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| Celestial | Feb 7 2009, 05:17 AM Post #31 |
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Yay for walls of text that i can't be arsed to read. The only thing i don't like the sound of is the more gms like transportation, waiting on a boat for 15 minutes to get to your destination is not my idea of fun. |
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| Zeek | Feb 7 2009, 05:26 AM Post #32 |
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Just another average member
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I don't think it's just an issue of level 200's being bored, or else we'd just shoot for a higher level cap or some form of rebirth. The issue is that you can tweak up the place, but you can't tweak it down without significantly screwing over all newcomers, which kills the server by making it hard for new players to enter, while old players eventually and inevitably leave over time. For all these months the server's been up, things become bigger and better or not worth it at all. Whereas people would die for 12 attack gloves, some people now just drop them. Steely throwng stars are a joke, Chaos Scrolled attack stuff is everywhere, and equips that drop anywhere but Skelegons are nothing more than NPC fodder, with a few maple items as exceptions. And if you want to go down from all that and make an economy that isn't just 10 attack shoes/cape, Bosshunter overall, Stormcasters, and godly dragon weapons, you've got to wipe it and start over, or come back with things that are even bigger and better, which just repeats the cycle. I am curious to know exactly why though. Why do the GM's want most of us to return to overalls with only 25-30 stats, 11 attack gloves, and capes scrolled for STR, DEX, or LUK? |
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| Mandala | Feb 7 2009, 06:38 AM Post #33 |
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Forgive me if it doesn't make much sense, It's 5:30 AM and I haven't slept. Well as you said..the godly equips result in us having little to no economy.....the reason why there are so many godly gloves/capes/fs....is because the players of EMS complained about the superpianus being to hard...so Dylan nerfed it...thus causing a glitch in the system....instead of seducing the first person who entered....i would only just attack the first person who entered and as long as the person stayed out of sight, it didn't attack the following members of the party....making it 10x easier and 10x less time consuming. So I am assuming it is okay to go through life now saying "oh i screwed up, i can just wipe and start over keke^__^" yah...i dont think so....that's like "oh the condom broke WHOOPS...LOLWIPE" it's just wrong. I think this is our problem that we need to fix...and instead of wiping there are other alternatives to go about fixing our problems. But in the end like i said in my last post "It's up to the people & the people up top"... If we do decide on going with the revamp, I hope that all details will be hammered out and explained in full detail to allow the Exia community to voice their opinion and decide on what sounds good and what doesn't because whether the high ups like to admit it or not. We are what makes ExiaMs what it is and where it will go. Edited by Mandala, Feb 7 2009, 06:40 AM.
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| jttlegend | Feb 7 2009, 06:46 AM Post #34 |
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I train with you Ryan :x It'd be nice to see stormcasters and face stompers harder to get so they are actually worth something. Gacha tickets harder to get but a better chance of getting something good would be nice. |
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| wietepiet | Feb 7 2009, 07:04 AM Post #35 |
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~Never Alone~
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Just thought of this. The reason everyone here plays ExiaMS is because they liked how the game was. If you were to change it, it wouldn't really be ExiaMS anymore. Am I right? |
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| Myles | Feb 7 2009, 07:16 AM Post #36 |
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a few things- fms-like transportation? sounds alright to me keep the trade button warp give players who reached over a certain level a 'mark of beta'-like item i like the nx-through-voting/donating idea i want the quests associated with the 4th job skills, as in, you have to do the quests to get the skills. also, make monsters drop required skill books, but not gms-rates, otherwise bowmasters would train for hours at sharks again >_> overall, i like the current ems. it took me forever to get to my level (even though it is low leveled) because of school and stuff, and I wouldn't wanna do that grinding again, same with most people. |
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| Skye | Feb 7 2009, 07:26 AM Post #37 |
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I fully agree on the gachapon tickets thing, it's already hard enough having to spend 100 tickets to get ONE thing you want. Making them more rare? Might aswell give up. |
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| AngelicFizz | Feb 7 2009, 07:50 AM Post #38 |
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No, Dont revamp? In my opinion i'd say its pretty fine as it is. People choose to PS because its quick and easy. I Dont see the point in making it more "Challenging" And more like GMS. if you want GMS just play it? |
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| MiniLama | Feb 7 2009, 07:57 AM Post #39 |
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Yea, I agree to what Fizz just said. In my opinion, it's good as it is, and it's also the best Pserver at the moment. Not too slow, not too fast. Drop rates are good. So is gacha and the PQ's too. And the event, I like them. Keep it like this, would be better. ^^ |
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| Zeek | Feb 7 2009, 08:00 AM Post #40 |
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Just another average member
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You know, I think some of us, myself included have missed the forest for the trees, so to speak. What exactly is the problem here? Are we doing too much damage? Is it just that there's no variety in equips, meaning that every single non-magician class has the same four (gloves/cape/shoes/face) items of varying attack equipped? Or is it that too many scrolls seem useless now that everything gets scrolled for W.ATK now? I can't really say that any of this seems like much of a problem to me, but I suppose the GM's must think some part of it is if they're proposing such a reform. But, as stated before, there should be alternatives, and perhaps if we got some clarification on what the real issues are, we could see about exploring them. |
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| AngelicFizz | Feb 7 2009, 08:04 AM Post #41 |
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Totally Agree'd. Its not in my opinion WRONG to want to hit alot higher than you would on a normal server. I find it pretty fun to be able to K.O Stuff alot easier than you would normally. Isnt that why people play Private servers? To be able to do stuff you wouldnt be able to do OR Would have to pay ALOT to get. Its pretty awesome how it is now. Scrolling becomes a leasure more than a Dreaded threat if you fail. You can just make a new and be happy if it works. |
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Feb 7 2009, 08:15 AM Post #42 |
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You guys act like those ideas are 100% going to happen. They were only ideas and are due to change at any time. I'll state this again about the GMS like transportation, you would have a choice if you wanted to go on the boat or just be warped to your destination. If the gahacpon ticket rates were lowered, I will get rid of most of the useless crap in the current gachapons. Time to counter point everyone :xI actually don't like this idea, so this probably wouldn't happen. Most likely I would do something like this. Or:
Even if I lowered the drop rates, there's still those items that people had before the drop rate was lowered. It honestly wouldn't do anything imo. I like this idea ![]() Yes, this idea was also brought up by the staff. We will[ make many many many custom party quests for every level range. Anyways, don't know if anyone noticed. But ExiaMS is losing a lot of activity. I've already tried advertising more, nothing works. If this continues, ExiaMS will die out quickly. If we do wipe, I know it's a huge risk...it can either lose even more members or we can gain even more. |
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| Smiley | Feb 7 2009, 08:23 AM Post #43 |
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I agree with everyone who says no to the wipe, but I also do realise changes need to be made. At this point, despite being a lowrate server, yeah, we have it easy, especially with the large amount of events being held and the release of new PQs (as well as Kenny's PQ, which is still in the making) However, I don't think the problem will be fixed with a wipe. While you guys COULD do so and implement these new concepts, I'm actually going to agree with Zeek on this one in the sense that yes, we would kind of be turning back the clock on the positive aspects of actual gameplay (especially economy) that have taken place. I personally think more subtle changes could be made without a wipe. For example, if you significantly lower the droprate of Gach tix, please please, PLEASE, significantly lower the crap in there as well. Seriously, I think this would prevent people making gazillions off selling tickets they farmed from HHG1, as well as be less heartbroken when the time comes to use those precious tickets. The sleepywood gachapon has honestly scarred me for life after I used 100 tickets there and got 1 chaos scroll and 5 rows of useless equips, among other things. If I got 1 chaos in idk, 20, but the 20 were much harder to find, I wouldn't mind too much. In regards to crazy equips, you've already been to work at toning down the "OMGGAWDLINESS" of drops from Super Pianus. Hell, I wouldn't mind a further nerf as opposed to a full-on wipe (of course, this is coming from someone who is already equipped with such items :P) But I'm sure if you left it/further nerfed it, there would eventually be more of a demand for those items, since in a few weeks/months, there's sure to be new people and not everyone will have a 20atk glove if you can't get em anymore. While people are naturally greedy and may keep godly equips for themselves... well, that leads me to my 3rd point. This connects with my last 2, but just a quick fyi, I'd like it if I could actually use my meso. I have like, 4b, and the only thing I ever buy is smegas. Again, right now, everything, including scrolls, is pretty much everywhere. IF you cut down on events/gach/etc, people probably would end up buying/selling to eachother more often. Again, pardon my limited knowledge on this whole thing, as well as the fact that it's 8:00am right now and I went to sleep at 3:00am -.- I won't even talk about NX clothes/hair/face... I'm a person that pays attention to looks in real life, as well as maple, so - you probably know what I'm thinking when I see the phrase "NX will be harder to find." QUICK oops: Dylan, you posted while I was typing. -.- If I said anything that mirrors what you said, or mentions something you already addressed, I won't fix it because I'm tired. :3 Edited by Smiley, Feb 7 2009, 08:25 AM.
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| AngelicFizz | Feb 7 2009, 08:36 AM Post #44 |
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Go Smiley. I think you pretty much summed it all up right there.
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| Parabola | Feb 7 2009, 08:39 AM Post #45 |
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+1 Vote rewards - It's a good way to get more votes because, some people won't bother to vote unless there's a reward. While some don't vote period even though they play everyday. +1 Removal of Spinel - Not too much to say about this one. +1 Removal of NX from Nana - I played a server where NX dropped from monsters at a rare rate. After about an hour I only walked away with 10 to 16 NX items. This way we aren't limited to just trading scrolls or items like face stompers or a storm casters glove. ( We weren't really limited anyway. It's just that most other items had little to no value.) I don't like the idea of a wipe but, I am all for adding changes to the current server. Edited by Parabola, Feb 7 2009, 08:41 AM.
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I think you pretty much summed it all up right there.

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