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Thoughts on Tipping
Topic Started: Nov 13 2014, 06:56 PM (655 Views)
19nate79

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Nov 13 2014, 10:52 PM
19nate79
Nov 13 2014, 08:17 PM
Yeah except for that a waitress at a bar makes as much as some local bank branch manager.
No they don't.
well they're online claiming to make 120-200 a night in tips and around 4 an hour from the restaurant. using their low figures that makes 40000. that's about what the branch manager i used to date made.

oh and they won;t have student loans to pay
Edited by 19nate79, Nov 14 2014, 12:29 AM.
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I know of one waitress who is loved at her job by co-workers and customers. She works at a high-end bar. She makes close to $100,000 a year, that's her wages and tips combined.

I'm sure that's exceptional. Many staff are just getting by. But if you're super with people and you work at the right place, you can make a pretty good living.
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20%...!!!

Screw dat - 15% is all I'm dishing out.

Only way I go higher is if the waitress is top notch, stacked, and sucks the nuts off my olive branch right after dessert.
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Nov 14 2014, 12:27 AM
well they're online claiming to make 120-200 a night in tips
Only Friday and Saturday nights will yield $100+ in tips. Sunday-Thursday will be bust, and that's at highly profitable bars which is <10% of the industry.


It's pretty common for a place that gets them $150 in tips on a Friday, to earn them $30 in tips on a Thursday.

Now factor in that employers make them split tips with barbacks and servers, and either they get stiffed on the minimum hourly or subject to taxes, and how shifts aren't consistent, bar tending is horrible work.

Most of these people have to either put in 80 hour weeks switching between waitressing and bartending, or they do it part time. It's a low return gig.
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19nate79
Nov 14 2014, 12:27 AM
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Nov 13 2014, 10:52 PM
19nate79
Nov 13 2014, 08:17 PM
Yeah except for that a waitress at a bar makes as much as some local bank branch manager.
No they don't.
well they're online claiming to make 120-200 a night in tips and around 4 an hour from the restaurant. using their low figures that makes 40000. that's about what the branch manager i used to date made.

oh and they won;t have student loans to pay
Anecdotes don't disprove trends.

Likewise, college graduates, on average, will have higher lifetime earnings compared to noncollege graduate. Anecdotes won't disprove this either.

Regardless, I don't have anything against a waitress making a comfortable living waiting tables. And if she is incredible at what she does, I don't have anything against her making great tips. My issue, as Sofargone mentioned, is that tipping is an expectation. A nasty waitress or waiter is expecting a tip, regardless of their service. And worst all, they're paid based in the assumption that the customer will pay the majority of their salary, in addition to what they're actually paying for their meal.
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Wahoo08
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Nov 14 2014, 12:50 AM
I know of one waitress who is loved at her job by co-workers and customers. She works at a high-end bar. She makes close to $100,000 a year, that's her wages and tips combined.

I'm sure that's exceptional. Many staff are just getting by. But if you're super with people and you work at the right place, you can make a pretty good living.
Even if they were paid salary, or at least a reasonable hourly wage and tipping were discouraged, I'd image that, just like most professions, the best would rise to the top. A waiter or waitress at a high-end steak house or bar could certainly expect to make a significant amount more than a waiter or waitress waiting tables at a casual chain restaurant.
Edited by Wahoo08, Nov 14 2014, 01:45 AM.
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19nate79

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Nov 14 2014, 01:41 AM
19nate79
Nov 14 2014, 12:27 AM
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Nov 13 2014, 10:52 PM
19nate79
Nov 13 2014, 08:17 PM
Yeah except for that a waitress at a bar makes as much as some local bank branch manager.
No they don't.
well they're online claiming to make 120-200 a night in tips and around 4 an hour from the restaurant. using their low figures that makes 40000. that's about what the branch manager i used to date made.

oh and they won;t have student loans to pay
Anecdotes don't disprove trends.

Likewise, college graduates, on average, will have higher lifetime earnings compared to noncollege graduate. Anecdotes won't disprove this either.

Regardless, I don't have anything against a waitress making a comfortable living waiting tables. And if she is incredible at what she does, I don't have anything against her making great tips. My issue, as Sofargone mentioned, is that tipping is an expectation. A nasty waitress or waiter is expecting a tip, regardless of their service. And worst all, they're paid based in the assumption that the customer will pay the majority of their salary, in addition to what they're actually paying for their meal.
This is what they claim to make
Even 30000 a year is pretty good for no education and no student loans to pay.
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I generally tip around 15-20% on an average meal ($40 - $60) with average service. Cheaper meals I generally tip more. The waitress at my local diner likely works harder to serve my family of 4 breakfast that only costs me $20-$25 than the waitress at Red Lobster, so I tend to tip above 15-20%. Likewise on a large tab, I tend to be closer to the 10-15% range. If I drop $100+ for me and my wife at a steakhouse. I don't feel like $20+ is necessary for the service.

That's the norm for me, but I will adjust for both good and bad service.

As far as waitresses, some make some damn good bank. If you get good shifts at a chain restaurant, you make pretty good money. A former classmate would get around $300 in tips on Fri & Sat. Closer to $100 during the week. Of course it helps she was smokin' hot and very sociable.
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i guess except for the two bozos who in some instances left no tip, i guess everyone here all have a tremendous amount of class no matter the circumstance. :p
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I saw this thread title and immediately thought of this

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i'm grateful for skinny, as i was starting to feel like a cheapskate.
15% and round up.

the modern concept of tipping offends me.
it's bad for society.
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I don't see what's wrong with 20%.

20% is the base and I always leave it unless I'm at a fast food restaurant or something.

If I have to look for you to fill up my water 2 or 3 times - that's it. It drops, and fast. If you ask for a tip - you get nothing just because that's tacky imo. (Chinese restaurants)

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I go 18% pretty much all the time.
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A friend of mine does 17.6%
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Nov 15 2014, 06:24 PM
A friend of mine does 17.6%

Tell your friend Glenn to round up so he meet's cheeto's standard. He will understand.
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