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| split decision | Nov 2 2014, 01:27 AM Post #241 |
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And you're aware of the Crusades, right? I never said the concept of jihad was conceived of during war with Israelis, or even implied it. Just said the conflict fuels much of the sentiment. |
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| 19nate79 | Nov 2 2014, 01:39 AM Post #242 |
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it makes it worse no doubt |
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| 19nate79 | Nov 2 2014, 01:43 AM Post #243 |
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isn't happening any more in a signifcant portion of the faith bad shit still happens in the name of christ but not very much and almost zero in the first world |
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| split decision | Nov 2 2014, 01:54 AM Post #244 |
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![]() Wow. An acknowledgement of an influence outside of religion alone!!! See, this is how middle ground works. Some people admit there is a problem in the way Islam is practised in some places (be it particular countries or specific mosques/specific imams). While other people admit that religion is not the sole reason for the brutality in those places, where residents are subject to social, economic and political factors that can and do exacerbate people's readiness to think and/or act violently. |
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| 19nate79 | Nov 2 2014, 02:00 AM Post #245 |
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fact remains a jewish state will never be accepted by "islam", but we can do taht in another thread |
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| split decision | Nov 2 2014, 02:23 AM Post #246 |
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Not interested in having that debate, here or there. You are probably right about that, and it's a shame it's highly unlikely to be resolved in our lifetimes. |
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| 19nate79 | Nov 2 2014, 03:00 AM Post #247 |
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it's kind of ironic that the best thing for "palestinians" as a whole would probably be for israel to absorb them and not give them a state |
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| 19nate79 | Nov 2 2014, 03:37 AM Post #248 |
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| danl08 | Nov 2 2014, 08:57 AM Post #249 |
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I can speak for the Jews here: We would issue a very VERY strong condemnation (and then you would die of a mysterious heart attack in 4-6 months). |
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| danl08 | Nov 2 2014, 08:58 AM Post #250 |
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Of course it wont be. They've had decades to try to make peace and their action every time is war and terror. |
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| 19nate79 | Nov 2 2014, 09:36 AM Post #251 |
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Peaceful war and terror you bigot and stop lumping all muslims together |
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| Jeff Mondo | Nov 4 2014, 12:12 AM Post #252 |
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The underlined We target Christians, as well, because we're intelligent enough not to let bias guide us. But right wingers sure as hell don't target them, and it's preposterous given that most of them turn a blind eye to what their infallible Christianity does. If you want an emphatic example of how the West fixates on Islam atrocities over Christian, go downtown and ask people if they've heard of ISIS or the London bombings. Most will. Then ask them what they know about Uganda or the carnage going on in the CAR. Many of them will probably answer with just this - "What's Uganda? Is that a new rap group?" The bold - I give a shit because it's a problem when hateful beliefs spread so broadly across a faith. Especially because that's what leads to things like the Lord's Resistance Army and the Rwanda genocide. As for the Pope, he represents only a portion of Christians [Catholics] worldwide, and he certainly doesn't have all of them behind him. To this moment, the Cardinals are doing damage control about his progressive doctrine. |
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| Jeff Mondo | Nov 4 2014, 12:22 AM Post #253 |
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The only difference is that they don't always overtly advertise what influences their awful acts; it doesn't change what is inspiring them, or in some cases, fails to keep them from committing the acts despite being based around dogma of love and mercy. Edited by Jeff Mondo, Nov 4 2014, 12:24 AM.
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| 19nate79 | Nov 4 2014, 02:57 PM Post #254 |
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No the difference is I can't predict who will kill their wives because they slept with somebody else. I can absolutely predict which groups will commit atrocities based on their beliefs. That is the core here. Which beliefs lead to certain actions. Again, if you can't say because God to me to when you commit a crime then you have to own up to your action. In today's world muslims are quoting islam when they blow themselves up at a market or a hospital. Sorry. There is no counter argument to that. If this was 1200 ad we'd have a good basis for defining christians. Instead right now they just vehemently disagree. Are they bombing gay weddings? No. Are they beheading abortion Dr's? No. Do they lobby against those causes? Yes. Are they getting their way anywhere or are they forced to accept society's rules? They can at least be worked with. The group that has a much higher % with violent beliefs and is acting on them today is muslims. |
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| Cbear | Nov 5 2014, 12:48 AM Post #255 |
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The peaceful Muslims in Pakistan have murdered and burned a Christian couple accusing them of blasphemy. But....this may have actually been an economic hit job using religion as the killer. The couple were Christian and worked in a Muslim factory. They were in dispute with the company over wages owed and company management were the ones who leveled the accusation of blasphemy and that's all it took for the Muslim rabble to go into a murderous frenzy. This was a hit and the Muslims stupidly fell for it become murderers due to a companies profits. http://blogs.wsj.com/indiarealtime/2014/11/05/pakistan-mob-burned-christian-couple-to-death-for-blasphemy/ A Muslim mob killed a Christian couple accused of burning pages of the Quran in eastern Pakistan on Tuesday and then incinerated the bodies in a brick kiln, police officials and labor activists said, in the latest attack on the country’s religious minorities. Police officials said the mob beat the couple to death, and then threw the bodies into the kiln. Shama Bibi and her husband Shahbaz Masih were bonded laborers at a brick factory in the village of Kot Radha Kishan in the Punjab province, 28 miles south of the city of Lahore. They had a dispute with Yousaf Gujjar, the owner of the factory, over money they owed him, according to police and labor activists. Bonded laborers at brick factories in Pakistan are among the poorest people in the country, according to rights groups. They often start working with an employer by taking an initial advance payment on their salary. Owners then deduct a portion of their daily wage until the debt is repaid. Details of the slain Christian couple’s debt arrangements weren’t immediately available. “Some people, including the accountant and caretaker at the brick factory, had accused [the couple] of desecrating the Quran,” Kasur District Police Chief Jawad Qamar said. “By the time our first responders arrived at the scene, they had been killed” |
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