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Stanley Praimnath - 911 Survivor
Topic Started: Sep 26 2008, 08:12 PM (996 Views)
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steelers43
Jul 7 2009, 09:08 PM
So how would it manage its way to the opposite side
of the building when momentum would have had it following
the feuselage as it smashes the core...???
I don't think you understand open-plan offices.

Check this out:

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that whole picture is just speculation, i just want people to see how stanley could at least think he's telling the truth, and that doubting him and doubting other witnesses could really f*** up an investigation. what if we wanted to talk to stanley again? i dunno, anyone could be lying, but if they could also be telling the truth we should give people the benefit of the doubt unless we know for sure they're lying. then we'd have more people like carmen taylor, helping us out and agreeing with us that it all doesn't add up.

right, sorry about going all preachy, back to work everyone :)
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DrBabs

If the steel, glass and concrete that fabricated the
building were removed so that the plane could
travel into the building without resistance, I see
nothing wrong with Stanley's story.

But that's a big if.
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DrBabs
Jul 24 2009, 12:50 AM
If the steel, glass and concrete that fabricated the
building were removed so that the plane could
travel into the building without resistance, I see
nothing wrong with Stanley's story.

But that's a big if.
I met Stanley when I introduced him at a private school's Veteran's Day program in 2003. He was hypnotic in his delivery and mannerisms and very inwardly projected, although polite and courteous to a fault. He carried a letter size, leather folder with maybe a couple dozen papers which looked to include the day's agenda, participant and contact names and speech notes. We spoke before and after the program and he answered specific questions and asked me only a few, but appeared interested in my responses. He didn't offer much information otherwise.

I believe Stanley was suffering from Post Traumatic Stress, as was most everybody in NYC that day. I think the best description of his general demeanor would be "shell-shocked."

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DrBabs
Jul 24 2009, 12:50 AM
If the steel, glass and concrete that fabricated the
building were removed so that the plane could
travel into the building without resistance, I see
nothing wrong with Stanley's story.

But that's a big if.

He said he saw a wing in the office door.

What if it was a tail-fin babs? What if a tail-fin had passed through the hole made by the plane and become wedged between internal columns?

Ah, i don't know why i bother - just forget it, go back to your space-beam stuff.
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achimspok

wing in the doorway 81st SW???
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The (FEMA?)drawing of the floor design is wrong, core turned, elevators positions...
Here is the core design at the 81st floor (red - elevator shafts / blue - stairwells)
The plane came from the south.
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and there is another strange story about that floor:

"Fuji Bank had torn up the 81st floor, he said, and stripped it down to the bare bone to reinforce the trusses so that the floor could hold more weight. Then they had built a raised floor and filled the entire floor with server-size Uninterrupted Power Supply (UPS) batteries. ... "Nobody worked on that floor," the source said about Floor 81. The whole floor was taken up with a "whole bunch of batteries" and "enclosed server racks" that were so tall that one could not see over the top of them. The enclosed server racks were locked and the only people who could open them were employees of the Shimizu Corp., he said."
http://www.rense.com/general80/comprooms.htm

Edited by achimspok, Aug 6 2009, 01:57 PM.
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steelers43

achimspok
Aug 6 2009, 01:54 PM
wing in the doorway 81st SW???
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The (FEMA?)drawing of the floor design is wrong, core turned, elevators positions...
Here is the core design at the 81st floor (red - elevator shafts / blue - stairwells)
The plane came from the south.
Posted Image

and there is another strange story about that floor:

"Fuji Bank had torn up the 81st floor, he said, and stripped it down to the bare bone to reinforce the trusses so that the floor could hold more weight. Then they had built a raised floor and filled the entire floor with server-size Uninterrupted Power Supply (UPS) batteries. ... "Nobody worked on that floor," the source said about Floor 81. The whole floor was taken up with a "whole bunch of batteries" and "enclosed server racks" that were so tall that one could not see over the top of them. The enclosed server racks were locked and the only people who could open them were employees of the Shimizu Corp., he said."
http://www.rense.com/general80/comprooms.htm

So is it safe to say that Stanley was mistaken when
he says he saw a wing lodged in the doorway???

If he is mistaken then that doesn't mean that he is a liar...
just mistaken... correct???
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achimspok

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This is the image of femr2 who carefully checked the angle.

I would say either Stanley was on floor 78/79 or may be he saw a piece of the fuselage. He mentioned any red typing on the "wing".
Is there any red typing on the wing of a UA plane? I don't know.
The fuel tanks are in the wings also. So probably Stanley was above the left wing and the subsequent explosion of the containing fuel.
But if he left the 81st floor via stairwell A then why all the people above 81 didn't do the same? What should have destroyed stairwell A above 81?
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