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Topic Started: November 8, 2009, 1:21 pm (1,252 Views)
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Alright, new topic.. because all of you are uninformed about the terrors of extreme Nationalism.
New topic is:
Animal Experimentation,
Is it morally acceptable to experiment on non-human animals to develop products and medicines that benefit human beings?
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No because it may work on an animal but it may not work on a human. What we really need is volunteers who are willing to give the product a try for themselves.
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December 10, 2009, 11:10 am
No because it may work on an animal but it may not work on a human. What we really need is volunteers who are willing to give the product a try for themselves.
Not necessarily, the animals used are so similar to humans in reaction, if something happens to the animal, the same is true for a human, and vice-versa. Also, you can't just test things on people, if something goes wrong with it they could die or be seriously harmed -- probably leading to a lawsuit.
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December 10, 2009, 12:41 pm
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December 10, 2009, 11:10 am
No because it may work on an animal but it may not work on a human. What we really need is volunteers who are willing to give the product a try for themselves.
Not necessarily, the animals used are so similar to humans in reaction, if something happens to the animal, the same is true for a human, and vice-versa. Also, you can't just test things on people, if something goes wrong with it they could die or be seriously harmed -- probably leading to a lawsuit.
Bingo, i would only really allow testing on animals that have a large population rate as opposed to testing on animals that are much more in danger of becoming extinct or generally in lower numbers, unless of course they are some kind of pest and doing more damage alive than good.
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I did say willing volunteers, they can give feedback to the product. If it is some kind of lotion they can say if the product was rough when they rubbed it on their skin or it burnt while it was on the skin. Animals can't give feedback on their point of view to the product.
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December 10, 2009, 11:35 pm
I did say willing volunteers, they can give feedback to the product. If it is some kind of lotion they can say if the product was rough when they rubbed it on their skin or it burnt while it was on the skin. Animals can't give feedback on their point of view to the product.
Animals are for when the product is in experimental stages and that's what we're debating, not when they're past that and know it's not harmful but want feedback. Oh, and it really doesn't matter if they're willing, lawsuits will still fly.
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Scientists use animals because they are scared to try it for themselves. They get paid and know the risks and dangers of what they are testing. They should get paid more if they had the guts to try it on themselves instead of animals who have no choice or say.
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December 11, 2009, 4:52 pm
Scientists use animals because they are scared to try it for themselves. They get paid and know the risks and dangers of what they are testing. They should get paid more if they had the guts to try it on themselves instead of animals who have no choice or say.
You're an idiot. Scientists aren't going to test shit on themselves unless they are positive it won't harm them. Scientists are there for a reason, to research and learn and develop, not to be fucking idiots and pour some random shit they just made on themselves. It's not about "guts" or being "scared" IT'S CALLED A FUCKING BRAIN, USE IT! Oh, and fuck the animals, they usually use rats, and there's plenty of them.
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But it is so cruel.
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December 11, 2009, 11:03 pm
But it is so cruel.
How is it cruel??? We're possibly saving the lives of humans at the expense of some rats... WHO GIVES A FUCK ABOUT THE RATS?
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