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| Zeek | Feb 7 2009, 08:41 AM Post #46 |
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Just another average member
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You're going to wipe the server for what? The chance to advertise a newly wiped server in hopes that a bandwagon of "ppl2pass" rank racers who want to be first come on and add a flurry of new activity? I was on Kradia when it first opened, and while it got tons of initial activity, a lot of those speed levelers quickly burn out and go back to where they came from. I don't think how the server runs is the problem. If anything, I love the mechanics of this server more than on any other server I've seen. What I find missing is that we're missing that part of the community and economy where people make Zakum groups and Horntail groups and they do runs for not only the money, but the greater good. A lot of people who no longer enjoyed the grind as much would keep coming back onto Bera for the purpose of attending a planned run, and eventually get back into playing instead of flat out quitting the game. Perhaps before you even think about wiping, you could try getting Horntail working and seeing if players don't band together to take it down consistantly. And perhaps make Zakum drop more important things (I don't think many people do Zakum runs anymore since bosshunter headgear is tradeable) but put a timer so that people have to work together to take it down fast enough instead of spending an hour soloing it. Perhaps the difficulty of some bosses could be in the speed they are taken down. Edited by Zeek, Feb 7 2009, 08:45 AM.
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| Smiley | Feb 7 2009, 09:01 AM Post #47 |
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I'm going to hold off my vote until we get a -final- list of changes out there, Dylan. Your last post indicated some of it was iffy in the 1st place. x_x Edited by Smiley, Feb 7 2009, 09:02 AM.
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| Skeem | Feb 7 2009, 09:41 AM Post #48 |
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I just hope that whatever happens to the economy, money will still be valuable. For those of you who have played D2, it has a really imba system - Their currency is high runes. Runes are super rare (Most people won't even find one legit in their entire gaming life), Yet cause of duping, people ar either really wealthy or really poor with no way of getting good items. It would be really hard to gain wealth if chaos scrolls were the currency cause it's hard for nubs to get them, but eventually money adds up and will be useful. From the looks of it, money is still useful, but perhaps when everyone has like 4b, currency will become something non-monetary, which would really suck xd Also the problem is reaching end game too quickly. When you can get all of your final items in like 1 week, it doesn't really make the game fun. Working for items such as SCGs and Facestompers is what gives the game (re)play value. That's why 1000x rate servers suck, You get to level 200 in 1 day, have all your equips, 999 stats, then ask yourself "Now what?" It's almost pretty much at that stage already, it's just that you guys are making marginal improvements, which is kind of fun, but getting to that point should be part of the fun, not almost instantaneous imo xd (I've looted pink capes cause people have too many of them `-`) Edited by Skeem, Feb 7 2009, 10:12 AM.
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| codypwnsu2 | Feb 7 2009, 11:47 AM Post #49 |
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I'm kinda iffy about this. I want it, but I don't. :X |
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| Reiatz | Feb 7 2009, 12:09 PM Post #50 |
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All I can say is, that on a GM perspective this place is a mess. Everything is way too easy to get due to a mistake in AquaPQ and some people glitching it by that glitch someone mentioned earlier once we removed seduce. A lot of the speculations people are making are really wrong, I don't have the patience to counter everyone's speculations, all I can say is it won't be near as bad as what some people are saying. I think this needs to be cleared up: GMS-Like transportation: NO this does not mean you have to ride the ship all the time. You either select that you want to ride the ship for the Crimson Balrogs/Quest or you can just go their instantly. This also possibly means the removal of the Trade/FM button. Normal job advancements: You will actually have to do your job advancements, bar 4th job. That means 2nd job marble quest, and 3rd job clone/DC crystal quest. (It also will notice your name when you defeat your job advancers clone) Skillbooks: They will be implemented again, instead of just having max 4th job skills when you advance. This would allow people to make more money and have more goals, also creating different skillbuilds for everyone. Also gives us a reason to add El Nath PQ and more people wanting to do boss runs for their respective skillbooks. NXCash: We might have mini NX cash cards drop from monsters, like 500 nx , 1000nx , 5000nx depending on what type of mob you're training at. Lower, middle, high etc. This would be used in the cash shop and they would drop somewhat like the gachapon ticket rate. Hair NPCs: Well jasper brought up making it for donators only, I disagree with that. I'd rather there be one in each town for every player to use. Hair/face/eyes don't really do anything but make your character look different. I think it would be cool to customize each hair salon to just give out their exclusive hairs only so you can't just sit at one to get any kind of hairstyle. You would have to travel around to get them. Auto events: Cake boss, NX slimes spawning in a random town every hour. Sort of like FoJ. Fixing FoJ: Adding the prize to be a single coke liquid or Onyx apple. Coke Machine: Super revamp! New items that are actually useful, most useless junk will be taken out. Donor/VIP Lounge: Been mentioned in the past. Give the donator's/VIP's their own exclusive area just to hang out, not really any advantages. Maybe just a jukebox and some exclusive little quests. More PQ's: We're going to start accepting custom PQ's people can make as long as they are reasonable. Going to put at least one PQ in each town. Cleaning up Gachapon: I think if the rate gets lower, then it does definitely needs to be cleaned up. Honestly I think the gach is fine, I think some useless crap should be taken out and keep the drop rate the same. Stat reset NPC: Stat reset NPC will be removed. Like Dylan said earlier, this place has lost it's activity a lot lately, a lot of it is because of things becoming too easy. I mean having 2bill now isn't even considered rich anymore. Icecream bars, PACs, Facestompers, and SCG's are a joke now. People just drop them around like they are nothing. If you obtain an icecreambar from the Cakeboss, it isn't even worth anything anymore because it's only 4-6atk, while you can get a really good one at Super Pianus that's 7-10atk. A lot of good ideas we would like to implement to the server wont work without a wipe, that's why a lot of us want it to happen. For example the skillbook idea, most people already have 4th job with max skills. It wouldn't be fair to future players to just implement it in, along with regular job advancing etc. Along with changing the coke machine, gach, and PQ rewards. If we just do that it wont help much, the items are out in the economy now, it's unfair to future players as well. We always wanted our server to be similar to GMS, from what it has become it isn't at all. Rankings etc: The hall of fame level 200's wont be removed as well, the section they are in will be changed to 1st gen rankings. edit: I think most people should hold off their vote before they see what it's going to be like. We're thinking about setting up a test server with a certain amount of people allowed into it to help test the new "ExiaMS" and some of the features that we'll still implement into the current ExiaMS. I'll be posting threads with screenshots etc. for you to be able to see if we do go ahead with this. Edited by Reiatz, Feb 7 2009, 12:22 PM.
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| wietepiet | Feb 7 2009, 12:47 PM Post #51 |
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~Never Alone~
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I would quit if the stat reset npc gets deleted and the skillbooks inmplented. Why? because for example MW is only acquired through Horntail. And if you were to make a warrior with normal dex but later on get the funds to go low dex or even dexless then it would be just plain stupid to not have a reset npc. |
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| Reiatz | Feb 7 2009, 12:49 PM Post #52 |
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Wait you just said earlier you didn't want HP washing, if you want it removed then the stat reset NPC has to be gone too. Of course we'll make the Skillbooks accessible from other things than HT. Maybe add them to PQ's or monster drops. |
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Feb 7 2009, 12:49 PM Post #53 |
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Theres something called @resetstats |
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| iMissy | Feb 7 2009, 12:50 PM Post #54 |
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Man i know people going be bitching no matter what happens but i really want the wipe i like the examples of what can happen to the server makes it fair for everyone and now its a race to 200 again x]. Wipe server<3 |
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| wietepiet | Feb 7 2009, 12:52 PM Post #55 |
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~Never Alone~
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If it were only a wipe then sure! Go ahead with it. Problem is it would be completely different then what it used to be. And @Dylan I presumed that if the stat reset npc were to be deleted that the @resetstats command would be deleted as well. |
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| Gotejjeken | Feb 7 2009, 12:55 PM Post #56 |
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I know I've only been on the server for about 2 weeks now, however if my char was wiped I don't know if I'd play anymore. I'm only level 92 at the moment because I play rather casually, and I only have around 100m in meso, pretty poor by server standards. For a new player such as myself the gach and claw machine are pretty cool, I wouldn't touch those. The amount of crap in the gach balances out the amount of tickets we get, reducing crap and tickets would do nothing, they'd just make the game less fun to play. The main thing the server really lacks is an economy. I for one would like the CS NPC to stay in the FM, yet make the items actually cost something. The one thing I hated about FMS was the ability not to be able to find NX shoes, or a decent outfit for that matter. I like the fact you can get everything from the start, however if the clothes cost something more than 1 meso we'd be in business. Instead of a server wipe, how about taking away our CS items and making us re-buy them for a set price say 5M each to get rid of some of the money we possess. In regards to specifics: 1. GMS transportation is a bad idea. I don't care if you have to ride the ship or not, I like the fact that I can go to the FM in just about any town and go anywhere I'd like. Making it harder to get around isn't going to please anyone really, as most PS's have the insta-warp feature. 2. Normal Job advancements are also probably not a great idea. I think making us hunt for skillbooks would be cool, except it wouldn't really boost the community because most people have seen and used the skills elsewhere, so making them harder to get here will drive people away. 3. Don't remove the stat NPC, just make it actually cost money to use. Say 5-10M at the start and then move it up or down depending on the meso-flow. Sure this will be 'unfair' to those of us that haven't played very long, but who really cares, removing it will be worse for the community than being unfair to newer players that don't know how things used to run. If at all possible I wouldn't want to see a server wipe. I somehow managed to scroll my first 10 atk WG here and found a Ele wand 6 in the claw machine. To lose those would be a pretty big blow to me, I know they aren't great by any standard but they do mean a lot to my character. There has to be some way to stimulate the economy without wiping the server. Even if we already have instant access to skills, if we can get some rarity going people will come. |
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| Jesus | Feb 7 2009, 01:12 PM Post #57 |
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Buddy Christ
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What the hell does this have to do with losing players? I've hosted countless zakum runs where people get their helms free of charge, and i organized these runs solely on that purpose. People quit the server, people join the server. It's a makeshift circle of life and you guys don't understand that. So what, people will quit and people will quit on any circumstance given that there is a change. But people also like to see change and people will join a server solely on that decision. I'm for the wipe and revamp because to me, the game is boring. I have every equip i need and my characters are practically maxed out. If that's not a good enough reason, i don't know what is. |
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| Neko | Feb 7 2009, 01:31 PM Post #58 |
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Insanity
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I'm up for the wipe and revamp. Right now the game is way too easy, making a new char everytime won't fix the problem because here, making a new char for those high level people mostly means "leeching a new char" , even without leeching is still easy. I got a paladin from 1 to 153 in 2 days and I didn't even try. Hp washing should not be taken out but at least limited, 15k base hp NLs /BMs or 30k hp warriors aren't fun at all and also kills the need for a party to train or boss with. A new challenge would make things more interesting and more motivations and reasons to play besides grinding. |
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| codypwnsu2 | Feb 7 2009, 01:54 PM Post #59 |
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I quit for a couple of weeks, I came back and it's way too easy. ><; I vote for a Revamp. It's what ExiaMS needs. |
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| Light | Feb 7 2009, 01:56 PM Post #60 |
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White Scroll is already hard enought to get, if you reduce the gach it would be impossible to geet!!!!! |
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