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Adventures with Kosha & Ducky
Topic Started: Nov 25 2011, 01:23 AM (797 Views)
Crazy Bird Lady


Tish, first of all lol to the bird thing and secondly, u got to act like a pig so kosha understands, just a dominant pig that's all haha. Wouldn't hurt to set and watch the pig behavior to see how they interact, including, pigg cuddles and reprimands. Mimic the behavior and you will be the big boss hog!!!!

Puppy, is just being a parrotlet. They don't have the nickname of bird pit bulls for no reason. She doesn't know she's small, she has big birds balls. They all do. What she did to Ducky is nothing, they will attack humans. My sweet pea did some war scream and flew to my husbands neck and went for his jugular!!! It was hilarious. Even when reprimanded, they may back down at the time but will come again later. I think they have short memories lol. Unless severely traumatized, I think they forget. When Oscar was chomped by the dog, he didn't ever bat an eye when the dogs went near his cage. He didn't show any fear of my own dog. I think birds have their own agendas. When I'm on the phone, I get shit from sweet pea. Even now, while I type, I'm catching shit from Finny, he keeps chortling and nibbling my neck cux he wants scritches. He's gonna get them right now as he is sooooooo sweet... The only way I can guarantee pips safety 100% is to never let them cross paths. There will always be a risk otherwise. That's a risk u have to decide to take or not.

Eg. I won't ever let a hook bill around a finch or canary ever again. I will never let a parrotlet near any other bird, including their own. My tiels can be with anything, but not the parrotlets. Thats just the way it is. Hope this is helpful.
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Hi Maryann,

Well, if I have to pinch her ear and make it hurt, I guess I can do that ... but I sure am going to feel like I am some kind of cruel pig hurter. With my luck, she'll bite me, LOL. Actually, what she's going to do his try and head swipe me. I'm agile enough to stay out of her way. She's so cute but she sure is a headstrong little piggy. Gotta tell you, I sure am glad she came to live with me. I sure missed having a pig and it was a hard decision after losing my beloved Tulip. Tulip sure spoiled me with her gentle nature. Kosha is normal and it's just going to take some work to tone her down.

Yeah, I hear ya regarding Pippy. She is as crazy as Kosha. I could not believe my eyes that she would not back down -- she CHARGED Ducky and when Ducky turned around and snapped at her, she did NOT back away. Ducky is such a good boy -- he did not do anything but snap even though he could have done something since Pippy was not backing away. After the 3rd time when I had gotten over my shock and gotten up, I was scared for Pippy. I shooed her away. Remember she is the one that lost a toe due to Ducky but it was Pippy who started it.

I will say that Pippy does not ever go after the budgies. She's part of that flock so I am not going to remove her after all these years living with them. That would be so mean. There's just something about Ducky that Pippy likes. She tries to immitate him. I've even seen her trying to get into Peanut's cage since Ducky hangs out with Peanut all day long.
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I remember that he bit her toe. That's why I said it is ur choice. After my budgie killed my hen canary, that was lesson enough for me. I would never mix them again, I don't care how mean or lonely they get. That's my choice. I guess unless u witness and feel that loss, u are willing to give grace and that's fine. I wish u all the luck, and so far so good. I'm just saying, I have been there and done that. In all honesty tho, I did not know and nobody ever educated me to that fact. I had to learn the hard way. It made me mad that bird breeder and friends knew and never cared to share that info with me. You are making an informed choice, which is better than what I had. I hope u don't ever have to go thru what I did.

The lady with Oscar, has that greening macaw, that chomped and cracked the upper beak of her sun conure and almost severed it. That stupid conure kept harassing the macaw, and finally after that, she does not let them together anymore. Ducky may be the one exceptional bird, u never know.
I just don't have the nerve to find out here lol.
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Hi Maryann,

You're right. Please don't misunderstand, I am aware that Ducky can be unpredictable -- look at what he did to Kosha. What I do know is that he doesn't and has never gone after the birds. I don't know why he doesn't have any interest in doing that. He actually likes them. He didn't try and get Pippy yesterday -- it was a half hearted attempt to stop Pippy from coming after him and then he turned back around to head to his cage. For the longest time, Pippy wasn't going after Ducky so I relaxed a bit. After what happened yesterday, I am back on guard again. Right now, Ducky is in his cage since the little birds are out and about and I'm not there to supervise. I'll put them in their cage in a bit and let Ducky back out. I've seen Ducky go into their cage and eat their food but doesn't bother with them. I think I posted quite a while back that I walked into the room and Ducky was in their cage just hanging out. I removed him as it freaked me out but they were not concerned. It was weird and freaky to see a big macaw hanging out with 2 little budgies and a parottlet in that small cage. It freaked me out to see Ducky in Peanut's cage as well.

That all being said, Ducky could do some major damage or kill them if he wanted to. Because he has that capacity, I cannot allow Pippy such access to Ducky. Ducky is not going to go after Pippy but the other way around. It's never happened since they've been here. And since that is the case, if Ducky really wanted to defend himself, it will be Pippy that loses, not Ducky. It is my responsibility to keep Pippy away from Ducky.

What I do is house Pippy with the budgies. They get along fine and don't fight. What I meant by I don't want to separate them is that I don't want to separate Pippy from the budgies. There's never been an issue with them. Plus the cage is big enough -- it's a flight cage so there's plenty of room for anyone to get away from any bird that is being annoying. Ducky is housed in the same room, not the same cage.
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Tish, don't get me wrong, I think its great that they get along, and I know that the dumb ballsy parrotlets get themselves onto trouble by being bullies and picking fights with the bigger birds. That's exactly what happened to the sun conure, HE kept harassing the big macaw and finally got it good. I think Ducky is amazing and has the patience of a saint lol. It's pippy that needs controlling for her own good!

My dfsw budgie loved my male parrotlet and they fussed eachother up, but when we got more than one, it became a danger issue for the budgies and then they got separated. What eve works is good for me, u got ur flock workin great. That's nice. Accidents will happen.
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Hi Maryann,

I completely agree with you 100%. Ducky cannot be housed or left alone with Pippy. Ducky is not the problem, it's Pippy. Ever since I have had the other birds, Ducky has not gone after them. He's never bothered with Fred, Ethel, Powder and Pippy. Pippy has flown into his cage and perched and Ducky has always been fine with that. The other birds go into his cage to eat and Ducky has always been fine with that. I have never ever seen him make any motions to attack. What he does do is when Pippy attacks him, he will defend himself. The other birds don't do that to him so he leaves them alone. I have to be very careful with Pippy and Ducky.

I do house Pippy with the other little birds. In the 3-4 years that they've been living together, there has never been a problem with Pippy & the others. They all get into spats -- I hear them screaming at each other but never have I seen Pippy attack them. I have never seen anyone injured. Pippy is so much part of their flock that she calls out to them, they answer her. I just don't have the heart to remove her and house her in a cage all by herself after living with them all these years.

A couple of months ago, I was at the pet store and was looking at the budgies. I was not planning on purchasing any, I just love to look at them. Anyway, I saw two budgies get into a fight. One budgie grabbed another budgie's foot and was chomping down. The budgie being bit was screaming trying to get away. I finally tapped on the glass and the biting budgie let go of the other budgie's foot who then flew away. What I'm trying to say is that stuff will happen and even happens between budgies. Since Pippy has gotten along with the budgies all these years, I just have no reason to separate them. Sure, something may happen but then like I saw in the pet store, it could between two of the budgies. If Pippy got into a fight with one of the budgies, she's going to win. If she gets into a fight with Ducky, she's going to lose.

If I were to worry about any of the budgies, it would be Powder. She's pretty headstrong and doesn't seem to show much fear. She goes to the Peckerhead's cage and helps herself to their food. But then again, she seems smart enough to not try to go after Ducky. While she doesn't seem to be scared of him, like Fred & Ethel are not scared of him, she doesn't cozy up to him.

I trust Ducky not to go after Pippy or the others. However, I do NOT trust Pippy to not antagonize Ducky. Ducky is not going to just sit there while Pippy attacks. And that's the problem. I just wish Pippy knew her size and place -- leave Ducky alone and Ducky will not even bother with her.

Thanks Maryann! I totally trust your judgment. You've helped me with my birds immensely.
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I agree, I don't suggest u remove pippy from her budgie pals, they r fine. I agree with u, pip is the instigator and cannot be trusted around Ducky lol, she will lose. Of all my parrotlets, only my one fallow male could I trust, he is a sweetheart. I don't trust the rest. Too nasty.
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Wow....what a story. I'm speechless and don't have much to say about this. Could it be that since Pippy is getting older now he may be getting more aggessive? Just wondering. Ducky could bite his head right off.
Ha it was a parrotlet that bit me at the bird show. It was just a quick nip but it hurt for days. Well all I know
is I just love Ducky so much. How you have gone all this time without much incidence just shows what a good Ducky he is. On the other hand he did give Kosha a surprise bite so I guess you will just never know what can
set him off and at who. Would love to know that birdie mind. Very interesting.

Hey Tish...would love to see some current pics of Pippy, Ducky. Did you try that battery charger yet?
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Pippy is sure fiesty, parrottlets are known for that. Poor Ducky it must frustrate him
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Vi, I'll get some photos of everyone. I still have some photos on the camera that I haven't downloaded yet. Me too ... I would love to know what goes on in that birdy mind of his. He's actually very sweet towards the birds and towards Peanut. He doesn't like Kosha and I don't think that's going to change.

Cathy, Yep, Pippy sure is one fiesty bird -- and a dummy going after a large macaw. You know, I don't think Ducky is frustrated, he loves living amongst them. It seems like he's the happiest he's ever been. He has his birds around him though he doesn't interact much with them and he has his best friend, a guinea pig. He is at her cage ALL DAY LONG ... seriously, he's there all day long. He only leaves to go to his cage to eat and go to the bathroom and then goes back to Peanut's cage. It's really weird but he's really a happy little guy now that he has Peanut. And Peanut seems to really like Ducky.
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