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I think this might be the cartoon of the year

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Jun 25 2009, 07:20 AM
I think this might be the cartoon of the year

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I'd rather have insurance companies in charge of my health care than the people who run the Post Office, Amtrak and the DMV.
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Dean
Jun 25 2009, 07:31 AM
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Jun 25 2009, 07:20 AM
I think this might be the cartoon of the year

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I'd rather have insurance companies in charge of my health care than the people who run the Post Office, Amtrak and the DMV.
What the hell is wrong with the post office?

These people will come to your home, pick up an envelope and deliver it clear on the other side of the county a few days later.... for 44 cents.

If insurance companies were only as inexpensive and efficient as the post office is compared to its commercial counterparts, we wouldn't have any issues with healthcare costs and service in this country.
Edited by Klecko73isGod, Jun 25 2009, 08:18 AM.
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Jun 25 2009, 07:31 AM
I'd rather have insurance companies in charge of my health care than the people who run the Post Office, Amtrak and the DMV. In fact, the painful bureaucracy and idiotic redundant paperwork associated with a health insurance company makes the DMV seem as simple as ordering hot dogs from a street vendor.
It's pretty obvious you've never had the "opportunity" to deal with an insurance company for an extended period of time.

There is absolutely no difference between the customer service and level of bureaucracy of a DMV and an insurance company.
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Klecko73isGod
Jun 25 2009, 08:04 AM
What the hell is wrong with the post office?

These people will come to your home, pick up an envelope and deliver it clear on the other side of the county a few days later.... for 44 cents.

If insurance companies were only as inexpensive and efficient as the post office is compared to its commercial counterparts, we wouldn't have any issues with healthcare costs and service in this country.
The Post Office is efficient? :rofl:
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Dean
Jun 25 2009, 10:09 AM
Klecko73isGod
Jun 25 2009, 08:04 AM
What the hell is wrong with the post office?

These people will come to your home, pick up an envelope and deliver it clear on the other side of the county a few days later.... for 44 cents.

If insurance companies were only as inexpensive and efficient as the post office is compared to its commercial counterparts, we wouldn't have any issues with healthcare costs and service in this country.
The Post Office is efficient? :rofl:
Compared to health insurance companies? Yes.
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Ernie
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Dean
Jun 25 2009, 10:09 AM
Klecko73isGod
Jun 25 2009, 08:04 AM
What the hell is wrong with the post office?

These people will come to your home, pick up an envelope and deliver it clear on the other side of the county a few days later.... for 44 cents.

If insurance companies were only as inexpensive and efficient as the post office is compared to its commercial counterparts, we wouldn't have any issues with healthcare costs and service in this country.
The Post Office is efficient? :rofl:
The Post Office does provide quick service, the problem is the bureaucracy. Way too many employees- not the front line type, but the middle management. Some fat can be trimmed there, without a doubt that's the truth.
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Jun 25 2009, 10:09 AM
The Post Office is efficient? :rofl:
5 billion Revenue in 2008, in dollars
203 billion Total mail volume processed in 2008, in pieces
667 million Average amount of mail processed each day
28 million Average amount of mail processed each hour
463,000 Average amount of mail processed each minute
7,700 Average amount of mail processed each second
46 Percentage of the world’s card and letter mail volume handled by the United States Postal Service
835 million Number of pieces of international mail processed
2.1 billion Dollar amount paid every two weeks in salaries and benefits
656,000 Number of career employees
221,000 Number of vehicles in our fleet — the largest civilian fleet in the world
1.2 billion Number of miles driven each year by our letter carriers and professional truck drivers
121 million Number of gallons of fuel used in 2008
32,741 Number of Post Offices™ nationwide
14 Percent of the nation’s population that moves annually
46 million Number of address changes processed every year
1.2 million Number of people who visit usps.com® each day
442 million Revenue from online stamp and retail sales at usps.com
8.5 million Number of passport applications accepted in 2008
597,000 Average number of Postal Service Money Orders issued daily
510 million Revenue from nearly 92 million transactions on 2,500 Automated Postal Centers® in 2008
56,659 Number of stores and banks that sell postage stamps
1.2 million Number of new delivery points added to the network in 2008
0 Tax dollars received for operating the Postal Service
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Klecko73isGod

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Jun 25 2009, 11:45 AM
Dean
Jun 25 2009, 10:09 AM
The Post Office is efficient? :rofl:
5 billionRevenue in 2008, in dollars
203 billionTotal mail volume processed in 2008, in pieces
667 millionAverage amount of mail processed each day
28 millionAverage amount of mail processed each hour
463,000Average amount of mail processed each minute
7,700 Average amount of mail processed each second
46 Percentage of the world’s card and letter mail volume handled by the United States Postal Service
835 millionNumber of pieces of international mail processed
2.1 billionDollar amount paid every two weeks in salaries and benefits
656,000Number of career employees
221,000Number of vehicles in our fleet — the largest civilian fleet in the world
1.2 billionNumber of miles driven each year by our letter carriers and professional truck drivers
121 millionNumber of gallons of fuel used in 2008
32,741Number of Post Offices™ nationwide
14 Percent of the nation’s population that moves annually
46 millionNumber of address changes processed every year
1.2 millionNumber of people who visit usps.com® each day
442 millionRevenue from online stamp and retail sales at usps.com
8.5 millionNumber of passport applications accepted in 2008
597,000Average number of Postal Service Money Orders issued daily
510 millionRevenue from nearly 92 million transactions on 2,500 Automated Postal Centers® in 2008
56,659Number of stores and banks that sell postage stamps
1.2 millionNumber of new delivery points added to the network in 2008
[/b]0 Tax dollars received for operating the Postal Service[/b]
Yeah, the government can't do anything cheaply or effectively. :rolleyes:
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Ernie
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Klecko73isGod
Jun 25 2009, 12:31 PM
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Jun 25 2009, 11:45 AM

Quoting limited to 2 levels deep[/b]0 Tax dollars received for operating the Postal Service[/b]
Yeah, the government can't do anything cheaply or effectively. :rolleyes:
It could be more efficient, though. Lots of excess bagage.

To suggest that the government would be able to run healthcare efficiently is an extrapolation that is untruthful. Because they can deliver mail means they can deliver healthcare? And yes, that is where you were going with your reply, Brother Klecko. :yes:
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Ernie
Jun 25 2009, 12:51 PM
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Jun 25 2009, 12:31 PM

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It could be more efficient, though. Lots of excess bagage.

To suggest that the government would be able to run healthcare efficiently is an extrapolation that is untruthful. Because they can deliver mail means they can deliver healthcare? And yes, that is where you were going with your reply, Brother Klecko. :yes:

Actually, no. You see that's the difference between me and you - I don't see everything in black and white terms, the world is far more complicated than that. And had you read any of my posts on health care before you'd know that I am not in favor of a single payer or universal or socialized system or whatever you call it.

I am, however, in favor of a government OPTION. See that's the key word that is being unfairly and inaccurately characterized by the neo-cons.

The President wants to provide a government run OPTION for healthcare. Look up the meaning of the word. You won't find the word "takeover" in the definition.

Personally I won't be affected by this if the President gets what he wants, which is if you have a healthcare plan you like, you can keep it, the only difference being that we can take steps to make it less expensive (My company provides us with health coverage that is free to us so I won't be changing mine) if you want something different or less expensive, the government will provide an alternative plan that anyone can take part in. He also plans to provide tax breaks to small business owners who provide healthcare to their employees.

That's it. That's Obama's "radical" health care plan. I know this because I've heard him say it a dozen times. It's also spelled out pretty much just that same way on his website.

Making it out to be anything different from that is nothing but a bold-faced lie.

I honestly don't see how anyone is against making healthcare less expensive and more readily available.
Edited by Klecko73isGod, Jun 25 2009, 01:06 PM.
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Jun 25 2009, 01:05 PM
Ernie
Jun 25 2009, 12:51 PM

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Actually, no. You see that's the difference between me and you - I don't see everything in black and white terms, the world is far more complicated than that. And had you read any of my posts on health care before you'd know that I am not in favor of a single payer or universal or socialized system or whatever you call it.

I am, however, in favor of a government OPTION. See that's the key word that is being unfairly and inaccurately characterized by the neo-cons.

The President wants to provide a government run OPTION for healthcare. Look up the meaning of the word. You won't find the word "takeover" in the definition.

Personally I won't be affected by this if the President gets what he wants, which is if you have a healthcare plan you like, you can keep it, the only difference being that we can take steps to make it less expensive (My company provides us with health coverage that is free to us so I won't be changing mine) if you want something different or less expensive, the government will provide an alternative plan that anyone can take part in. He also plans to provide tax breaks to small business owners who provide healthcare to their employees.

That's it. That's Obama's "radical" health care plan. I know this because I've heard him say it a dozen times. It's also spelled out pretty much just that same way on his website.

Making it out to be anything different from that is nothing but a bold-faced lie.

I honestly don't see how anyone is against making healthcare less expensive and more readily available.
I congratulate you on a good post, Brother Klecko. You have some good thoughts here, plus no profanity. Keep it up.
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Ernie
Jun 25 2009, 01:07 PM
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Jun 25 2009, 01:05 PM

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I congratulate you on a good post, Brother Klecko. You have some good thoughts here, plus no profanity. Keep it up.
So I take it you agree that Obama is not trying to mastermind an evil government takeover of health care?

Don't let the sisterhood hear you say that.
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Jun 25 2009, 01:10 PM
Ernie
Jun 25 2009, 01:07 PM

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So I take it you agree that Obama is not trying to mastermind an evil government takeover of health care?

Don't let the sisterhood hear you say that.
I think Obama is in over his head, especially with regards to healthcare. I was more admiring how you put together a cogent argument and discussion, without resorting to profanity. It was refreshing to read. Just giving a compliment.
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Ernie
Jun 25 2009, 01:41 PM
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Jun 25 2009, 01:10 PM

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I think Obama is in over his head, especially with regards to healthcare. I was more admiring how you put together a cogent argument and discussion, without resorting to profanity. It was refreshing to read. Just giving a compliment.
And that's completely unnecessary and quite frankly, its not your job to do that.

Passive aggressive pricks like you are the reason most people curse.
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Jun 25 2009, 01:54 PM
Ernie
Jun 25 2009, 01:41 PM

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And that's completely unnecessary and quite frankly, its not your job to do that.

Passive aggressive pricks like you are the reason most people curse.
:nono: A simple "thanks" would have been sufficient.
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Ernie
Jun 25 2009, 02:01 PM
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Jun 25 2009, 01:54 PM

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:nono: A simple "thanks" would have been sufficient.
Plus, you're a last-word junkie which is really fucking annoying.
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Jun 25 2009, 02:05 PM
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Plus, you're a last-word junkie which is really fucking annoying.
It is my thread.
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