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War in Israel and Palestine
Topic Started: Jul 17 2014, 09:36 AM (2,023 Views)
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Skeletonrock
Jul 17 2014, 08:56 PM
The hurt between these two groups can never be healed, right? I mean, they will never agree and always hate each other, am I wrong? What can be done here? Anything?
Don't really think anything can be done. Even if the Palestinians were officially given a land in the region there would still be problems. It goes too deep.
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dhk1980
Jul 17 2014, 09:44 PM
btw, if the holocaust never happened, would they have gotten their land after WWII?
Nope and it really wasn't their land at the point. The Palestinians were living there. The world looked the other way while Hitler slaughtered the Jews. To apologize, they went to Palestine and carved out Israel. It's a classic case of two wrongs don't make a right.
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Jul 17 2014, 09:40 PM
19nate79
Jul 17 2014, 09:00 PM
Any country at war does. I'll sit by and wait for your list of one's that haven't
Israel seem to kill a very disproportionate amount of civilians compared to how many Hamas they kill.
Not so. We do have twitter and smartphones now though, so we hear about every single one as they happen.
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Jul 17 2014, 09:54 PM
Not so. We do have twitter and smartphones now though, so we hear about every single one as they happen.
Weren't the reports from the last week that they killed about 200 many of whom were civilians? Don't know if the numbers have changed since though.
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Jul 17 2014, 09:47 PM
dhk1980
Jul 17 2014, 09:44 PM
btw, if the holocaust never happened, would they have gotten their land after WWII?
Nope and it really wasn't their land at the point. The Palestinians were living there. The world looked the other way while Hitler slaughtered the Jews. To apologize, they went to Palestine and carved out Israel. It's a classic case of two wrongs don't make a right.
so why are so many jews angry against god for the holocaust? LOL
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spasgur
Jul 17 2014, 09:56 PM
19nate79
Jul 17 2014, 09:54 PM
Not so. We do have twitter and smartphones now though, so we hear about every single one as they happen.
Weren't the reports from the last week that they killed about 200 many of whom were civilians? Don't know if the numbers have changed since though.
That's not impossible. Hard to say. Remember that these assholes literally fire the missiles from inside schools.
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Man, it's threads like this where the bigotry and small-mindedness really show through.

Both sides have faults and there's been no resolution to their ongoing disputes for decades, a grim situation indeed with bleak prospects for any lasting ceasefire.

As for the Jews and the disgust expressed here now and again, you just have to shake your head. If you know anything about history and the persecution they have had to overcome, which is still the case in many countries today, they are (generally speaking) astoundingly successful. Why is that? They're just lucky? It was handed to them? No, obviously many of them are hard-working and educated people. Try duplicating that for yourself rather than taking potshots and condemning them.
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Jul 17 2014, 10:13 PM
Man, it's threads like this where the bigotry and small-mindedness really show through.

Both sides have faults and there's been no resolution to their ongoing disputes for decades, a grim situation indeed with bleak prospects for any lasting ceasefire.

As for the Jews and the disgust expressed here now and again, you just have to shake your head. If you know anything about history and the persecution they have had to overcome, which is still the case in many countries today, they are (generally speaking) astoundingly successful. Why is that? They're just lucky? It was handed to them? No, obviously many of them are hard-working and educated people. Try duplicating that for yourself rather than taking potshots and condemning them.
it's only spasgur and dumbo splittie. calm down now. =)
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i blame Japan. if they didn't bomb pearl harbor America would've never entered the war and Hitler would've finished the cleansing.
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dhk1980
Jul 17 2014, 10:16 PM
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Jul 17 2014, 10:13 PM
Man, it's threads like this where the bigotry and small-mindedness really show through.

Both sides have faults and there's been no resolution to their ongoing disputes for decades, a grim situation indeed with bleak prospects for any lasting ceasefire.

As for the Jews and the disgust expressed here now and again, you just have to shake your head. If you know anything about history and the persecution they have had to overcome, which is still the case in many countries today, they are (generally speaking) astoundingly successful. Why is that? They're just lucky? It was handed to them? No, obviously many of them are hard-working and educated people. Try duplicating that for yourself rather than taking potshots and condemning them.
it's only spasgur and dumbo splittie. calm down now. =)
eat a dick you slob. if it wasn't for my grandfather you ass would be sucking cock in pyongyang.
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Jul 17 2014, 10:13 PM
Man, it's threads like this where the bigotry and small-mindedness really show through.

Both sides have faults and there's been no resolution to their ongoing disputes for decades, a grim situation indeed with bleak prospects for any lasting ceasefire.

As for the Jews and the disgust expressed here now and again, you just have to shake your head. If you know anything about history and the persecution they have had to overcome, which is still the case in many countries today, they are (generally speaking) astoundingly successful. Why is that? They're just lucky? It was handed to them? No, obviously many of them are hard-working and educated people. Try duplicating that for yourself rather than taking potshots and condemning them.
Geez, white knight much?

Dumbo is being dumbo and spasgur is just pointing out some ugly truth about the disproportionate amount of damage that Israel does. Why can't we talk about that?

Also what does being a resilient, successful people have to do with this current situation?
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Skeletonrock
Jul 17 2014, 10:57 PM
Geez, white knight much?

Dumbo is being dumbo and spasgur is just pointing out some ugly truth about the disproportionate amount of damage that Israel does. Why can't we talk about that?

Also what does being a resilient, successful people have to do with this current situation?
People can talk about whatever they want. Others can level criticism wherever they see fit (and I'm not immune to that).

As I said, both sides have made transgressions. But the anti-Semitic sentiment here extends beyond this thread. It's a handful of people, but you'd have to make an effort to turn a blind eye to it.

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Skeletonrock
Jul 17 2014, 10:57 PM
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Jul 17 2014, 10:13 PM
Man, it's threads like this where the bigotry and small-mindedness really show through.

Both sides have faults and there's been no resolution to their ongoing disputes for decades, a grim situation indeed with bleak prospects for any lasting ceasefire.

As for the Jews and the disgust expressed here now and again, you just have to shake your head. If you know anything about history and the persecution they have had to overcome, which is still the case in many countries today, they are (generally speaking) astoundingly successful. Why is that? They're just lucky? It was handed to them? No, obviously many of them are hard-working and educated people. Try duplicating that for yourself rather than taking potshots and condemning them.
Geez, white knight much?

Dumbo is being dumbo and spasgur is just pointing out some ugly truth about the disproportionate amount of damage that Israel does. Why can't we talk about that?

Also what does being a resilient, successful people have to do with this current situation?
Disproportionate is a dumb concept
Why the hell would you be proportionate? If somebody came up to you and spit in your face are you going to only spit back or punch their teeth in?

Israel eats missiles and they respond by going I'm and finding all these missiles. Would you prefer they just shot missiles back or have people already bitches bait them doing that? So now they go in on foot and physically find them. Much harder to do but also keeps them from hitting a school blindly firing. Which is it?

Fuck them both, but if I have to pick one (and it looks like we have to) I'm taking the ones that more closely reflector societal values. So I think we should so title out like we're doing right now.
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Both sides have played a part in this. However, as mentioned, two wrongs do not make a right. The Palestinians have been screwed over since WII so I do not blame them for their hatred. THe US will always kiss the ass of Israel no matter what wrongs transgressions they may do. If another country was doing the things to children that Israel is doing the US would be quick to condemn them and play big brother.
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wtf just happened?
Edited by 19nate79, Jul 18 2014, 12:33 AM.
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