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| Numbered Boeing Part on CNN; identified | |
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| Topic Started: Oct 10 2009, 05:09 PM (2,482 Views) | |
| Matt | Oct 10 2009, 05:09 PM Post #1 |
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Numbered Plane Debris on CNN ____________________________________________  CSTG 256T1115-2 "Piece of debris w/ part number, CNN, 09/12, 01:10" download HQ mpeg2 - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=PBXMNIMW See also this clip from CNN.com: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JlKSxWDgtU#t=2m32s -- which gives us an idea of the location of the find (which I can't place exactly).  ____________________________________________
-http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=2599228&postcount=17 from the JREF forum: http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=81911 Apathoid, someone familiar with aircraft components, solves the problem (it seems) in this JREF post: http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=2601518&postcount=30 -- which includes these images:  ON EDIT: I just noticed an error in the additional arrows (above) by Apathoid. The arrows point to the wrong bracket. The original arrow from the "495" points above the part Apathoid does. A much better match to what we are seeing in the CNN clip.   ========================================================= Other investigations into the matter: Dylan Avery: http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=8956 Pilots for Truth: http://z9.invisionfree.com/Pilots_For_Truth/index.php?s=8740188c6521df8fc2c7692016bdece3&showtopic=6737&st=0&#entry8941785 Edited by Matt, Oct 10 2009, 05:16 PM.
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| Matt | Oct 10 2009, 06:17 PM Post #2 |
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Okay, I fixed the image.
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| YougeneDebs | Oct 10 2009, 07:08 PM Post #3 |
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I think it was on Rector between Broadway and Trinty. The windows, the tree, the stone wall. The plane part "landed" about 1,100 feet from the south wall of WTC2 (as the crow flies). 
Edited by YougeneDebs, Oct 10 2009, 07:29 PM.
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| Matt | Oct 10 2009, 07:52 PM Post #4 |
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That was what I was hoping for! Thanks, Debs. So.... We're talking about this path from impact point to landing spot:  Could the numbered bracket have possibly traveled that distance during the "collapse" of the South Tower? |
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| YougeneDebs | Oct 10 2009, 08:08 PM Post #5 |
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Watch any 'collapse' video of WTC2 and notice that the top portion of the Tower tilts over and blocks any trajectory to the southeast; imho. But maybe there's a chance. |
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| Matt | Oct 10 2009, 08:17 PM Post #6 |
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I doubt it, too. Here's another angle on the supposed plane part path: The angle of the other aerial view (I posted above) makes the debris flight seem far, but from this perspective the distance traveled after explosion seems more feasible. [EDIT: Is it feasible?] Edited by Matt, Oct 10 2009, 08:19 PM.
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| YougeneDebs | Oct 11 2009, 01:41 AM Post #7 |
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No matter how one looks at it (perspective!), the distance is still over 1,100 feet and from the 80th-ish floor (not the top of the building. It would be a lot easier to take the plane part out of one's backpack and place it on the car (being mindful of scooping up a handful of dust/debris off the ground and sprinkle same over the plane part as it rests on the car). Not that anybody would ever DO such a thing, of course. |
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| Matt | Oct 11 2009, 02:48 AM Post #8 |
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I must say that the scenario for exploding an airplane bracket 960 feet down and 1100 feet laterally away from the impact point onto the slippery hood of a car seems a bit far-fetched. Maybe somebody picked it up off the street and put it there, perhaps some distance from where it was found. (But why THERE? Why did the cop feel compelled to call Forensics to the scene? Who brought it to his attention?) We'll never know. I wonder if this part is exclusive to the 767 model, and not used in the 747... seeing as how we've got info suggesting the engine found at Church and Murray was from a 747. -- http://s1.zetaboards.com/pumpitout/topic/1829738/1/ Say, maybe the mechanic who ID'd the bracket could help with engine ID. |
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| broken sticks | Oct 11 2009, 03:01 AM Post #9 |
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he was "waiting for forensics" according to the reporter. is it odd that there'd be such a guard over what turned out to be the only numbered part we saw? maybe all the pieces were guarded like that. still, its a pretty small piece. i guess the fact that its numbered would be important if you found it. there's an indent in the dust underneath it that makes me think it was there during a major dust cloud. not necessarily before though - it could have landed on there with other debris from a collapse. however, that's just going from the bonnet. it seems strange that it could have got so far out from the towers. i guess we'd know roughly what floor it would supposedly have come from. its the distance from the towers that bugs me though. it would have to have been propelled at quite some speed. proof of explosive forces in the tower maybe? |
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| seatnineb | Oct 11 2009, 04:12 AM Post #10 |
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"Apathoid" is already well known: He is on airliners.net and 911mythsdebunking aswell as J(scumF***in)REF. I am also a member of airliners.net and have posted a private message to him:
I am not holding my breath that he responds....although accoding to the stats...he last posted on airliners.net over a year ago |
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| beatprophet | Oct 11 2009, 04:59 AM Post #11 |
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Maybee it's one of the parts that should have bounced off the south wall  That's how it got where it is! |
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| waypastvne | Oct 11 2009, 04:05 PM Post #12 |
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You are probably going to start calling me the oxygen tank freak, but take a look at where that part is located. |
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| Matt | Oct 11 2009, 05:48 PM Post #13 |
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What do you mean? |
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| waypastvne | Oct 11 2009, 05:54 PM Post #14 |
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When the O2 tank exploded, it gave this part the kinetic energy it needed to move it to the location seen in the video. |
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| Matt | Oct 11 2009, 06:30 PM Post #15 |
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Interesting thought, considering the location on the right side, relatively nearby - almost above - the bracket. (See this photo, also a few posts up.) "CREW OXYGEN BOTTLE IN RIGHT SIDE, E & E COMPARTMENT" |
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