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Topic Started: November 8, 2009, 1:21 pm (1,260 Views)
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Legend
November 16, 2009, 11:29 pm
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November 16, 2009, 10:22 pm
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November 16, 2009, 8:42 pm
The current question I have is something about in Genesis, yes it's a scenario.

In the Garden of Eden it is PERFECT right? In the beginning God says to Adam not to eat from the tree of knowledge otherwise he would 'die.' Adam wouldn't have known what 'die' meant would he, because he has never seen or experienced it? Then the Serpent talks to Eve and she acts like she knows what 'die' means but how would they know what 'die' means when they have never experienced it? Even little kids don't understand death when their pet dies.
You could have someone explain it to you, like God. Death isn't that hard of a concept to comprehend. I'm sure Adam and Eve knew what death was. You're taking the stories to literally.
Death doesn't occur until AFTER they sin, if someone tells you that you will have side effects if you have drugs, you don't know what the side effects will be. If it is the very first time you heard that word you wouldn't know what they are talking about, you'd only see the good side of the drugs and not the bad side. Death has no grip until Adam and Eve sin, WE all know what death is and means but I'm not sure that they would know what it means do die.

I'm sure the minister wouldn't be able to explain it but we'll see. I'll ask a minister now...AHEM!

KamikazeHD, in Genesis it says that God will tell Adam that he will die if he eats off the Tree of Knowledge, how would he know what death means if it never existed at that time? How can you possible understand something that doesn't even exist and is full of benolii?
I suppose Quantum has no clue what Quantum Physics even is then...

Legend, you're taking the bible too literally, there has always been death, ever since there has been life. I'm positive Adam and Eve were aware of what death was, even if they weren't you could easily explain to them what it was; the same could be said for your example of the side effects of drugs.
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The bible doesn't make sense of that, I guess in it, they were just born with the knowledge.
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Damn, the bible is just a tool for making us trying to understand it because it doesn't give the FULL DAMN DETAILS. Anyway how would you go about proving that there is a God to those that don't believe that there is a God?
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November 17, 2009, 9:43 pm
Damn, the bible is just a tool for making us trying to understand it because it doesn't give the FULL DAMN DETAILS. Anyway how would you go about proving that there is a God to those that don't believe that there is a God?
You're missing the point, I don't have to prove God exists. It's about faith, I couldn't care less what others believe in, all I care about is my own beliefs and my own faith.
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There is a reason why you believe that God exists, there is a reason why you believe all this stuff. Why is that?
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November 17, 2009, 10:22 pm
There is a reason why you believe that God exists, there is a reason why you believe all this stuff. Why is that?
I just believe in God, it's part of what was taught to me and it makes sense.
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Same here, and whenever I do turn to the Lord things just seem to work out/fall into place. It happens every single time so coincidence is a very weak argument. Try like 12 full years of having a lot of hard work to do at School and then on the 20th November I pray to the Lord that School finishes and then the very next day, 21st November, all the year 12's which is me and some other randos finish School forever! I mean wow I just had to pray to the lord and I would have finished School forever!

Damn it was so simple yet to hard that it took 12 years to do that...
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November 17, 2009, 9:43 pm
Damn, the bible is just a tool for making us trying to understand it because it doesn't give the FULL DAMN DETAILS. Anyway how would you go about proving that there is a God to those that don't believe that there is a God?
You can't, because as far as I know, there's absolutely no proof to the existence of god.
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November 18, 2009, 1:52 pm
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November 17, 2009, 9:43 pm
Damn, the bible is just a tool for making us trying to understand it because it doesn't give the FULL DAMN DETAILS. Anyway how would you go about proving that there is a God to those that don't believe that there is a God?
You can't, because as far as I know, there's absolutely no proof to the existence of god.
Key things you need to learn: The Bible (Bible Study groups help with that) Faith (Believing what has happened without actually seeing it) Salvation (Hint: It comes from the Lord)
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November 18, 2009, 10:24 pm
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November 18, 2009, 1:52 pm
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November 17, 2009, 9:43 pm
Damn, the bible is just a tool for making us trying to understand it because it doesn't give the FULL DAMN DETAILS. Anyway how would you go about proving that there is a God to those that don't believe that there is a God?
You can't, because as far as I know, there's absolutely no proof to the existence of god.
Key things you need to learn: The Bible (Bible Study groups help with that) Faith (Believing what has happened without actually seeing it) Salvation (Hint: It comes from the Lord)
The Bible is mostly bullshit. You can't just acquire faith, you need to gain it over many years or from some kind of life changing event. Salvation? Why, you think you're going to Hell? >.>
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