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'ff-club' by psymon shack
Topic Started: Sep 15 2009, 05:09 PM (1,326 Views)
elephant room
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http://www.septemberclues.info/
 
THE SEPTEMBER CLUES “FF-club” (Former Fan Club)

There are now around 50 videos poking fun at September Clues (the research) or mounting raving attacks against Simon Shack (your humble servant). I take it as a honor that so many folks are preoccupied with my efforts. There are, thankfully, exponentially more people firmly backing my research - but for now, let’s take a look at the “FF-club” with a personal story.

A jolly gang of infiltrators sprouted up like mushrooms shortly after the release of September Clues (version 1.0) in June 2007. All of them started off posing as enthusiastic fans of my research, only to abruptly flip-flop (all at once ! - around mid-2008) and have been attacking it ever since. It would, of course, be wisest of me to ignore them altogether – but since I’m often asked my stance on those ‘critics’ by honest, inquiring people – I hope this will help answer most of their queries. Here’s how the "FF-club’s" common agenda probably reads :

1. - Befriend the creator of September Clues, Simon Shack – praise his work and acquire his trust/esteem – along with that of his audience & entourage.

2. – Act initially as a helpful, genuine 9/11 researcher. Produce written/video material on TV Fakery to establish yourself as a ‘credible member’ of the TV fakery research. Ideally, pose as a consummate 'video expert'.

3. - Start nitpicking on ‘errors’ and ‘inaccuracies’ in September Clues. Accuse its author of "failing to address the errors”. Finally, launch all-out attacks on his work and persona to generate confusion and controversy. Motto : “Divide and conquer”.



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I think this is one area where we must be thick-skinned!

There will always be some blind, low-IQ government sheep ATTEMPTING to shoot down and discredit any information. Finitely, only they themselves are fooled.

As true fighters for freedom, I think this is one area where we must be strong, and fight on.

Those that choose to take a fact, on which they offer an opinion is ludicrous. We don't need to worry about this group, they are of no help to our mission anyway.

We can say: The very nature of a fact is that an opinion cannot be passed on it. Facts by their very definition are true, therefore those that don't believe, simply don't understand. IF the truth can be told so as to be understood, it WILL be believed. BUT, trying to allow the afore mentioned group to understand is sometimes a step beyond possibility due to their incredible ignorance levels.

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D9cbd
Sep 15 2009, 06:41 PM
I think this is one area where we must be thick-skinned!

There will always be some blind, low-IQ government sheep ATTEMPTING to shoot down and discredit any information. Finitely, only they themselves are fooled.

As true fighters for freedom, I think this is one area where we must be strong, and fight on.

Those that choose to take a fact, on which they offer an opinion is ludicrous. We don't need to worry about this group, they are of no help to our mission anyway.

We can say: The very nature of a fact is that an opinion cannot be passed on it. Facts by their very definition are true, therefore those that don't believe, simply don't understand. IF the truth can be told so as to be understood, it WILL be believed. BUT, trying to allow the afore mentioned group to understand is sometimes a step beyond possibility due to their incredible ignorance levels.

Hear, hear
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i think the true explanation of why "A jolly gang of infiltrators sprouted up like mushrooms shortly after the release of September Clues", is because these people looked into it for themselves and discovered that september clues is basically 99% incorrect.

as for it being "wisest of me to ignore them altogether", how can an honest researcher ignore errors that people point out in his research?

the errors should be more important to him than the "infiltrators".


personally, it would be quite easy to make a film based on september clues that shows how it is pretty much all lies and mistakes.
however, having watched it again recently, i'm no longer worried about it being a damaging video, as really its quite obvious once you know and own the 911 amateur footage and media coverage, and analyse it all in context, that september clues is laughable.


simon shack would therefore appear to categorise me as an infiltrator. lol. fair enough, he can do what he wants.
but if he wants respect, and wants to help 911 research, he wouldn't knowingly produce such a terrible film.
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broken sticks
Sep 15 2009, 11:58 PM
i think the true explanation of why "A jolly gang of infiltrators sprouted up like mushrooms shortly after the release of September Clues", is because these people looked into it for themselves and discovered that september clues is basically 99% incorrect.

as for it being "wisest of me to ignore them altogether", how can an honest researcher ignore errors that people point out in his research?

the errors should be more important to him than the "infiltrators".


personally, it would be quite easy to make a film based on september clues that shows how it is pretty much all lies and mistakes.
however, having watched it again recently, i'm no longer worried about it being a damaging video, as really its quite obvious once you know and own the 911 amateur footage and media coverage, and analyse it all in context, that september clues is laughable.


simon shack would therefore appear to categorise me as an infiltrator. lol. fair enough, he can do what he wants.
but if he wants respect, and wants to help 911 research, he wouldn't knowingly produce such a terrible film.
Hey sticks and elephant room~

It's odd that this thread showed up when it did; I just got finished making a video about Psyman's miss-use of parallax:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPUW4UAsCEA

Yes, I am a former fan.
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and what an excellent video it is!
very well put.

and many of us are former fans, as simon shack puts it.
just as many of us may be former fans of wrestling when we were younger, until we found out it was all fake.
now, its perfectly honourable to continue to be a fan of wrestling if you want to as it is inconsequential to world events, and not a matter that needs to be taken seriously. in effect, wrestling can be considered "all in the name of fun".

911 research is not all in the name of fun.

i quite like this metaphor! lol
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good vid/testimony debs!

Elephant Room,
Proud Member of Former Fan Club ...
err 'Aware that Sept Clues is Disinfo ... Club'
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yeah
i resent the phrase "former FANS" as well

if we were fans of anything, it was the evidence, not him.
of course, that evidence evaporated when we tried to verify it, but hey.

i mean, the fact he wants "fans" shows he clearly has fame in mind over respect or good research or honesty.
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Yougenedebs
Sep 16 2009, 07:32 PM
I just got finished making a video about Psyman's miss-use of parallax:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPUW4UAsCEA
Great video Debs!

Simple and effective.



I'm also guilty of once being naive enough to trust Simon Shack.
We have to admit he's good on persuasion. Specially with newcomers.
But that's the bottom line. I can't see any honesty in his "work". Neither in his close disciples.
They had to be thick as a concrete wall to not notice September Clues is a pile of desinfo rubbish.

Anyway, the smart people will eventually see through it.
And Simon Shack can cry a river about it for all I care.

Edited by RasgaSaias, Sep 16 2009, 10:10 PM.
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RasgaSaias
Sep 16 2009, 09:42 PM
Yougenedebs
Sep 16 2009, 07:32 PM
I just got finished making a video about Psyman's miss-use of parallax:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPUW4UAsCEA
Great video Debs!

Simple and effective.



I'm also guilty of once being naive enough to trust Simon Shack.
We have to admit he's good on persuasion. Specially with newcomers.
But that's the bottom line. I can't see any honesty in his "work". Neither in his close disciples.
They had to be thick as a concrete wall to not notice September Clues is a pile of desinfo rubbish.

Anyway, the smart people will eventually see through it.
And Simon Shack can cry a river about it for all I care.

RasgaSaias!

Did I pronounce your name correctly in the video?

Psyman is effective on the new people, those just coming to awareness.

Thanks for all your help!

Debs
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Yougenedebs
Sep 17 2009, 08:43 PM
Did I pronounce your name correctly in the video?
LOL Yes you did.
Not a big deal ;)
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Indeed, your pronunciation is perfect! BTW, great channel, and great parallax video, it's easy to understand and clears a lot of doubts, thanks a lot ;)
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Thanks a bunch, y'all

Here's the url to my latest video taking on Simon's "PROPAGANDA911"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYk0FSJ5cSs

I just hope it's not too over the top.

(I'm not sure when it will be ready to view; youtube is still processing it; please be patient; it's not my fault.)

And thanks again, Matt!

Debs
Edited by YougeneDebs, Oct 24 2009, 05:42 AM.
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Yougenedebs
Oct 24 2009, 05:42 AM
Here's the url to my latest video taking on Simon's "PROPAGANDA911"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYk0FSJ5cSs
Nice video once again Debs.

The most absurd from all this is the incredible stretch Simon Shack makes.

From those faulty misquotes and wrong picture attributions he concludes that lower Manhattan was completely evacuated at the time, the people running on the street were actors, non of the collapse videos are real and all the victims came from a computer generated list.

He grabs something that at first glance looks solid, picks a cinematographic documentary as target and degenerates everything into extreme nonsense.

Even if everything presented in the documentary was staged, how would that prove the videos are fake and nobody died on those towers?
It would, at best, prove someone is making propaganda about 9/11 (well named this time, we must give him that).
Not that they were trying to hide a shocking alternative reality.

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RasgaSaias
Oct 24 2009, 06:40 AM
Yougenedebs
Oct 24 2009, 05:42 AM
Here's the url to my latest video taking on Simon's "PROPAGANDA911"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYk0FSJ5cSs
Nice video once again Debs.

The most absurd from all this is the incredible stretch Simon Shack makes.

From those faulty misquotes and wrong picture attributions he concludes that lower Manhattan was completely evacuated at the time, the people running on the street were actors, non of the collapse videos are real and all the victims came from a computer generated list.

He grabs something that at first glance looks solid, picks a cinematographic documentary as target and degenerates everything into extreme nonsense.

Even if everything presented in the documentary was staged, how would that prove the videos are fake and nobody died on those towers?
It would, at best, prove someone is making propaganda about 9/11 (well named this time, we must give him that).
Not that they were trying to hide a shocking alternative reality.

Your points are well stated, Rasga!
Simon is simply attacking a 'Hollywood' production; and as such, has no bearing on the main issues.

Thanks for watching!

Debs
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