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| Topic Started: May 1 2009, 11:57 PM (1,034 Views) | |
| shure | May 1 2009, 11:57 PM Post #1 |
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This is a thread dedicated to digging up the real Alex Jones! I have collected alot on him over the years, this was my introduction to who he really is. People say that he is good because he "wakes alot of people up", But they don't undersand that he gains credibility with half truths and then misdirects people away from the full truth. Selling partial truth instead of telling the truth, his answer for everything is to buy his DVD's, that is the way you can help! How about what William Cooper thinks of you Alex, He DESPISED you!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJ82zk8ycfs William Cooper exposing Alex Jones on his Y2k scare. Part 1: http://www.pumpitout.com/audio/Cooper/cooper_ajy2k_1.mp3 Part 2: http://www.pumpitout.com/audio/Cooper/cooper_ajy2k_2.mp3 Part 3: http://www.pumpitout.com/audio/Cooper/cooper_ajy2k_3.mp3 This guy is on the radio everyday spreading fear, where exactly did he predict 9/11 because I don't see it. All I see is him and his same routine: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSBhRhqvPlc
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| shure | May 1 2009, 11:58 PM Post #2 |
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Jarhead Hijinx My introduction to Alex Jones came from surfing through channels 10, 11 and 16. For those of you who are not subscribers to Austin Cablevision, these are the Austin Community Access Centers channels. Anyone who cares to take the time to become a producer of a live or dead (eg: recorded), show can do so by taking the classes and reserving a series time. I did such a thing many years ago and encourage as many people as i can to do the same. Or you can be like Alex Jones. He simply asks various producers if he can show some tapes and/ or be a talking head for their shows. This is good for the producers because many producers have an idea of what their show should be like, but aren't really cut out for being on television. It is possible that Jones is now a producer; i do not know. So there he was one night, flipping through the channels and there's this guy on TV who is taking calls (this was a live show). I honestly thought the guy was funny, not because of his sense of humor, but because a caller might say, "Hey Alex, there are too many damned Asians at UT". (sadly enough, there are enough lazy white boys at the University of Texas who are too chickenshit to compete against Asians in the race for a good grade in the academic arena. They would much rather piss and bitch and moan about it instead of studying). So this guy, Alex, would then start up with something like, "You are so right. These Communists are trying to subvert this country by coming here, squeezing students out of universities and distributing their propaganda." Note that this is not an actual quote, but rather is indicative of the type of rhetoric that Alex Jones gives. But later, he became much more incoherent. He started putting organizations and names to the forces that were persecuting him, though he never had any proof. One such story came from an event that he fabricated that will be explained in a bit. So as far as i was concerned, this guy went the wayside of all other crackpot conspiracy theory nuts and religious zealots. And he faded into the background noise until he became a mere buzz of incoherentness. Then... then he had to introduce himself to me. One night, before it was time to make the set of my show, Alex starts hoopin and hollerin about some ratings he received as a result of this little hour or so of ranting he was able to do on KLBJ am. Apparently no one bothered to tell him what sort of people tend to listen to am radio, let alone what kind of people listen to am radio at night. Well, ratings are ratings and he was happy and proud that he had done so darn well. Okay, he's entitled to that. If you need ratings to have some sense of approval, and you need that approval to justify your esteem, then go for it. So as he's about to leave the building, he sees me working on a computer. He SCREAMS at me, "HI! I'M ALEX JONES!" Now, being a Texan of a much higher caliber than the likes of Clayton Williams (who steadfastly refused to shake the offered hand of Ann Richards when she offered it to him before a debate for the governorship of Texas), i went to shake the hand. Handshakes are important. You can tell a lot about a persons handshake, the way they use their eyes when they speak and on a more intimate level, the way someone uses their hands. Well, no sooner than had my hand joined with his when he withdrew it. "My name is She..." "I KNOW WHO YOU ARE. I'VE SEEN YOUR SHOW!" I honestly don't remember anymore than that. He stormed out of the door before any conversation could happen. Once again, he faded into the background; a noise much less significant than any gnat. Like i said, "Handshakes are important". -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Some weeks later i put a tagline on my show. It was custom to create and put some text on the screen (i worked with a static shot) that changed from week to week. This one week, i had gotten sick and tired of the irrelevant diatribes of the radical paranoid white trash hicks that now permiate the live shows of ACAC. So on my screen was the following tagline: The access show without a delusional conspiracy theory. So the show ended. Some people got a chuckle out of my tagline, but no one really remembered it. Heck, we never even once talked about the paranoid angry white male shows except to have an ocassional chuckle at their expense. And again... weeks later after i'd all but forgotten about this tagline, Alex approaches a young man named Sean who was at the studio to take my show over (something i enjoyed doing; being in front of the camera all of the time can become very boring). Sean was about 14 years old. Jones gets into his face when i'm in the restroom. I walked out to see Jones grilling Sean. "DID YOU CONSPIRE TO BUY THAT SHIRT OR DID YOUR MOTHER BUY IT FOR YOU?!?" (verbatim) Sean had become an unwitting victim of the one i would come to call, "Jarhead Jones". Sean, to his credit, shrugged him off by saying, "My mother bought it for me." Jarhead was momentarily stumped. "DID SOMEONE CONSPIRE TO MAKE HER BUY IT?!?" (again, verbatim), he cleverly responded . So there he was, this towering mass of anti-intellectualism steadfastly pointed at a 14 year old. And that was when he and i had words. I won't even bother to describe his attempt at rationale discussion. But to be fair, it was pretty sad of me to think that he'd listen to anything i said to him. For a sample of this persons incoherent ramblings and social retardation, listen to the first 3 or so minutes of this Real Audio clip of him (note: this link appears to be dead. If i can find it again, i will change it). More specifically, listen to the first caller trying to give Jarhead Jones some support. If you feel the need, please listen to more. If you decide that this is the kind of reactionist, white trash plebian rhetoric that appeals to you, more power to you. But that wasn't what really pissed me off about Jarhead. Sure, it takes an utter and complete coward to antagonize a 14 year old but what really set me off was this... So one night, i'm flipping through the channels. I see a segment of a 60 Minutes show on one of the access channels. Here's the setup: a SWAT team working with University Police somewhere in Florida, I believe. there was a voiceover of this particular clip. The voices of the original interviewees were replaced with Jarhead Jones saying things like, "...AND SO WE'RE DOING ALL OF THIS TO FUND THE POLICE STATE AS MANDATED BY THE UNITED NATIONS TO HELP IMPLEMENT THE NEW WORLD ORDER!" (note: this quote is of my own creation. Alex Jones is incapable of stringing together such a coherent thought... ask anyone who's listened to him) This bothered me. It really bothered me. I have been a producer at ACTV for most of this decade and a fan of it for longer. Most of that time, i've been witness to ACTV being under attack by the right wing...People like Jones who love to cry, "I've got rights!", but when questioned or they cross a line, then all of a sudden they're helpless persecuted victims. The concept of, "If you don't like what you see, exercise your right to change the channel!" has eluded these people. There's something about free speech being used by someone who is not subservient to the Radical Right that really pisses these people off. But i'm getting ahead of myself. It may not be readily clear why this pissed me off, but that should be explained atlength shortly. I posted the following letter at the ACTV studio. The letter was torn down by Alex Jones within the hour. |
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| shure | May 1 2009, 11:59 PM Post #3 |
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An Open Letter to ACAC Producers Dear Friends, Some weeks ago, I watched part of a program on either channel 10 or 16. Someone had recorded a segment of a 60 minutes episode about a SWAT team that was part of a University campus in Florida (I believe it was Florida). This segment had been altered by a narrator speaking over the voices of those who were being interviewed. Whatever their original opinions and comments were, were lost to the voice of the narrator. What bothered me about this show was not so much the fact that someone had shown someone else's work; in this case 60 Minutes. However, it is not unreasonable to think that CBS might find a legal reason to sue ACAC and the producers of the show that showed their for plagiarism and slander. This alteration was not satirical nor humorous and thus would not receive protection as such. Perhaps "Fair Use" would fall into this category, but given the fact that CBS' work had been altered by the narrator, I cannot help but to feel that the producer of the show put the institution of ACAC and thus, the community of other producers at serious risk of a lawsuit. For those of you who were part of ACTV/ ACAC a couple of years ago should remember the chilling effects that a lawsuit (the Infosex debacle), can have upon this establishment. What I found so disturbing about this program was the fact that the person "narrating" this story appeared to be interested only in convoluting and distorting the journalism of 60 Minutes to fit his own theories. For those of you who did not see this show, the narrator spoke over the voices of those in the story, filling their dialog with his own ideas which were incoherent at best. On a personal level, none of this disturbed me nearly as much as the fact that the narrator saw the 60 Minutes segment and those who were part of the story, as mere objects to be treated as puppets. He filled their mouths with words that weren't theirs, making human beings into inanimate objects that existed only for the sake of having them serve his own incoherent delusions. By writing this letter, I hope to raise awareness that there are some among us (Producers), who are jeopardizing the foundation that we all work so hard to maintain. That is, the personification of Free Speech, the ability to bring contemporary issues to the community of Austin (especially live television), the coverage of local artists/ musicians and the opportunity to create content for visual media. As a collective of Producers, we have worked far too hard to let anyone jeopardize the freedom that we (still) enjoy. Thank you for your time, Shelly Tumbleson Producer #1830 from 1992 to present. |
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| shure | May 2 2009, 12:00 AM Post #4 |
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When I wrote this letter, my goal was not to do any name calling. It was to raise awareness that there are factions of producers down here (at ACAC) who see Free Speech as an excuse to say anything they wish to, regardless of it's factual basis and regardless of the legal implications. By not pointing finger and naming names, I allowed those responseible for this "piece" to save face. The narrator was Jarhead, though to this day, I do not know who the producer was, nor the name of the show. I posted my letter on the producers board here at the studio. This board is a place for us to communicate to one another; whether it be a call for talent or an announcement or a statement; this board is a sanctuary for us to post our thoughts. However, in true paranoid fascist behavior, Jarhead removes my posts as soon as he can; provided that I'm out of sight. In true paranoid fascist behavior, free speech is good and well as long as no one stands up to challenge his delusions. Then again, he berates me (behind my back, of course), as untalented because i've only done 6 years of live television instead of of being a shock jock on the local white trash ranting radio station [which, as of the summer of 2000, went out of business]. Because of this behavior, I decided to spend some time on my last show talking about the mental deficiency and cowardice of these people. Such as, has anyone ever wondered why only uneducated to semi-educated white males call these shows? Perhaps they're not capable fo taking charge of their lives and thus need to blame someone else for their failures? They have a victims mentality. That is, everything that happens to them is the fault of someone else. It reveals their level of immaturity. I have heard this tripe before. Historically they have used words like, "degenerate", "subversive" and "immoral". They call themselves patriots, freedom fighters, avatars and all too often, they proclaim their actions, regardless of the cost or outcome, as the will of God. The fun continues... But there's more, so much more... A fellow producer related the following story to me. The names have been changed, except for a couple. The following is an excerpt of that letter. Bracketed "[ ]" areas are my own clarifications. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "His incessant pestering of me was completely centered around what an asshole you [ in reference to me ] are. At least 4 times during this mono-syllabic diatribe, he asked me not to tell you that he said this. OK Jarfuck. He challenged a man to "step outside"... the man (Steve) took him up on it, and whipped him like the little bitch that he is. Not being able to accept defeat...he claimed that 4 men with knives attacked him to stifle his free speech. OK...maybe many of us have been that humiliated in our lifetimes...But THEN he got Daddy to call in a favor, and he actually got the FBI to go to Fringeware to find Clayton's address. (Clayton is the first guy that he first tried to lure outside) He did this by concocting a story of him being one of the leaders of a "terrorist" organization called Anathema, which is affiliated with Fringeware." As the months went on, my source was harassed by this person, who tried to coerce him into believing that he had indeed been attacked by these guys with knives. Finally he [the source], explained that he knew the real story of what happened and that if Jarhead didn't shut up about the incident, he would call every radio and television show in town and explain what really occurred. After this letter, I received a more detailed account of what happened: "This is a long story, but the details make it so much more enjoyable! I'll be as brief as possible. This guy Clayton, a.k.a. SpaceHitler, had been pranking everybody at access for 7 years.(the "die-die-die guy"), including you. His favorite target was Jarhead. One Monday night Jeff Davis had his "Patriot Fun Show" Jeff dressed as Elvis, Jarhead dressed as a Booger Elf. Jeff's daughter/call screener, Crystal loved his pranks...and put one through on this night. After Jarhead was freaking out at the call, Clayton (henceforth referred to as C) called back. Crystal invited him to the show, saying that if Jarhead started anything...there were people there to stop it. C called me for a ride. As hard as it was, I declined. No way was I gonna put C and Jarhead together in one building. He found another ride, and brought along a crazy skater friend of his.(C is legally blind, so he doesn't drive) Upon arriving, C and co.(a total of 3 guys)were talking to whoever was at the desk, and Sir Jarhead the Booger Elf, a.k.a. Jarhead, recognized his voice...and began to berate him as best his little mind could manage. C is actually very smart, and was calmly pointing out Jarhead's swelling example of fascism. Jarhead became louder, and louder begging C to step outside. That is when Steve, said, and I quote. "I can't believe you're acting like this because he called you a Jarhead." He spun around and focused his fury on Mystery S. When he said "step outside, and I'll whip you like my bitch." Mystery S said OK, let's go...and led the way. Jarhead hesitated, then followed. As did Charlie (of The Show with No Name) and Kanya (no name co-host, & play toy) with C, and the driver. Jarheads next brave move was to announce that he had a gun, and began foraging around in his truck. Steve said, oh, now your gonna shoot me you pussy. Jarhead came from the truck with his hand in his pocket, and slowly advanced towards Steve. Steve retreated 2 or 3 steps, then said, "Then shoot me" and promptly nailed Jarhead with a right hook. They both just stood there for what seemed like a long time, then Steve let many more fly. Jarhead tried to throw one...that's right, one punch which grazed Steve's nose...like flicking at a booger. At this point Iggy came out of the studio. Jarhead saw him, and screamed for him to go get Bob. Iggy ran in to do his masters bidding. Steve hit him a few more times. By now Charlie had convinced C and his friend to get out of there. They got in the car, and split.(with Steve) Bob came running out, to see Jarhead bleeding profusely, and shouting "they jumped me with knives!" Charlie disputed this, so Jarhead spit blood on him...So Charlie, bless him, punched him right in that mason jar of a head. When the cops came, Jarhead was ranting and changing his story with each breath...began to talk of his importance...and his families wealth...and his relatives in the FBI!!! Nearly getting himself arrested. Herman saw the security tape of the incident, and related it, blow by blow, to (name deleted) and I the next night. The next day the ###### Cause Jumpers Brigade took over the airwaves. Greg Ericson...Jeff Davis etc. Most notably, Terry Liberty Parker. He called every show claiming Jarhead had been attacked in the parking lot by 4 guys with knives...held his own, breaking the biggest guy's nose.(Jarhead's version, of course.) And crying out about what a "Chilling Effect" this will have on free speech in Austin. Several of us called around to these same shows, telling the real story. We were cut off almost immediately on most shows. Terry began to call this a blame the victim campaign...and likened it to blaming a rape victim for the assault due to the length of her skirt. About a week after this began, I called Terry Liberty Parker at his home and let him have it. He would not hear anything I had to say. So I told him that if it took me the rest of my days, I would rub his nose in the "chilling effect" I (we) did. At one point TLP stopped hosting his 30 min Libertarian insert before Smash the State, thinking it would stop. It never has. Jarhead tells a whopper when he recounts this story...It seems to grow exponentially each time I hear it. What a pussy. He created Social security fraud, child pornography, and terrorism charges so he could bring in the Feds. The guys at Fringeware told the Feds, ######...bring a warrant. To the bureaus credit, they let it drop. To this day, these delusional buffoons still reference this "event" as proof that what they do is gravely dangerous. I have 6+ hours of footage of all of the flap on access that I have titled Jar Wars. So you see...lots of people do know the truth. That is why Jarhead freaks out so bad when somebody throws it in his face. The scary thing is that I believe Jarhead truly thinks his version IS the truth! For many weeks we lampooned these idiots on Night Talk. Clayton would call in as Jarhead, recounting how Ninjas with light sabers descended upon him to stamp out his free speech. You gotta hear some of these calls." |
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| shure | May 2 2009, 12:01 AM Post #5 |
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When I wrote this letter, my goal was not to do any name calling. It was to raise awareness that there are factions of producers down here (at ACAC) who see Free Speech as an excuse to say anything they wish to, regardless of it's factual basis and regardless of the legal implications. By not pointing finger and naming names, I allowed those responseible for this "piece" to save face. The narrator was Jarhead, though to this day, I do not know who the producer was, nor the name of the show. I posted my letter on the producers board here at the studio. This board is a place for us to communicate to one another; whether it be a call for talent or an announcement or a statement; this board is a sanctuary for us to post our thoughts. However, in true paranoid fascist behavior, Jarhead removes my posts as soon as he can; provided that I'm out of sight. In true paranoid fascist behavior, free speech is good and well as long as no one stands up to challenge his delusions. Then again, he berates me (behind my back, of course), as untalented because i've only done 6 years of live television instead of of being a shock jock on the local white trash ranting radio station [which, as of the summer of 2000, went out of business]. Because of this behavior, I decided to spend some time on my last show talking about the mental deficiency and cowardice of these people. Such as, has anyone ever wondered why only uneducated to semi-educated white males call these shows? Perhaps they're not capable fo taking charge of their lives and thus need to blame someone else for their failures? They have a victims mentality. That is, everything that happens to them is the fault of someone else. It reveals their level of immaturity. I have heard this tripe before. Historically they have used words like, "degenerate", "subversive" and "immoral". They call themselves patriots, freedom fighters, avatars and all too often, they proclaim their actions, regardless of the cost or outcome, as the will of God. The fun continues... But there's more, so much more... A fellow producer related the following story to me. The names have been changed, except for a couple. The following is an excerpt of that letter. Bracketed "[ ]" areas are my own clarifications. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "His incessant pestering of me was completely centered around what an asshole you [ in reference to me ] are. At least 4 times during this mono-syllabic diatribe, he asked me not to tell you that he said this. OK Jarfuck. He challenged a man to "step outside"... the man (Steve) took him up on it, and whipped him like the little bitch that he is. Not being able to accept defeat...he claimed that 4 men with knives attacked him to stifle his free speech. OK...maybe many of us have been that humiliated in our lifetimes...But THEN he got Daddy to call in a favor, and he actually got the FBI to go to Fringeware to find Clayton's address. (Clayton is the first guy that he first tried to lure outside) He did this by concocting a story of him being one of the leaders of a "terrorist" organization called Anathema, which is affiliated with Fringeware." As the months went on, my source was harassed by this person, who tried to coerce him into believing that he had indeed been attacked by these guys with knives. Finally he [the source], explained that he knew the real story of what happened and that if Jarhead didn't shut up about the incident, he would call every radio and television show in town and explain what really occurred. After this letter, I received a more detailed account of what happened: "This is a long story, but the details make it so much more enjoyable! I'll be as brief as possible. This guy Clayton, a.k.a. SpaceHitler, had been pranking everybody at access for 7 years.(the "die-die-die guy"), including you. His favorite target was Jarhead. One Monday night Jeff Davis had his "Patriot Fun Show" Jeff dressed as Elvis, Jarhead dressed as a Booger Elf. Jeff's daughter/call screener, Crystal loved his pranks...and put one through on this night. After Jarhead was freaking out at the call, Clayton (henceforth referred to as C) called back. Crystal invited him to the show, saying that if Jarhead started anything...there were people there to stop it. C called me for a ride. As hard as it was, I declined. No way was I gonna put C and Jarhead together in one building. He found another ride, and brought along a crazy skater friend of his.(C is legally blind, so he doesn't drive) Upon arriving, C and co.(a total of 3 guys)were talking to whoever was at the desk, and Sir Jarhead the Booger Elf, a.k.a. Jarhead, recognized his voice...and began to berate him as best his little mind could manage. C is actually very smart, and was calmly pointing out Jarhead's swelling example of fascism. Jarhead became louder, and louder begging C to step outside. That is when Steve, said, and I quote. "I can't believe you're acting like this because he called you a Jarhead." He spun around and focused his fury on Mystery S. When he said "step outside, and I'll whip you like my bitch." Mystery S said OK, let's go...and led the way. Jarhead hesitated, then followed. As did Charlie (of The Show with No Name) and Kanya (no name co-host, & play toy) with C, and the driver. Jarheads next brave move was to announce that he had a gun, and began foraging around in his truck. Steve said, oh, now your gonna shoot me you pussy. Jarhead came from the truck with his hand in his pocket, and slowly advanced towards Steve. Steve retreated 2 or 3 steps, then said, "Then shoot me" and promptly nailed Jarhead with a right hook. They both just stood there for what seemed like a long time, then Steve let many more fly. Jarhead tried to throw one...that's right, one punch which grazed Steve's nose...like flicking at a booger. At this point Iggy came out of the studio. Jarhead saw him, and screamed for him to go get Bob. Iggy ran in to do his masters bidding. Steve hit him a few more times. By now Charlie had convinced C and his friend to get out of there. They got in the car, and split.(with Steve) Bob came running out, to see Jarhead bleeding profusely, and shouting "they jumped me with knives!" Charlie disputed this, so Jarhead spit blood on him...So Charlie, bless him, punched him right in that mason jar of a head. When the cops came, Jarhead was ranting and changing his story with each breath...began to talk of his importance...and his families wealth...and his relatives in the FBI!!! Nearly getting himself arrested. Herman saw the security tape of the incident, and related it, blow by blow, to (name deleted) and I the next night. The next day the ###### Cause Jumpers Brigade took over the airwaves. Greg Ericson...Jeff Davis etc. Most notably, Terry Liberty Parker. He called every show claiming Jarhead had been attacked in the parking lot by 4 guys with knives...held his own, breaking the biggest guy's nose.(Jarhead's version, of course.) And crying out about what a "Chilling Effect" this will have on free speech in Austin. Several of us called around to these same shows, telling the real story. We were cut off almost immediately on most shows. Terry began to call this a blame the victim campaign...and likened it to blaming a rape victim for the assault due to the length of her skirt. About a week after this began, I called Terry Liberty Parker at his home and let him have it. He would not hear anything I had to say. So I told him that if it took me the rest of my days, I would rub his nose in the "chilling effect" I (we) did. At one point TLP stopped hosting his 30 min Libertarian insert before Smash the State, thinking it would stop. It never has. Jarhead tells a whopper when he recounts this story...It seems to grow exponentially each time I hear it. What a pussy. He created Social security fraud, child pornography, and terrorism charges so he could bring in the Feds. The guys at Fringeware told the Feds, ######...bring a warrant. To the bureaus credit, they let it drop. To this day, these delusional buffoons still reference this "event" as proof that what they do is gravely dangerous. I have 6+ hours of footage of all of the flap on access that I have titled Jar Wars. So you see...lots of people do know the truth. That is why Jarhead freaks out so bad when somebody throws it in his face. The scary thing is that I believe Jarhead truly thinks his version IS the truth! For many weeks we lampooned these idiots on Night Talk. Clayton would call in as Jarhead, recounting how Ninjas with light sabers descended upon him to stamp out his free speech. You gotta hear some of these calls." |
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| shure | May 2 2009, 12:01 AM Post #6 |
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I also found out that Jarhead left the studio with a lot of his blood decorating the lobby. He didn't even have the courtesy to clean his own mess up. Are you suprised at any of this? Neither is anyone else. Before i go any further with letting Alex Jones make even more of an ass of himself than he has already, i wanted to present a couple of items for your consideration. The DSM-IV, the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, Fourth Edition, is the benchmark for helping mental health experts determine the nature of a persons sickness. This book is readily availible at any decent bookstore. I found this passage last year and i thought it had Alex Jones written all over it. It describes the features of a manic episode. Now i'm not an expert at diagnosing these sorts of things but you may be (or you may just think you are). Read the following excerpts and decide for yourself if they resemble our favourite dunderpate or not. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Inflated self esteem is typically present, ranging from uncritical self-confidence tomarked grandiosity, and may reach delusional proportions (Criterion B1). Individuals may giveadvice on matters about which they have no special knowledge (e.g., how to run the United Nations).Despite lack of any particular experience or talent, the individual may embark on writing a novelor composing a symphony or seek publicity for some impractical invention. Grandiose delusions arecommon (e.g., having a special relationship to God or to some public figure from the political,religious, or entertainment world). Manic speech is typically pressured, loud, rapid and difficult to interrupt (Criterion B3). Individuals may talk nonstop, sometimes for hours on end and without regard for others wishes to communicate. Speech is sometimes characterized by joking, punning and amusing irrelevancies. Theindividual may become theatrical, with dramatic mannerisms and singing. Sounds rather than meaningfulconceptual relations may govern word choice (i.e. clanging). If the personsmood is more irritable thanexpansive, speech may be marked by complaints, hostile comments or angry tirades -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Now, i'm not saying that Jones *IS* a manic depressive or that he is constantly having manic depressiveepisodes, but i do think that there are grounds for suspecting him of being afflicted with manicdepression and/or other psychosis. But there's much more, both before and after the above quoted paragraphs. For a fair estimation of how accurate a Manic Episode is to the behaviour of Alex Jones,please read up and make your own decision. Judging from his behavior, i suspect Jones of being afflicted with one or a variety of mental ailments, but a cocaine habit might induce the same type of behavior. Should people take pity on Alex Jones? That's a tough one. Whatever afflictions he has, he appears to do nothing to try to overcome them. So while i have a tough time finding any pity for him, I think it's appropriate for people to find him pitiful. It's almost 2000. Where are the bombs and martial law and all that Armegeddon stuff that these assholes promised ? |
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| shure | May 2 2009, 12:02 AM Post #7 |
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It's November of 1999. The doomsday cults, New World Order Conspiracy Theorists, knee jerk uber-conservative hate groups and other fundamentalist terrorist organizations have long since gone underground. But Alex Jones remains. I moved back to Austin about half a year ago for reasons i do not care to discuss. And though nothing would bring me more pleasure than to tear down his theories with nothing more than logic, observation, rationale and reason (the antithesis of all that he is), the reality is that i simply do not care enough. He is incapable of reason, he cannot engage in dialog and anyone who challenges his "wisdom" is a subersive, working for the Illuminati, New World Order (whatever the group du jour is). This behavior is well documented in American History, by the way. It was called "Mc Carthyism". So as you probably know by looking around this site, i'm going back on the air with my new show, Box of Bugs. I might take potshots at the paranoid lunatic fringe, but why bother? i mean, their followers have "Gawd on their side.", so what's the chances of my persuading them to look at their conspiracy or their cult leader "jarhead jones" with unveiled eyes? i might as well go toss rocks at the moon. By the way, has it ever occured to anyone to sample the kind of people attracted to Jarhead Jones and his bunch? I've yet to find anyone other than semi educated white males with middle of the road kind of jobs following him. Coincidence? Maybe. But i think it merits remembering what other kind of groups in this country have attracted homogenous anglo/norman/saxon groups of men. As a side note, i thought i would add something to the story of my first meeting of Jarhead. I thought he was in his mid 40's. he looks tired, worn, stretched. The saying of "ridden hard and put away wet" comes to mind. Up close, he looks like someone who's done a few too many yards of cocaine in his life (which would nicely explain the behavior, btw). Then someone told me he's in his 20's. Draw your own conclusions. Check back here now and then. If i see something too precious to pass up, i'll be more than glad to post it. arigatoo goziamasu! shelly. |
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| shure | May 2 2009, 12:02 AM Post #8 |
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Many years ago i saw Alex Jones on Tee Vee for the first time. At first i thought he was just a big lug who liked to rant and scream for the sake of laughs. Like a daytime drama that takes itself too seriously, he was melodramatic, over the top and he was so full of himself that it was funny. Then he started imagining organizations, using only heresy and his own conjecture as proof. He started adopting a Mc Carthyist attitude towards anyone who questioned him, he started using Austin Access as his favorite venue for propigating his own mythologies, conjectures and half baked theories for the sake of promoting his website, infowars. Oh... did i mention that he sells videotapes on his site? They're pretty funny actually, even though he does manage to describe some serious issues in the process. For those of you who don't know, Jones is an ultra right wing Uber-Patriot who preys upon the feeble minded by instilling half truths, lies and paranoia into them. He then tells them that if they don't believe in HIS and ONLY his way, then they are leftist puppets being used by the United Nations, Secularists, Liberals, the "Elite Bankers" (be careful not to say "Jewish" there!), the "Hollywood Elite" (whatever that's supposed to mean), even Satanists (uh, free clue: there is no such thing as "Satan" except for number 18, Miroslav Satan, who plays for the Buffalo Sabres), and anyone else who's not a fantical right wing conspiracy nut. To get his maximum bandwidth, Jones has befriended many people who have become producers, most of whom allow him to show videotapes of him on their time. It is commonly believed that Jones takes it upon himself to monitor us "Leftist" producers and press charges on them for the most minor and trivial infraction. See the The Show With No Name debacle. Hopefully you've already read the first part of the Jarheadian Escapades. If not, take the time to do so. You won't be disappointed (unless you hate to read). Jones is a tireless self promoting popular personality here in Austin. But just because he's popular, that's not to say that he has any endearing qualities such as likeability, intelligence or leadership ability. Popularity just means you're known. Heck, David Duke is popular, Lydon la Rouche is popular, that child loving pop star, Michael Jackson, is popular. Even the suspected cross dressing J. Edgar Hoover was popular. So yes, even i have to concede that Jones is popular. His tactics remind me of the Mc Carthyist witch hunts of the 50's, or of the Red Guard in China during their revolution or more presently, of the Taliban of Afghanistan. And as he's gotten older, he's become more outrageous, incomprehensible, fantical and frankly, i think he's become dangerous. No... i do not believe he has the courage nor ability to plan an attack like someone like Eric Robert Rudolph, but i believe he is capable of influencing a feeble minded individual into doing so. But all of this aside, the reason i'm writing this is to let everyone know what's happened as of late. Some months ago, the Austin Chronicle ran an in depth article on the affairs of Austin Community Television . The opening editorial was in regard to Alex Jones. Of the many outstanding points that were made, Jones is a "tarbaby". No, that's not a racist comment for those of you who think like that. A "Tarbaby" is a journalistic and political term used to describe a scenario where the subject at hand is more likely to stick with you regardless of what you do to shake it. Typical tarbaby topics are generally abortion, gun control, etc... You can read the article here, or read below. July 14, 2000: The time has come to talk of Alex Jones. When the Chronicle editorial staff first considered how to cover the ongoing controversy at Austin Community Access Center (ACAC) regarding Jones, there was almost a consensus not to do it. The feeling was that regardless of what we said about Jones it would empower him, helping to further define him as a spokesperson in our community. There was also the tar baby concern -- once you got into it with Jones, you could never get out. The feeling was that despite his beliefs, his overriding goal was self-promotion. It was solely to his advantage to extend any interaction. The staff did not want to participate in any support, promotion, or ongoing dialogue with Jones, but the ACAC story is important to our community. Jones is an articulate, sometimes hypnotic, often just annoying conspiracy theorist -- black helicopters over our cities, Clinton's storm troopers rampaging through our streets, the Y2K computer crash used as an excuse for martial law (oh wait, that didn't happen, but the rest will). Through his ACAC show Info Wars, his canceled KJFK radio show, and such stunts as building a chapel at the Branch Davidian compound in Waco, Jones has gained notoriety. Unlike a journalist or historian, a conspiracy theorist starts out with an assumption, garners all information that supports their theory, and ignores or discredits information that disagrees with it. Jones seems driven more by getting media attention than any ideology. There are conspiracies everywhere and the forces of evil are sweeping our country: Smart Growth, free trade, light rail, Social Security, world government. Nefarious, usually unnamed, international conspiracies are busy controlling our lives. Jones does not offer specific political solutions (Jones' only solution actually is to encourage an ever-increasing paranoia about everything). I used to listen to Jones on the radio but eventually stopped because any participation -- even just listening -- supported the show. Jones loves to rant. Jones is the hero of most of his rants. There has never been anything he supported except freedom and the Constitution. I can imagine him roaring, "That is exactly the point!" -- except Jones uses them as straw men, props against which to place all the conspiracies invading our daily life. Still, I was sorry when KJFK took him off the air. I really think the society is richer for having many different voices. I thought it was a cowardly decision. Unfortunately, a number of ACAC producers think that Jones' respect and support for freedom of speech ends with those voices with which he personally agrees. The most recent controversy concerns Charlie Sotelo's The Show With No Name, which has been suspended by ACAC. At least partially at issue is Jones' role in The Show being taken off the air. Jones denies he had anything to do with it, and ACAC Board President John Villareal backs him up. There is also the concern, however, about how active Jones has been in monitoring other shows, especially those he doesn't like. Read Lee Nichols' piece on Jones and ACAC ("Mad TV," p. 34) and Marc Savlov's piece on Charlie Sotelo ("Access Denied," p. 36) and decide for yourself. On behalf of the staff, I ask that this not become a catalyst for becoming part of Jones' audience. Charlie Sotelo works for us at SXSW (us being managing director Roland Swenson, Nick Barbaro, and myself). Specifically Sotelo works on the film conference and festival. On Austin cable access, he has hosted The Show With No Name. Currently he is facing a 90-day suspension for showing a Nike commercial directed by David Fincher (Fight Club, The Game). Complaints were filed against Sotelo because access shows can't show commercials. Even though this Nike commercial was old and for a product no longer manufactured and clearly shown as an early work of an interesting director, it was decided that The Show violated this rule and should be suspended. Sotelo hosted this show long before he came to SXSW. In fact, one of the reasons he came to our attention is because he hosts the show. I've never seen it. At home we don't have cable. This is from no high moral anti-TV stance but because I'm a hopeless addict. Give me a remote control, and I'll go all night, never watching more than a minute of anything. So I haven't seen the show. Most everyone I know raves about it. Obscure beginning works by now-established talents are treasures to the film enthusiast. Sotelo has given me many tapes, and I get a special thrill from bits like Andy Kaufman's appearance as a contestant on The Dating Game for reasons that have nothing to do with The Dating Game. One can respect the ACAC board on this. It seems absurd to acknowledge this as a commercial rather than a rare work in a director's filmography, but if they make an exception this time, what happens when some group shoots some "arty commercial" for a local event and wants to run it on access because of their enthusiasm for it? The Sotelo exception could wreak havoc. Still, the shoes are not even on the market any more, and shouldn't ACAC be a place to showcase obscure but interesting works? The board is trying to reach some compromise with Sotelo on The Show and establish greater clarity regarding their policies. We'll see what happens. But what is shocking is that Alex Jones, the anti-authoritarian guerrilla freedom fighter, a champion of liberty, isn't leading the charge to reinstate Sotelo. What is more shocking is the notion that he freely admits to filing complaints against other broadcasters over the years. Vigilance and freedom, he reminds us on his shows, are the main defenses of liberty, but he doesn't seem to respect his own opinion, or anyone else's. |
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| shure | May 2 2009, 12:02 AM Post #9 |
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In the 14 July 2000 issue of the Austin Chronicle, Austin Access (ACAC) was covered at great length. Not just Jones and his brigand of rag tag conspiracy nuts with guns and more biblical scripture than you can shake a stick at, but Austin Access as the dysfunctional community that is usually is. But not all is wrong at ACAC. As is the case in most instances, a handful of radicals manage to steal the recognition and merits from others by tainting the entire organization. I have to give special recognition to The Reel Deal for not just an outstanding show, not just for being a shining example of diversity and tolerance, not just for being good enough to go pro (at least two of their crew do movie reviews for a local affiliate), but for showing that a group of people with a common goal can produce a really outstanding show and raise the bar of excellence for others to emulate. The article can be found here. It is kind of long, but worth the time to read. Here is an excerpt regarding what has become known as "The Parking Lot Incident", which is covered at length in the first part of my comments on Jones. In addition to creating tension between Sotelo and Jones, Thumbleson's Web site alleges the fight exacerbated a feud between Jones and "Steve's" friend, Clayton Counts. Counts is notorious, for lack of a better word, for making prank calls to ACAC call-in shows, especially Jones' show. Counts, who still maintains an Internet account on the server of the now-defunct bookstore Fringeware, said he suspects that Jones then called in the FBI and made bogus claims that Counts was a terrorist and possessed child pornography and got the bureau to raid Fringeware to get Counts' address. According to the Web page, the bureau later dropped the investigation. Just so it's clear, my last name is not "Thumbleson", though the story is in reference to my website. In reference to my conjecture that the Jones camp is obsessed with what other producers say and do ( for the sake of finding a reason to "bust" others for any infraction). The article goes on to say: The anti-Jones camp claims that if a fellow producer crosses Jones, he will watch their program obsessively until he finds a violation and turn that person in. Seeming to support that contention, Jones' producer Mike Hanson turned over dozens of hours of videotape of Side's show to the Chronicle, and said he had more. Now, these are just two minor excerpts that i'm using to draw a point. I really cannot urge you enough to take the time to read the entire article and draw your own conclusions. Unlike Jones, i cannot... will not say that i am somehow divine enough to know the categorical and unquestionable truth in things. I offer my thoughts, some resources and expect you, as adults, to decide for yourself. In closing this section of my thoughts, i offer the following comment on all radicals, be they left or right. It has been my experience that anyone who is so polar, so fanatical that they believe they are divine recipients of knowledge and truth, are also the first to proclaim that they are victims. The best example i can give of this in recent times is how anytime someone wants to maintain the separation of church and state, or insists that secular, scientific, plausible theories be taught in the classroom (as opposed to mythical parables that were designed for humanity when it was in its infancy), it is the extremist religious types who take it as an affront to their beliefs and consider sharing such thoughts (and subsequently dismissing the mythologies of their religion), who cry and bemoan at how they have become victims and are being oppressed. Without getting too sidetracked, it reminds me of a spokesman for the Catholic League who said Catholics were being opressed by Kevin Smith's Dogma. Yea, right. In that spirit, Jones makes the following comment in the article: "I am the abused one here," Jones responds. "I am not part of any rivalry. I'm just attempting to do my show. I just want to be left alone." Let me be very clear... Jones is as much as a victim as someone who wears a KKK outfit, stands in a ghetto and screams racial slurs. This comment (above) is wrong on three accounts. One: he is not simply interested in doing his show. He is interested in promoting his website and encouraging people to buy his "crockumentaries". Two: he does NOT want to be left alone. He craves any and all attention and will use any attention to draw more people to his website (again, see: "Buy my Crockumentary!"). Three: Jones' saying that he's not part of any rivalry is just plain laughable, silly and frankly... it's disturbing. Ask Christian Side (read the article for about Jones' lawsuit against Christian Side). Fanatics need to think they are being persecuted and opressed to reinforce their belief that their self righteousness is ordained by God Himself. (See also: Islamic Jihad, Hezbollah, Hamas, the Taliban, Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, Ralph Reed, Fred Phelps, Donald Wildimon, etc...) . As a side note, i can't help but to notice it's only been as of recent times that somehow the act of discovery and invention has become parallel to "satanism". Indeed, some of the most brilliant scientific minds, including but certainly not limited to the German engineers who built the American space program and Albert Einstein himself were scientists who saw their secular careers as extensions of their faith. But this too, is a discussion for another time. Please, take the time to read the article and Louis Black's Page Two editorial. When you're done with all of this (whew!), come back and check out the fallout. |
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| shure | May 2 2009, 12:03 AM Post #10 |
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So, the Chronicle ran the articles and as expected, the feedback the next week was pretty much 50/50. But for me there was a nagging problem. See... once upon a time, i watched an interview that Charlie Rose gave to Christine Amonpour. When he asked her about the journalists obligation to maintain neutrality in the events going on in Yugoslavia, her answer was profound. She said that there arises certain situations where neutrality towards the activities of a person or a group is basically the same as endorsing that behavior. In that regard, i wrote the following response to the Chronicle: Radical Misinformation To the Editor, I was very impressed with your coverage of Alex Jones ["Media Clips," July 14]. It was extremely unbiased and I suspect it might have taken a considerable amount of restraint to write this article. But in hindsight I have to wonder: Is being unbiased when covering Alex Jones tantamount to endorsing him? Simply put, he is a source of misinformation that many people listen to and believe without question. In the early 90s we called them Dittoheads . Whether it be Jones' claims that the Marines have some town in North Carolina under Martial Law (no proof has been given of course), whether it be Jones decrying "We are at war here, folks! Your government has declared war on you!" or be it Jones inability to correctly recall how and why he got into (and lost) a fight in the ACAC parking lot, the reality is that Alex Jones is incapable of distinguishing facts from fantasy (if he indeed was jumped by four men, one with a knife, how is it that he walked away alive and uncut?). It is my belief that in being unbiased toward Jones, it is way of giving him tacit credibility. Nonetheless, I commend the Chronicle on an outstanding editorial (Mr. Black's "Page 2" comments) and especially Mr. Nichols' journalism. But ultimately Alex Jones is to patriotism what Matt Drudge is to journalism and what hot dogs are to meat. He is a lightening rod for radicals and he must be questioned and discredited for each one of his unfounded claims. Shelly (last name withheld) ACTV/ACAC producer since 1992 If you'd rather see the letter in it's original context, including other letters that both support and rally against Jones, feel free to have a look. To his credit, i will admit that Jones HAS figured out some things. Namely that a market based conciousness is a path to ruin. What he HASN'T figured out is: journalism, accountability, credibility, social skills, production values, and in my opinion, he still doesn't grasp the finer points of integrity nor honor (or the rougher points for that matter). He also knows that when a people do not excersise their right to free speech, that governments will take those rights away. He's also got a clue that corporations will sacrifice individual rights both here and abroad for the sake of quarterly profits. So, kudos to him for those things. The main point of my letter to the Chronicle is pretty much the same point as the first part of my comments on him. That is, he is incapable of distinguishing facts from fantasy. The reality is that he did get into a fight that he started. He did get his ass whipped like a schoolyard bitch. He did get punched in the nose by Charlie Sotelo because he (Jones) wanted Sotelo to lie for him and when he (Sotelo) would not, Jones spit on him. If anyone doubts me, call his show and ask about "The Parking Lot Incident". Then watch his reaction. If nothing else, you'll find it a source of great amusement. Oh... I'd like to add something here. It seems that Jones has recently found that people have been reading the story about "The Parking Lot Incident". He's asked an associate of mine to tell me to tell me to remove it, or so i've heard. I guess if what i wrote wasn't factual, he would have filed suit by now; a common tactic of his. Speaking of removing things, there's a board at ACAC where any articles or letters that are published by the Chronicle or Austin American Statesman. The letters supporting Jones are still there as is the article regarding him and the editorial as well. There are a few pieces of mail that are posted from people who wrote in to rally to his defense as well. My letter, the one above, was there for a few days. It is gone now. I have taken the time to print up a few nice copies of it, and i repost it every week. Needless to say, it is taken down every week as well. I do not know who is doing it, but i know they are a very petty minded, insecure coward. So if you happen to be one of the lemmings who follow Jones around without an iota of integrity (which is what it would take to follow someone like that), then how can you justify putting any faith or stock in someone who CANNOT distinguish fantasy from reality? Oh... nevermind. If you follow Jones, chances are that you can't either. |
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| shure | May 2 2009, 12:04 AM Post #11 |
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Audio downloads: Alex Jones Censorship Cover-Up http://911underground.com/WING_TV_2005-05-05_Alex_Jones_Censorship_Cover-Up.MP3 Alex Jones Censors Archives: http://911underground.com/WING_TV_2005-05-04_Alex_Jones_Censors_Archives.MP3 |
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| shure | May 2 2009, 12:04 AM Post #12 |
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Alex Jones insults people who question the fake videos and calls them cointel pro getting paid big bucks to spread their lies: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHRgPfP8Kt0 |
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| shure | May 2 2009, 12:06 AM Post #13 |
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'The 9/11 Minority Report ' Why the 9/11 Movement was created by, and is fostered by the very people who carried out the attacks. http://www.kathymcmahon.utvinternet.com/mrn/audio/InsideTrackNews050507a.mp3 How the Fake 9/11 operators are part of the intelligence communities control http://www.kathymcmahon.utvinternet.com/mrn/audio/InsideTrackNews050805b.mp3 |
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| shure | May 2 2009, 12:07 AM Post #14 |
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The Alex Jones Affair: When one remembers that messy business in Waco involving the Branch Davidians, it's not difficult to think that Texas seems to be particularly in the grip of the Antichrist spirit. At this writing, another family there is also under siege. John Joseph Gray and his wife and kids have been in a stand-off with the authorities since January, 2000. His daughter and grandchildren were being sought for a custody battle as well. As in the Jane Davila case (see Christian Media Volume VI #1), this is simply the Beast encroaching into constitutionally guaranteed rights that are reserved to the individual. As a patriotic Christian man, John Gray has simply declared enough is enough and has refused to cooperate any further with the Beast system. The conflict stems from yet another attempt by the government to steal the children, because the government thinks they make better parents than children's own parents. This is particularly true for Christians, patriots, home-schoolers, and anyone else that stands up for their God given rights. This is the shape of things to come. Because the Texas authorities are still smarting from the extensive criticism they received during the Waco murders, in addition to the recent election of Texas favorite son George Bush Jr, thus far the Beast has not moved to take the Grays by force. However, they will most likely make a violent move against them at some point as government consistently tries to give the public the impression that 'resistance is futile.' What makes the Gray case particularly interesting is how the Patriot community has been deceived concerning what has really occurred there in Trinidad, Texas. The Genesis Communications Network, a so-called "patriot" network, and their premier host Alex Jones, have now been implicated in the betrayal of the Gray family. In addition to his visibility as a Shortwave/Satellite radio host on the Genesis Communications Network, Alex Jones is best known for his investigative videos that seek to expose various New World Order practices. Alex Jones' broadcast on Genesis is considered the flagship program of the network. Furthermore, Alex Jones is widely seen as one of the top patriot leaders in the American political underground. Likewise, Genesis (also called GCN) enjoys the leadership role in so-called "patriot" broadcasting. After the Gray siege began, Alex Jones and an associate named Mike Hansen went to the Gray property and asked John Gray if they could videotape an interview. John Gray agreed under one proviso: the tape footage was to be used for a documentary that could only be viewed after the siege was concluded. Alex Jones agreed to these conditions. It seems that after Jones shot the video he wanted, including footage from within the premises showing crucial defensive locations from within the Gray residence, Alex Jones turned around and sold the video tape to a television network to be aired on the 20/20 news magazine program! Furthermore, it has now been established that Ted Anderson, the head of the Genesis Communications Network, has participated in a cover-up to keep the public from learning the truth about the treachery of his top host! This incredible betrayal is very similar to that of Judas with his famous kiss. Both betrayals involved monetary compensation for the treachery. In the case of John Gray, the Alex Jones betrayal has placed the lives of the entire Gray household in jeopardy. Remember, the last time the authorities moved against Christians in Texas in a siege situation, they murdered everyone there — including the children. Because the Gray's revealed significant logistical information to Alex Jones on camera, that information is now in the hands of the Texas authorities because of the unwanted television broadcast. John Gray sought to get these facts out to the public. Based on his contacts with Genesis, it quickly became clear that Genesis was seeking to cover up the matter. Thinking that Genesis was unaware of the type of treachery Alex Jones had committed, Gray attempted to inform the radio network of what had happened. After several attempts of this nature, John Gray concluded that Ted Anderson, the head of Genesis, directly censored one of his own hosts (John Stadtmiller) that was attempting to tell the Gray story on the air. At that point, Gray was under the impression that Stadtmiller was interested in airing the truth, but he was being censored by Anderson. This was only partially true. After John Gray realized he had been betrayed by both Alex Jones and the Genesis Network, he wrote a letter to Christian Media's James Lloyd. We have reproduced that letter in its entirety (see John Gray Letter attached to this work). When I received the letter from John and Alicia Gray, I had already had several interactions with the Genesis people and had become convinced that the organization was completely corrupt and unscrupulous. It should be noted at this juncture that Alex Jones represents what is usually called 'the franchise' at Genesis. His program is the number one show on the network. Indeed, the entire business plan at GCN has been focused on furthering the listenership of Alex Jones through affiliate AM and FM stations. It's clear GCN has sought to make Alex Jones the next Michael Savage or Rush Limbaugh. The fact that radio figures like Savage (and even the CFR affiliated fraud Rush Limbaugh) have become so popular is because the country has experienced a shift in consensus to a hipper Republican right from the previous liberal left. Thus, GCN clearly hopes to ride that political swing to riches with their golden boy Alex Jones. Such media 'franchises' are worth millions of dollars — thus any public scrutiny that would expose Alex Jones as a cheap entertainer posing as a patriot would be disastrous for the large investment that Genesis has made in the Austin based broadcaster. After the Christian Media newspaper printed the story of Alex Jones' betrayal of a patriot Christian family to the mainstream television media, I received an angry phone call from John Stadtmiller. Although John Gray seems to be under the impression that Stadtmiller would have told the truth on the air concerning Alex Jones had it not been for Anderson's censorship, it is clear that John Stadtmiller's sympathies are with Alex Jones. The veteran "patriot" radio host indicated he would tell me the "truth" of the matter — a version of the "truth" that would presumably discredit John Gray and exonerate Alex Jones' from his role as Judas to John Gray's version of Jesus in the affair. However, Stadtmiller said he would only speak to me concerning the Alex Jones affair "off the record." This is precisely the sort of back-room tactic that brought Amerika to the desperate straits the country is currently experiencing. Indeed, if the US had a powerful media that was independent of the giant multi-national corporate tentacles of commerce, we would at least have a measure of balance in our present precarious political quagmire. A media 'watchdog' is a good thing as evil is frequently afraid to misbehave for fear of exposure. Thus, the 'smoke-filled room' deals that are made under conditions of secrecy are the antithesis of a fair and balanced media. It should also be stated that there is probably at least one inaccuracy in the John Gray letter (reproduced at the end of this essay). For example, there are indications the amount of money received by Alex Jones for the videotape he sold of the Gray siege defenses is likely overstated. John Gray can hardly be faulted if this figure is too high (having some familiarity with television, it sounds high to me for file clips purchased on the open market), as the flow of information to him has been severely hampered by the fact that he is barricaded away without regular contact with the outside world. And that's just the point. On the one side, the Gray family is in a siege position with arrest warrants issued if they come out of their defensive posture. On the other side, Alex Jones and Genesis refuse to comment in any way concerning the matter. Thus, a thorough examination of what really happened is being thwarted to this very day. Because the Grays are simply unable to provide more detail due to their circumstances, and Genesis is after all, a media organization that obviously wants no media attention to the matter, we can't help but conclude that Genesis is seeking to cover-up the truth of the Alex Jones affair. When John Stadtmiller called me after the story was printed in the Christian Media newspaper and said he would only speak off the record, I was faced with a choice. Because we are sincerely trying to behave in a New Testament fashion, and Jesus Christ has instructed me to "Let your yeas be yeas, and your nays be nays," I refused to speak off the record with John Stadtmiller. He angrily screamed at me and hung up the phone. I'm told by others this is how John concludes a significant number of his telephone conversations. Of course, one might theorize that John Stadtmiller wanted to 'dish the dirt' about Alex Jones and Genesis without jeopardizing his own position; but then John would have to explain why, as a professing Christian, he continues to maintain such close ties with such a sleazy bunch. After all, the Bible is very clear about being "unequally yoked" with evil. Or, it could be that John wanted to slander John Gray in some fashion in an effort to whitewash the simple fact that Alex Jones betrayed a patriot Christian family for money. The fact that Stadtmiller has since drawn considerably closer to Alex Jones — even regularly co-hosting programs with him on Genesis — leads me to believe that this phone call was just another effort at damage control, and that the entire organization is one large commercial mouse-trap simply masquerading as patriots in a transparent effort at empire building. Indeed, in virtually every exposure I've had with Alex Jones, the Genesis management, and the network's hosts, I've had the impression that GCN is just a loose coalition of liars that posture as patriots so the public will support their programs And apparently the listeners are considered fair game. For instance, at least one GCN listener wrote to me stating that GCN (which is backed by a gold and silver brokerage and the Berkey water filter people) had offered a precious metal coin as a premium to anyone that made a specific donation to another "paytriot" broadcaster named Pastor Butch Paugh. This listener sent in funds, but Ted Anderson (who heads Midas Resources as well as Genesis) refused to honor his own offer! There are several other incidents of this nature that indicate John Gray's expectation that Alex Jones and GCN are actually interested in the truth is unrealistic. Christian Media has repeatedly sought to expose the treachery at the Genesis Communications Network for several years now. They stole their original equipment from another patriot network named Republic Radio. Fraudulently claiming they had purchased the network, the management of Genesis literally backed up a U-Haul, and loaded up the broadcasting equipment while the rightful owner was out of town! The victim of this theft was Loris Thompkins, then owner of the now defunct Republic Radio Network. Loris then formed the Heritage Network and promptly sued Genesis for their theft of her assets. In an interesting side note, although the Genesis Network was defended by a high-priced law firm, Loris was helped by certain patriot figures conversant in law as she sued Genesis on a pro-se basis representing herself. This was because the stolen network represented her entire net worth and she was virtually penniless after being fleeced by Genesis. Ted "Goldfinger" Anderson (the key man at Genesis and gold broker Midas Resources), on the other hand, is said to be a millionaire. In case anyone is interested, Loris Thompkins has now been proven to be the wronged party. On February 22, 2001, Genesis settled with Loris Thompkins for a significant sum of money. This is the equivalent of a tacit admission of guilt. Incidentally, a complete history of the Genesis Communications Network, including its unsavory origin through theft and deceit, is covered in the book Shortwave Wars (see the catalog at Christianmedianetwork.com). Also, Loris Thompkins periodically addresses the subject on radio as she now broadcasts on The Christian Media Network with a program called To Tell The Truth. Over the last couple of years, John and Alicia Gray have sent out several handwritten letters updating their status. They have steadfastly stuck by their charges that Alex Jones sold them out to the authorities. Conversely, Alex Jones has steadfastly refused to publicly account for his role in the matter. Genesis, and every host that has any knowledge of the matter, has uniformly refused to address the issue in any public forum. All callers to any of the various GCN programs that even hint of mentioning the matter are immediately taken off the air and hung up on. The Genesis tactic has been to completely bury the story, and refuse to allow any scrutiny of Alex Jones. At this point, it should be clear to all informed parties that the trust which has been placed in the Genesis network in general, and Alex Jones in particular, is misplaced. To put it another way, would you want to be in a foxhole with someone who would sell you out for money? —— James Lloyd http://www.christianmediaresearch.com/jones.html ------------------------------------------------------- The John Gray Letter (The following is a computer transcript taken word for word, without editing, from the handwritten letter sent to Christian Media by the Gray family — as it was printed in Christian Media, Volume VII, Issue 3) Dear James Lloyd, we support you in what you are teaching. We know the frustration within your heart about friends you think you have that forsake you. A story I can tell you about Ted Anderson and Alex Jones (Genesis Communications Network). I don't know if you are familiar with my situation here in Trinidad, Texas or not, but my name is John Joe Gray. I've been in a standoff with the highway bandits since January 8, 2000 when I was released from jail. We got word the authorities were coming in on us in August of 2000. Alex Jones and Mike Hanson came out late that night and did some video taping at the gate. Alex promised me this would only be used for documentary purposes when this was all over. We had several witnesses to this. Alex came back twice within a week or so and wanted to film more. He also assured us again none of the video would be shown anywhere. Alex later called and asked about 20/20 interviewing me. I did the interview at my gate, not down at my house. Alex kept asking me to let 20/20 video at my house which I kept telling him no! I told Alex he was the only one I had let video around the house and that was only for a documentary. The day 20/20 was to air my story, Alex called me and said he had done something very wrong. He had let 20/20 have the video. They aired it, then patriots came and talked to me — John Stadtmiller being one of them. I told John that Alex said he had sold the video to 20/20 for $700.00. A few days later, Alex and Mike showed back up out here wanting to know how we could work this out. I told Alex just to apologize to me and to get on the air and apologize and tell the patriots what he had done. Alex was afraid the bad patriots would take him out, those were his words. I talked with John Stadtmiller on the air about people betraying me and mentioned Alex's name. After I got off the air a guy by the name of Keith who knew Alex came on the air. Keith said Alex told him that he had a signed contract with me. John wanted me to come back on the air to verify if this was true. When I called back, Ted Anderson would not let John put me back on the air. After the show I called Ted Anderson at his request. He wouldn't let me talk on the air because he didn't want his hosts to be squabbling on the air. I just wanted to verify that I didn't sign a contract or give Alex any permission to air the video on 20/20. This guy Keith also said on the air that day that Alex received $25,000 for the video he sold to 20/20. We found out later that Alex had sold the video to 20/20 before coming back the second time. This is what Alex told us. We shall know them by their fruits. You cannot serve two masters! God be with you and keep you and bless your network. [signed] — Joe, Alicia and family |
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| shure | May 2 2009, 12:08 AM Post #15 |
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 Alex Jones under new Multiple Video Attack http://www.bloglines.com/blog/ewing2001?id=4093 October 13, 2007 picked up at: http://911videomashups.blogspot.com Alex Jones: Disinfo or Stupid? Added: October 12, 2007 From: pumpitout http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHRgPfP8Kt0 Alex Jones Mock Interview (part 1 of 2) 09:00 Added: October 10, 2007 From: SlimeBuster http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ObRVhSX4Rs Alex Jones calls Mark Dice. Pissed at Troy. 4 of 6 Added: October 12, 2007 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3p1aTi3pzI http://www.youtube.com/user/troyfromwv Fintan Dunne on Alex Jones 56:49 Added: October 12, 2007 From: tlthe5th http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvp5-NgbMIo AlexJones Project Mockingbird CIA Agent and more http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMpU56Z07Dg William Cooper exposes SCAREMONGER Jesuit-CIA Alex Jones 1/6 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAgTFWglHrc 9/11 Anniversary: On Alex Jones' neck while he responds with staged cell fone call http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3coSicGz_l0 NWO PLAN TO CREATE INSURGENCY: LIES OF ALEX JONES http://www.mefeedia.com/entry/3659459/ Yet again Bill Cooper exposes Alex Jones as a LIAR! Youtube link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJ82zk8ycfs |
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