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| Topic Started: May 16 2009, 01:24 PM (1,173 Views) | |
| shure | May 16 2009, 01:24 PM Post #1 |
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| Deleted User | May 16 2009, 01:49 PM Post #2 |
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Carmen you are amazing, it's so great to see you helping like this and trying to get your head around this whole mystery. Thank you  It does look like his head turns a bit, but I would have thought he'd grip and lift his camera too. I know it's only a still camera but I think if I'd been there I would have tried to pan it and take the shot like you did. Did you lift your camera as soon as you saw the plane? |
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| broken sticks | May 16 2009, 01:54 PM Post #3 |
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go carmen! to see that you, a witness and photographer of the event, take what we do seriously, is immensely satisfying as for the video, i think you're right (about the head-turn). its a very slight movement, and could be coincidental of course, but i think ur right the guy who filmed the columbine shot also appears to follow the plane slightly as well (with his camera, after the zoom-out, very slightly) as for the guy who didn't photograph the plane, maybe he'd seen other planes flying around without incident (in the minutes preceding the second strike) and didn't think much of it. until it hit, of course. |
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| beatprophet | May 16 2009, 01:58 PM Post #4 |
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I would have to agree.. There is a slight movement of the guys head as the plane image moves toward the south tower... Makes you wonder why he didn't see the plane image as a photo op... Thanks Carmen Beat |
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| jambatrumpet | May 16 2009, 02:00 PM Post #5 |
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I just watched continuos pieces for first time... Genius Mr Jeff... Yes, i believe there must have been a hologram or something of the sort.. i think back to Jeff talking to the woman who took one of the main videos.. she sounds truthful when she says 'well, what did we all see if it wasn't a plane? They would have had to put something in the water of all of new york city!' she does not sound like she is lying, and none of the witnesses jeff talks to sound like they are lying about SEEING but not HEARING a plane... this points the use of some sort of hologram or projection, as is described to be used in NASA'a project Blue Beam.
Edited by jambatrumpet, May 16 2009, 02:01 PM.
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| shure | May 16 2009, 02:05 PM Post #6 |
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Thanks jambatrumpet, when Jennifer Spell says that it really makes me laugh and it does sound truthful. ps; Carmen didn't send me that message, although it would have been great if she did!!! 
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| Deleted User | May 16 2009, 02:11 PM Post #7 |
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 ha ha, but Carmen still rocks for answering the questions. |
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| shure | May 16 2009, 02:14 PM Post #8 |
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Yes she does, I haven't heard from her in a couple of days. One day I would love her to watch my video and give me her opinion on it! |
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| broken sticks | May 16 2009, 05:00 PM Post #9 |
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not carmen?? d'oh! she should sign up anyway, we all like her here speaking of 'not heard from in a coupla days', i should find out what happened to the penttbom guy, he has videos from the FBI that haven't been posted yet.... the bingham guy (simon?) |
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| elephant room | May 17 2009, 04:02 PM Post #10 |
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Did Carmen make that first post about the back of the guys head in the columbine shot that you quoted Shure? Very astute. I say that cause it's similar an observation I recently made and didn't post it yet  ... In this video (link anyone?, Matt's archive is down) we have a camera man interviewing this man discussing the first explosion ...  and they are west of the towers, as we can see when the cameraman turns around to film the post-explosion ...  well ... if you follow the guys eyes as the "plane" enters the building you can see his eyes go to the south and appear to be following something from south to north in the brief moment before the incident :  ... edit, found the vid: Edited by elephant room, May 17 2009, 04:11 PM.
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| shure | May 17 2009, 05:07 PM Post #11 |
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No it wasn't her, it was someone else. I never bothered to say who because I don't know if they would care. |
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| Matt | Jun 13 2009, 03:57 PM Post #12 |
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New longer version with audio. The guy at bestshotfootage.com emailed me a clean copy with sound, previously unheard. A couple other clips, too. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9s-TTxWuMY&fmt=18 |
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| elephant room | Jun 14 2009, 08:33 PM Post #13 |
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nice Matt, could you post an mp4 video for download? |
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| Matt | Jun 14 2009, 10:13 PM Post #14 |
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Here's the original .mov file. http://www.megaupload.com/?d=09ZOUFE4 |
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| elephant room | Jun 15 2009, 07:56 AM Post #15 |
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gracias ... I never noticed the western white elephant is seen briefly (far right) to match foreman and so forth... maybe I just missed it. Edited by elephant room, Jun 15 2009, 08:03 AM.
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