exact bull****. It really makes me wonder about his real intentions in the conspiracy business.



Yougenedebs	Nov 4 2009, 03:59 PM Post #38
Posts: 213 Group: Perspectivist Member #182 Joined: Mar 30, 2009	RasgaSaias Nov 4 2009, 02:43 PM broken sticks Nov 3 2009, 05:16 PM This was in 1998! Fetzer has been at this game for a long, long time. His M.O. hasn't changed, his tactics, his mistakes, you can just substitute the words JFK for 911, Altgens for Hezarkhani, bullet for plane, its the same exact bull***. It really makes me wonder about his real intentions in the conspiracy business. You hit it right on the head, Rasga; it's his business* . If anything actually got resolved, it would put him out of business!



Chander	Nov 4 2009, 07:09 PM Post #39
Posts: 181 Group: Members Member #155 Joined: Feb 14, 2009	"If anything actually got resolved, it would put him out of business!" What an absurd and unfounded smear of a dedicated researcher. If you think he's getting rich from his work you really must be high. If anything, it has cost him money. The 9/11 conference he put on in Madison in 2007, for example, lost quite a bit of money, which came out of his pocket.



Jenny	Nov 4 2009, 09:26 PM Post #40
Posts: 209 Group: Members Member #206 Joined: Apr 29, 2009	RasgaSaias Nov 4 2009, 02:43 PM broken sticks Nov 3 2009, 05:16 PM This was in 1998! Fetzer has been at this game for a long, long time. His M.O. hasn't changed, his tactics, his mistakes, you can just substitute the words JFK for 911, Altgens for Hezarkhani, bullet for plane, its the same exact bull****. It really makes me wonder about his real intentions in the conspiracy business. I think it's pretty bloody obvious what Fetzer is up to. His best mate, Kevin "arrested for domestic abuse" Barrett( no that is not speculation http://www.madison.com/wsj/topstories/305149 ), is no better. Then there's his single handed creation of Judy Jetson as some sort of "researcher". Remember, if it wasn't for this man, we'd have never heard of "space beams". Think his game's pretty obvious--we don't even need to look at his creepy connection to Whoretown and assorted psychos.



Chander	Nov 4 2009, 09:49 PM Post #41
Posts: 181 Group: Members Member #155 Joined: Feb 14, 2009	Quote: Then there's his single handed creation of Judy Jetson as some sort of "researcher". Remember, if it wasn't for this man, we'd have never heard of "space beams". It's amazing how you managed to get so much misinformation into one sentence! Brief rebuttal: a) Dr. Fetzer did not create Dr. Wood. I heard her speak publicly at least a year before she ever appeared on Fetzer's radio program. b) She is not "some sort" of researcher. She is a researcher. c) She has never used the term "space beams". Try "directed energy weapons", or DEW.



RasgaSaias	Nov 4 2009, 10:52 PM Post #42
Posts: 1,360 Group: Global Moderator Member #43 Joined: Oct 16, 2008	Chander Nov 4 2009, 09:49 PM She [Judy Wood] is a researcher. LOL And John Hutchinson is a scientist! LOL Edited by RasgaSaias, Nov 4 2009, 10:54 PM.



Yougenedebs	Nov 5 2009, 01:35 AM Post #43
Posts: 213 Group: Perspectivist Member #182 Joined: Mar 30, 2009	Chander Nov 4 2009, 09:49 PM Quote: Then there's his single handed creation of Judy Jetson as some sort of "researcher". Remember, if it wasn't for this man, we'd have never heard of "space beams". It's amazing how you managed to get so much misinformation into one sentence! Brief rebuttal: a) Dr. Fetzer did not create Dr. Wood. I heard her speak publicly at least a year before she ever appeared on Fetzer's radio program. b) She is not "some sort" of researcher. She is a researcher. c) She has never used the term "space beams". Try "directed energy weapons", or DEW. So, like, uh, what 'sort of' researcher are you?



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