Nah, I really mean it. Not doing it just to poke fun. I dont like thrash, but have never seen Slayers appeal. Just like Lars drum timing is all over the place, I dont think Kerry even bothers to tune and the riffs just seem blah. I dont see how Slayer ever got considered one of the big 4.
I'll agree on Lars, he's by far the least talented member of Metallica... which has absolutely nothing to do with Slayer.
Nah, I really mean it. Not doing it just to poke fun. I dont like thrash, but have never seen Slayers appeal. Just like Lars drum timing is all over the place, I dont think Kerry even bothers to tune and the riffs just seem blah. I dont see how Slayer ever got considered one of the big 4.
Ok, I'll bite. Slayer's original drummer is Dave Lombardo. Lombardo is universally recognized as a great drummer, one of the best. The drummer in the video is Paul Bastoph, another incredible drummer. So on that front you don't know what you're talking about.
Kerry King and Jeff Hanneman were mediocre guitarists but came up with some of the most memorable guitar riffs in all of Metal. King has improved over the years.. Hanneman unfortunately passed away. His replacement, who you can see in the video, is Gary Holt, a founding member of Exodus and a great guitar player. You have a tendency to let your biases taint your objectivity. You don't like Thrash therefore the musicianship sucks.
Slayer's popularity lies in their merger of metal with hardcore Punk. You've got metal riffs and lyrical themes mixed with the speed, anger and aggression of hardcore Punk. King and Hanneman were great song writers and their riffs all manage to sound evil as hell. Lombardo's off the hook double-bass fill-laden drumming ties it all together. Oh yeah, and Tom Araya is one of the best screamers in the business.
It's cool if you don't like Thrash but please don't shit over one of the genre's most beloved bands.
I dont think you understood my Lars/Kerry comment--it had nothing to do with the double bass drum pedal gimmick you love. The meaning was that just as Lars is a crappy drummer, Kerry King is a crappy guitar player. Both guys have sold alot of records so their limitations havent hurt their fanbase. I always saw Slayer as a sub genre of even thrash where their "evil" gimmick was more akin to Rob Zombies satanic cowboy gimmick than to the "youth-thrash" from which Metallica and Megadeth came from.
So yeah, I think Slayer suck. But I also think The Doors and the Grateful Dead sucked too but some fans treat them as gods.
In a previous post you diss the drummer too. I like all kinds of drumming not just Thrash just as I like all kinds of music. Anyway, I answered your question by explaining their popularity. Your welcome.
Virtuosity isn't necessary to sell a shit-ton of records, you just need to write and record good songs. Slayer has done that in spades and they're nothing if not consistent. Whereas Metallica saw a steep decline in record/song quality after AJFA, Slayer has released one kick ass album after another for going on 40 years! It's weird, whenever I'm driving and I've got my flashdrive on shuffle, I often find myself skipping song after song but whenever I hit a slayer track I almost always listen to it. Whatever formula they've got, it's a good one.
You like Slayer, I like the Ramones and neither band plays worth a shit.
Comparing Slayer to the Ramones is like comparing Beethoven to The Partridge Family.
You mentioned Slayer and Punk. The Ramones were ground zero for punk. Hespect!
Nah, I really mean it. Not doing it just to poke fun. I dont like thrash, but have never seen Slayers appeal. Just like Lars drum timing is all over the place, I dont think Kerry even bothers to tune and the riffs just seem blah. I dont see how Slayer ever got considered one of the big 4.
I'll agree on Lars, he's by far the least talented member of Metallica... which has absolutely nothing to do with Slayer.
Nah, I really mean it. Not doing it just to poke fun. I dont like thrash, but have never seen Slayers appeal. Just like Lars drum timing is all over the place, I dont think Kerry even bothers to tune and the riffs just seem blah. I dont see how Slayer ever got considered one of the big 4.
Ok, I'll bite. Slayer's original drummer is Dave Lombardo. Lombardo is universally recognized as a great drummer, one of the best. The drummer in the video is Paul Bastoph, another incredible drummer. So on that front you don't know what you're talking about.
Kerry King and Jeff Hanneman were mediocre guitarists but came up with some of the most memorable guitar riffs in all of Metal. King has improved over the years.. Hanneman unfortunately passed away. His replacement, who you can see in the video, is Gary Holt, a founding member of Exodus and a great guitar player. You have a tendency to let your biases taint your objectivity. You don't like Thrash therefore the musicianship sucks.
Slayer's popularity lies in their merger of metal with hardcore Punk. You've got metal riffs and lyrical themes mixed with the speed, anger and aggression of hardcore Punk. King and Hanneman were great song writers and their riffs all manage to sound evil as hell. Lombardo's off the hook double-bass fill-laden drumming ties it all together. Oh yeah, and Tom Araya is one of the best screamers in the business.
It's cool if you don't like Thrash but please don't shit over one of the genre's most beloved bands.
I dont think you understood my Lars/Kerry comment--it had nothing to do with the double bass drum pedal gimmick you love. The meaning was that just as Lars is a crappy drummer, Kerry King is a crappy guitar player. Both guys have sold alot of records so their limitations havent hurt their fanbase. I always saw Slayer as a sub genre of even thrash where their "evil" gimmick was more akin to Rob Zombies satanic cowboy gimmick than to the "youth-thrash" from which Metallica and Megadeth came from.
So yeah, I think Slayer suck. But I also think The Doors and the Grateful Dead sucked too but some fans treat them as gods.
In a previous post you diss the drummer too. I like all kinds of drumming not just Thrash just as I like all kinds of music. Anyway, I answered your question by explaining their popularity. Your welcome.
Virtuosity isn't necessary to sell a shit-ton of records, you just need to write and record good songs. Slayer has done that in spades and they're nothing if not consistent. Whereas Metallica saw a steep decline in record/song quality after AJFA, Slayer has released one kick ass album after another for going on 40 years! It's weird, whenever I'm driving and I've got my flashdrive on shuffle, I often find myself skipping song after song but whenever I hit a slayer track I almost always listen to it. Whatever formula they've got, it's a good one.
You like Slayer, I like the Ramones and neither band plays worth a shit.
Comparing Slayer to the Ramones is like comparing Beethoven to The Partridge Family.
You mentioned Slayer and Punk. The Ramones were ground zero for punk. Hespect!
Nah, I really mean it. Not doing it just to poke fun. I dont like thrash, but have never seen Slayers appeal. Just like Lars drum timing is all over the place, I dont think Kerry even bothers to tune and the riffs just seem blah. I dont see how Slayer ever got considered one of the big 4.
Ok, I'll bite. Slayer's original drummer is Dave Lombardo. Lombardo is universally recognized as a great drummer, one of the best. The drummer in the video is Paul Bastoph, another incredible drummer. So on that front you don't know what you're talking about.
Kerry King and Jeff Hanneman were mediocre guitarists but came up with some of the most memorable guitar riffs in all of Metal. King has improved over the years.. Hanneman unfortunately passed away. His replacement, who you can see in the video, is Gary Holt, a founding member of Exodus and a great guitar player. You have a tendency to let your biases taint your objectivity. You don't like Thrash therefore the musicianship sucks.
Slayer's popularity lies in their merger of metal with hardcore Punk. You've got metal riffs and lyrical themes mixed with the speed, anger and aggression of hardcore Punk. King and Hanneman were great song writers and their riffs all manage to sound evil as hell. Lombardo's off the hook double-bass fill-laden drumming ties it all together. Oh yeah, and Tom Araya is one of the best screamers in the business.
It's cool if you don't like Thrash but please don't shit over one of the genre's most beloved bands.
I dont think you understood my Lars/Kerry comment--it had nothing to do with the double bass drum pedal gimmick you love. The meaning was that just as Lars is a crappy drummer, Kerry King is a crappy guitar player. Both guys have sold alot of records so their limitations havent hurt their fanbase. I always saw Slayer as a sub genre of even thrash where their "evil" gimmick was more akin to Rob Zombies satanic cowboy gimmick than to the "youth-thrash" from which Metallica and Megadeth came from.
So yeah, I think Slayer suck. But I also think The Doors and the Grateful Dead sucked too but some fans treat them as gods.
In a previous post you diss the drummer too. I like all kinds of drumming not just Thrash just as I like all kinds of music. Anyway, I answered your question by explaining their popularity. Your welcome.
Virtuosity isn't necessary to sell a shit-ton of records, you just need to write and record good songs. Slayer has done that in spades and they're nothing if not consistent. Whereas Metallica saw a steep decline in record/song quality after AJFA, Slayer has released one kick ass album after another for going on 40 years! It's weird, whenever I'm driving and I've got my flashdrive on shuffle, I often find myself skipping song after song but whenever I hit a slayer track I almost always listen to it. Whatever formula they've got, it's a good one.
You like Slayer, I like the Ramones and neither band plays worth a shit.
Comparing Slayer to the Ramones is like comparing Beethoven to The Partridge Family.
You mentioned Slayer and Punk. The Ramones were ground zero for punk. Hespect!
I like the Ramones too.
The impetus for all that--whether thrash or original punk was disaffected youth. its typically not something that ages well. Being a punk at 18 is rebellious. Being one at 50 is a bit sad. I dont fault them for making money though.
If you go to any concert where the band has been around for almost 40 years, I guarantee you that at least half the audience are going to be old farts reliving their youth and many of them will have their kids in tow.
Nah, I really mean it. Not doing it just to poke fun. I dont like thrash, but have never seen Slayers appeal. Just like Lars drum timing is all over the place, I dont think Kerry even bothers to tune and the riffs just seem blah. I dont see how Slayer ever got considered one of the big 4.
I'll agree on Lars, he's by far the least talented member of Metallica... which has absolutely nothing to do with Slayer.
Maybe that KK is the least talented of Slayer?
You Slayer fan bois sure are a sensitive lot.
not a fan boy. I was really into Slayer very early on (Haunting the Chapel, Show No Mercy, Hell Awaits [personal favorite], and Rein in Blood). South of Heaven kind of lost it for me and I never got back into them. No denying their body of work or their place in metal history, though. I'm mostly classic rock these days.
If you go to any concert where the band has been around for almost 40 years, I guarantee you that at least half the audience are going to old farts reliving their youth and many of them will have their kids in tow.
And as the kids look up at on overweight 55 year olde bald guitar player, red faced and huffing from the exertion of trying to keep up the tempo, they are thinking....dad wtf?
If you go to any concert where the band has been around for almost 40 years, I guarantee you that at least half the audience are going to old farts reliving their youth and many of them will have their kids in tow.
And as the kids look up at on overweight 55 year olde bald guitar player, red faced and huffing from the exertion of trying to keep up the tempo, they are thinking....dad wtf?
Here's a true Kerry King story. Many moons ago my son was friends with the neighbor boy. They were both about 15 at the time. Anyway, the neighbor boy was watching a school baseball game and listening to Slayer on his headphones when a bald, bearded, heavily tattooed guy taps him on the shoulder and asks him who he's listening to. My son's friend turns around and says Slayer, oblivious to the fact he was talking to Kerry King. Kerry says, "Oh, I'm the guitar player for that band."
Oddly enough, a buddy of mine also roommated with Paul Bastoph for a time.
If you go to any concert where the band has been around for almost 40 years, I guarantee you that at least half the audience are going to old farts reliving their youth and many of them will have their kids in tow.
And as the kids look up at on overweight 55 year olde bald guitar player, red faced and huffing from the exertion of trying to keep up the tempo, they are thinking....dad wtf?
Here's a true Kerry King story. Many moons ago my son was friends with the neighbor boy. They were both about 15 at the time. Anyway, the neighbor boy was watching a school baseball game and listening to Slayer on his headphones when a bald, bearded, heavily tattooed guy taps him on the shoulder and asks him who he's listening to. My son's friend turns around and says Slayer, oblivious to the fact he was talking to Kerry King. Kerry says, "Oh, I'm the guitar player for that band."
Oddly enough, a buddy of mine also roommated with Paul Bastoph for a time.
Lets face it though.....every bald biker looks like KK so, ya know...
If you go to any concert where the band has been around for almost 40 years, I guarantee you that at least half the audience are going to old farts reliving their youth and many of them will have their kids in tow.
And as the kids look up at on overweight 55 year olde bald guitar player, red faced and huffing from the exertion of trying to keep up the tempo, they are thinking....dad wtf?
Here's a true Kerry King story. Many moons ago my son was friends with the neighbor boy. They were both about 15 at the time. Anyway, the neighbor boy was watching a school baseball game and listening to Slayer on his headphones when a bald, bearded, heavily tattooed guy taps him on the shoulder and asks him who he's listening to. My son's friend turns around and says Slayer, oblivious to the fact he was talking to Kerry King. Kerry says, "Oh, I'm the guitar player for that band."
Oddly enough, a buddy of mine also roommated with Paul Bastoph for a time.
Lets face it though.....every bald biker looks like KK so, ya know...
Yeah, he was a casual Slayer fan and didn't have clue who it was. Had that been me, I would have totally geeked out.
If you go to any concert where the band has been around for almost 40 years, I guarantee you that at least half the audience are going to old farts reliving their youth and many of them will have their kids in tow.
And as the kids look up at on overweight 55 year olde bald guitar player, red faced and huffing from the exertion of trying to keep up the tempo, they are thinking....dad wtf?
Here's a true Kerry King story. Many moons ago my son was friends with the neighbor boy. They were both about 15 at the time. Anyway, the neighbor boy was watching a school baseball game and listening to Slayer on his headphones when a bald, bearded, heavily tattooed guy taps him on the shoulder and asks him who he's listening to. My son's friend turns around and says Slayer, oblivious to the fact he was talking to Kerry King. Kerry says, "Oh, I'm the guitar player for that band."
Oddly enough, a buddy of mine also roommated with Paul Bastoph for a time.
Lets face it though.....every bald biker looks like KK so, ya know...
Yeah, he was a casual Slayer fan and didn't have clue who it was. Had that been me, I would have totally geeked out.
Id have said, PLAY IN TUNE DAMMIT! And then got a selfie of him scowling.
Nice find Brian! Slayer was my very first concert. Here's Ghost on The Late Show. Good to see The Metal getting some mainstream respect.
Ghost doesn't really surprise me actually, since they are pretty network safe in all areas. To me they're more like current Metallica, a metal band for people who are not into metal so to speak.
Nice find Brian! Slayer was my very first concert. Here's Ghost on The Late Show. Good to see The Metal getting some mainstream respect.
Ghost doesn't really surprise me actually, since they are pretty network safe in all areas. To me they're more like current Metallica, a metal band for people who are not into metal so to speak.
I respect Ghost for their blatant use of "Satanic" imagery.
Nice find Brian! Slayer was my very first concert. Here's Ghost on The Late Show. Good to see The Metal getting some mainstream respect.
Ghost doesn't really surprise me actually, since they are pretty network safe in all areas. To me they're more like current Metallica, a metal band for people who are not into metal so to speak.
I respect Ghost for their blatant use of "Satanic" imagery.
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