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175 Landing Gear at 45 Park Place; searching for info
Topic Started: Aug 2 2009, 11:18 AM (2,842 Views)
Matt
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45 Park Place:

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7.7 45 Park Place

This building is located three blocks north of the WTC site (Figure 7-1), and was initially rated as No Damage when inspected from the exterior. However, subsequent interior inspection revealed that three floor beams were missing from the top story of the building as a result of the landing gear that penetrated the roof following the airplane impact on WTC 2, shown in Figure 1-4 (in Chapter 1). The rating was subsequently changed to Major Damage. No other significant damage was found.
-http://911research.wtc7.net/mirrors/guardian2/wtc/WTC_ch7.htm
Figure 1-4 is the map in question. Source report info/photo of the debris still unavailable.

45 Park Place days/weeks after 9/11:
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Here's info on an apparent plane part with a location close to 45 Park Place - but decidedly not the same building: http://www.irinfo.org/Articles/article_9_11_2001.html

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I was working in a building situated on the corner of Church Street and Barclay Avenue [sic: should be Barclay St] - about a block north and across the street from the twin towers of the World Trade Center. ...[snip - 1st plane hits]... We walked through the lobby and outside onto Church Street. [snip] At about 8:59, I decided it was time for me to stop wasting time and get back to work. [snip] ...no more than a minute from the time I walked back into the building - that suddenly people were stampeding up the streets. [2nd plane hits - snip] ...I said I'd like to get a better look - but not from the ground. Everyone else in the room agreed, so we took the elevator to the 11th floor and went onto the roof.


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Roof of Church and Barclay is outlined in red. Yellow dot = engine damage. Magneta dot = engine resting spot.

I haven't done the math yet, but I think it's fair to say the 45 Park Pl. landing gear could not have shot straight from the 81st floor of WTC 2, cleared the 15 storey (appx) 100 Church St. (see photo below) and landed directly on the roof of a 5 storey building. It is more likely that the debris hit the much higher structure behind 45 Park Pl like a basketball backboard and fell to the 6th story/roof. I think I see damage in the appropriate spot. View full photo, huge, date unknown (guesses, anyone?): http://911.yweb.sk/galleries/nasekana-ocel/LiveLeak-dot-com-32615-wtcphoto.jpg

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photo(s) source: http://911.yweb.sk/galleries/nasekana-ocel/LiveLeak-dot-com-32615-wtcphoto.jpg

(edit, typo)
Edited by Matt, Aug 2 2009, 11:22 AM.
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seatnineb

Nice work again Matt

If a foto of the landing gear of fl175 does surface.....

My BOeing 747 manual has an in depth description of a 747's landing gear.....would be interesting to see.

Seeing as the engine seems to belong to a 747.....what are the odds that the landing gear would be too?! LOL

Will scour the manual to see if I can match this piece:
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Edited by seatnineb, Aug 2 2009, 11:40 AM.
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Matt
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Thanks for doing that. Good luck.



P.S.: Remember this (these) parts:

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It looks like a landing gear part to me, but it surfaced years later, I believe: http://www.911blogger.com/2005/12/airplane-parts-from-911.html

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Working at the Federal Building, it was our job to hang swing stage scaffolds from the 7th floor setback roof. When I first got up on the lower setback roof and saw the amount of debris I was amazed. Giant pieces of the World Trade Center aluminum siding were everywhere. We had to move most of them to fasten our tie-back scaffold cables. While moving one of these 7 foot pieces of aluminum I noticed what looked like an airplane part. I picked it up and it had a serial number on it and something in writing "hydraulic piston".

About a half hour later, the Postal Investigator and an FBI Agent came up to the setback roof. I was asked where exactly did I find it and not to remove anything else, especially anything spray painted in yellow paint. I was told that there were many airplane parts on the roof and most of them were identified by yellow spray paint.


Additional photos at http://killtown.911review.org/wtc-gallery.html#Briendel

The Federal Building is at 90 Church St... with the Post Office... 2 blocks away from the WTC. This "hydraulic piston" is NOT a photo of the (FEMA map) landing gear. So WHERE is the photo of the landing gear that "crashed through the roof of a building located six blocks to the north" (to quote FEMA, below)


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It is known that debris from the aircraft traveled completely through the structure. For example, a landing gear ... was found to have crashed through the roof of a building located six blocks to the north, and one of the jet engines was found at the corner of Murray and Church Streets. The extent to which debris scattered throughout the impact floors is also evidenced by photographs of the fireballs that occurred as the aircraft struck the building ([Figure 2-28 not included. see instead the debris ejecta/explosion video]). Figure 2-29 [See http://s1.zetaboards.com/pumpitout/single/?p=445491&t=1930887 from the "Engine Cannon Theory" thread: http://s1.zetaboards.com/pumpitout/topic/1930887/1/] shows a portion of the fuselage of the aircraft, lying on the roof of WTC 5.


Edited by Matt, Mar 20 2010, 09:16 PM.
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www.Zionishpress.com/printArticle.cfm?contentid=40095 - Cached
15 Jul 2009 – A large crowd honored Judy and Monroe Milstein who had dedicated a fully equipped intensive care ambulance to the People of Israel. ...

so by an amazing coincidence the 'landing gear' lands on a building owned by a Major Israeli philanthropist

Yeah right
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thisisyourwakeup

if anybody wishes to discuss this matter I can be reached by my 150 upload youtube channel

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Jul 4 2011, 09:05 PM
so by an amazing coincidence the 'landing gear' lands on a building owned by a Major Israeli philanthropist
its not an "amazing" coincidence. could you tell me which building in downtown manhattan ISN'T owned by someone fantastically wealthy?

and anyway, what has Israel got to do with 911?? oh yes, i forget, the Zions were all evacuated from the towers, right? ^o)
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chrisbornag

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Jul 5 2011, 06:16 PM
what has Israel got to do with 911??
http://www.bollyn.com

http://www.bollyn.com/solving-9-11-the-book

* The Book in PDF Format
* How to read the book online
* Table of Contents
* Foreword by Glen Stanish
* Preface
* I - 9/11 Through the Eyes of an American Skeptic
* II - The Planes of 9-11
* III - America the Target: 9-11 and Israel's History of False Flag Terrorism
* IV - The Terror Drills That Became Real: 9-11, the London Bombings & the Sinking of Estonia
* V - How Did Spy Software Get Onto FAA Computers?
* VI - Who Controls Our Elections?
* VI A - The Florida Connection
* VII - The Architecture of Terror: Mapping the Network Behind 9/11
* VIII - The Mass Media & the 9/11 Cover-Up
* IX - Who Really Controls Our Political Parties?
* X - Who Runs the Obama White House?
* XI - The Fleecing of America: 9-11 and the Crisis on Wall Street
* XII - The Nexus Linking 9/11 and the Financial Crisis
* XIII - Ptech, 9/11, and the Financial Collapse
* XIV - Game Over: Evidence of Super-Thermite in the Rubble
* XV - The Destruction of the Evidence
* XVI - Making Sense of the 9/11 Cover Up

XV - The Destruction of the Evidence
http://www.bollyn.com/the-cover-up

XVI - Making Sense of the 9/11 Cover Up
http://www.bollyn.com/making-sense-of-the-911-cover-up

Do U Need More?
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i'll read it all and get back to you.
you might have missed what real research there is, but i'll let you know here where no-one else will see, then you can catch up. saudi arabia, pakistan, George Bush, all with clear links to 911. have a look at this vanity fair article from this month:

http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2011/08/9-11-2011-201108

but ok, i'll have a look at your anti-semitic troll bile for you, see if i can diagnose your problems :)
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"XIV - Game Over: Evidence of Super-Thermite in the Rubble"

hehe i'm looking forward to this one
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chrisbornag

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Jul 6 2011, 06:11 PM
i'll have a look at your anti-semitic troll bile for you, see if i can diagnose your problems :)
To every eye willing to see:

I am not anti-semite; however, I deeply oppose Zionism!

The difference between anti-semite and anti-Zionist: The real nice and honest semites in the diaspora (God's remnant) are very different to the extreme nationalistic pro-Israel, Israelis living in Israel or Israelis loyal to Israel above any country where they live. Do BS want to keep these clearly different concepts blended into one as the ADL, the AIPAC, and any other pro-Israel, pro-Zionism organization...

Are the next links able to open the eyes filled of BS?

http://vsthe36syd.blogspot.com/2011/05/brother-take-back-america-please-rescue.html

http://vsthe36syd.blogspot.com/2011/03/occupied-america.html

Or is BS already sold to the current Zion/Israel agenda?

My Lord Jesus prophesied that the current leadership in the nation of Israel is seven times worst than the generation that crucified him! Search that by yourselves.

Is BS pro-Israel, doing all he can to take the attention out of Israel and of all its evils?
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I am not anti-semite; however, I deeply oppose Zionism!


I've seen on many occasions as people hide their anti-Semitism under the guise of anti-Zionism.
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Jul 8 2011, 12:26 AM
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I am not anti-semite; however, I deeply oppose Zionism!


I've seen on many occasions as people hide their anti-Semitism under the guise of anti-Zionism.
Agreed. Its a thinly veiled racism.

The same sort of thing the hijackers say in their videos actually.
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