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Ben Aflac is a moron
Topic Started: Oct 6 2014, 07:04 PM (2,447 Views)
best80smovierad
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time for me to leave the thread and let split fight with skellie
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Why you gotta unlike my "gay" comment, split? Homophobic? :p
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Oct 12 2014, 06:45 PM
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Oct 12 2014, 05:30 PM
I'm not saying it's the vast majority who are moderate/progressive. It may actually be a minority. But that's still hundreds of millions of Muslims.


Why aren't there more? Why aren't there people demonstrating in the streets? One factor could be fear and intimidation. ISIS is slaughtering people en masse and posting it to social media. Not too many people are willing to make themselves targets with these guys running roughshod.
Split, you are making Maher's case for him.

You're saying there's a good chance it's a minority? Well, then Islam as a whole has problem.

If I say there is an obesity epidemic in America you can't point to Lebron James and Rich Froning and say, "Nuh-uh! Look at these guys! They're Americans and they're crazy fit! No epidemic here!"

The facts are that adults age 20 years and over who are overweight, including obesity: 69.0%

That's the majority, and so therefore America has an obesity problem.

And your argument that people don't speak up because they don't want to get MURDERED? How does that help your argument that Islam (as an institution, not a theory) is not a violent, oppressive religion?
No, Islam as a whole doesn't necessarily have a problem.

Anyone who uses it for the purposes of violence, misogyny or hatred of gays has a problem.

I can't tell you how many practitioners of the faith that adds up to. I can tell you there are some to whom it does notapply. I would dare say they number in the hundreds of millions.

To use your analogy, you don't put Lebron James and Rich Froning (who I had to Google) on a diet just because a substantial number of Americans are part of an obesity epidemic.

That is what I've been arguing all along in terms of condemnation of Islam as a whole.

The offhanded remarks about how all Muslims should just be blown sky high would include many jgood-natured people.

As to people who don't speak up because they fear being murdered, it only takes a relatively small number of people with firepower to silence others. Many totalitarian regimes throughout history have ruled the majority with an iron fist.

The CIA estimates ISIS has between 20,000 and 30,000 soldiers. There are another 100,000 people suspected of supporting them in various ways.

The region their operating in encompasses tens of millions of people who are basically at their mercy. You might think they should all rally together, but it's obviously not that simple. When the Iraqi army crumbled early on, all hope on the ground was pretty much lost.

The reign of terror is in full force.
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Oct 12 2014, 06:56 PM
Why you gotta unlike my "gay" comment, split? Homophobic? :p
Funny you noticed that. I just thought better of it.

We're talking in this very thread about some Muslims who are intolerant of gays.

The use of "gay" in a derogatory sense isn't something I support.

John Cena has taught me to rise above. Sorry, bro.

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Oct 12 2014, 07:13 PM
Tallica
Oct 12 2014, 06:56 PM
Why you gotta unlike my "gay" comment, split? Homophobic? :p
Funny you noticed that. I just thought better of it.

We're talking in this very thread about some Muslims who are intolerant of gays.

The use of "gay" in a derogatory sense isn't something I support.

John Cena has taught me to rise above. Sorry, bro.

:p
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Oct 12 2014, 07:17 PM
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Oct 12 2014, 07:13 PM
Tallica
Oct 12 2014, 06:56 PM
Why you gotta unlike my "gay" comment, split? Homophobic? :p
Funny you noticed that. I just thought better of it.

We're talking in this very thread about some Muslims who are intolerant of gays.

The use of "gay" in a derogatory sense isn't something I support.

John Cena has taught me to rise above. Sorry, bro.

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Sheamus is showing you how to step away from the inflammatory use of such terms, Best80s.


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oh my fucking god

i typed out a nice long reply for you split and it fucking froze up and took me out of the thread.

not retyping it

cliffs:
19% of american muslims think suicide bombing is ok
19% x 1.6 billion muslims=300,000,000
population of the us=<320,000,000

that's a problem

that's just suicide bombing. that's not all the other shit that they believe
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Oct 12 2014, 08:58 PM
oh my fucking god

i typed out a nice long reply for you split and it fucking froze up and took me out of the thread.

not retyping it

cliffs:
19% of american muslims think suicide bombing is ok
19% x 1.6 billion muslims=300,000,000
population of the us=<320,000,000

that's a problem

that's just suicide bombing. that's not all the other shit that they believe
I'll ask you to cut and paste where I wrote that it's acceptable for anyone to endorse suicide bombing.

I did write that they have not been acting on it, despite ISIS making calls several weeks ago for all Muslims to rise up around the world.

Regardless, attempting to persuade that 19% to think differently is definitely an objective, preferably by other members of their own community.

Since we can agree that that minority of people is reprehensible, why don't you tell me what you would do about it? Imprison them all for their impure thoughts? Round them all up and deport them?
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I would treat them like any other hate group
Mock them openly in public forums until they're a fucking joke, by that I mean tv radio etc...

You keep bringing up isis
You realize that is one group?
Aq, taliban, hamas, Hezbollah, nickelback, etc... are all just as bad right?? Add those up and you get millions of active jihadists.

This religion has more crazies than any other right now by far. We should be talking about it. It is an issue. There has to be dialogue to get past the denial stage.

Consider this too
300,000,000 believe suicide bombing is ok
There are only 20,000,000 jews in the whole world. If every jew on the planet thought it was ok it would only be about 7% as many.

You said fuck those people, well get started fucking. You're going to be a while
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Oct 12 2014, 10:15 PM
I would treat them like any other hate group
Mock them openly in public forums until they're a fucking joke, by that I mean tv radio etc...

You keep bringing up isis
You realize that is one group?
Aq, taliban, hamas, Hezbollah, nickelback, etc... are all just as bad right?? Add those up and you get millions of active jihadists.

This religion has more crazies than any other right now by far. We should be talking about it. It is an issue. There has to be dialogue to get past the denial stage.

Consider this too
300,000,000 believe suicide bombing is ok
There are only 20,000,000 jews in the whole world. If every jew on the planet thought it was ok it would only be about 7% as many.

You said fuck those people, well get started fucking. You're going to be a while
People are talking about it and writing about it. Have been for a long time.

It takes a while to effect change. Decades at least.

Look at the pope and Catholics. How recently did it become acceptable for people to fornicate for purposes other than procreation?

How recently did the Catholic church open the door to gays?

How recently did the Catholic church acknowledge that thousands upon thousands of priests were violating little boys?

How recently did the Catholic church open the door to abortion and women as priests? Whoops, not there yet.

Not saying those issues equate to the extremists, just that nothing is going to turn on a dime.

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BTW, did you not read the posts in this thread?

http://s1.zetaboards.com/mmafnet/topic/5552503/1/?x=50

There was plenty of disdain expressed for the Jews there. So it's fuck the Muslims, fuck the Jews. Some Jews and Muslims say fuck the Christians.

It's a wonderful world we live in, isn't it? Only Buddhists deserve respect? Atheists maybe?

Treat everyone as an individual. If they spew hatred, set 'em straight.
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Oct 12 2014, 06:56 PM
Why you gotta unlike my "gay" comment, split? Homophobic? :p
You know what's fucking gay?

That you're tracking who is liking and unliking your comments.
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Oct 12 2014, 10:42 PM
BTW, did you not read the posts in this thread?

http://s1.zetaboards.com/mmafnet/topic/5552503/1/?x=50

There was plenty of disdain expressed for the Jews there. So it's fuck the Muslims, fuck the Jews. Some Jews and Muslims say fuck the Christians.

It's a wonderful world we live in, isn't it? Only Buddhists deserve respect? Atheists maybe?

Treat everyone as an individual. If they spew hatred, set 'em straight.
Fuck the Christians too.

Oh, and I get Ben Aflac all the time
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Oct 12 2014, 07:13 PM
Tallica
Oct 12 2014, 06:56 PM
Why you gotta unlike my "gay" comment, split? Homophobic? :p
Funny you noticed that. I just thought better of it.

We're talking in this very thread about some Muslims who are intolerant of gays.

The use of "gay" in a derogatory sense isn't something I support.

John Cena has taught me to rise above. Sorry, bro.

:p
In all seriousness, I'd argue that "Gay" and "Fag" (maybe less so for "fag" but more so "faggot") has turned into something that doesn't even mean "homosexual" anymore.

There's still plenty of people who use it as a homosexual slur - but the word, in the context of an insult, means "lame."

It no longer means "homosexual". South Park went over this in detail.

Just like the word "gay" used to mean "happy" and stopped meaning that, it has turned into something completely different.
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Oct 12 2014, 10:46 PM
South Park went over this in detail.
I missed that episode. All societal trends and values should be derived from South Park.

:)
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