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ExiaMS "Revamp"
Topic Started: Feb 7 2009, 12:45 AM (2,135 Views)
Undress
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+1 since I don't feel like writing a big post.
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ChocoMonster
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omg omg ,yes,yes,YES! That`s like a dream come true! :O I was about to quit last night,bcos of it too easy for me,since I got 2 lvl 200 & 159 :(. +1
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ChocoMonster
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It won`t lemme Edit last post,so

I think there should be like some, very few simple NX available. As for example, In FlowsionMS,we got NX from events & by hunting monsters for some time. Like green slime - green slime slippers, slime hat, slime top, slime earrings. Blue slimes - blue slime slippers, etc. Becouse i doubt everyone could win event..
NX for Donating = Nexon style |; Pay for Nx, that`s what I don`t wanna do in Private Server.
Edited by ChocoMonster, Feb 7 2009, 04:39 AM.
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Jenny
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Boo!
Sorry but -1 >.<
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LuckRoll

Booo -thumbs down-
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Skeem

The things that I would want changed are the fact that you can get like +20 attack on everything, makes it kind of imba and really makes some scrolls worthless
All NX items buyable from NPC kind of takes the fun out of playing the game, sometimes its fun hunting for items, but if you can juts buy it for 1 meso, you run out of things to do really fast xd
Gach was really fun in FMS, the tickets were really rare, so it was really risky to use it, and getting a crappy item (NX) was ultra lulzy xd Not sure if you want to use gach for rare items or lulz xd
Maybe there should be some more PQs that encompass a wider range, since most people are really high level, low leveled friends can't really do much with them xd
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allison

I'm happy with the way the server is now, but I've only been here like 3 days so it's probably more the people I'm playing with than the server it self.
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Faint
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i think its retarded. you're basically turning into all the other servers by making donaters differentiate from other players....

•This "donator map" will also have a hair, face and skin changing npc.
LOLLOLOOLLOLOLOLOLOL. isn't the reason why we play private servers is to get away from greedy nexon and being able to make your character look good without the expense of real life money? i would like to see some of the above ideas come through and maybe lowering the EXP rate but i think you should keep the NX the way it is. i mean it's only for looks, right?

here's my two cents:

1.a character whipe would be hurtful to some who achieved 200, but personally speaking i'd like it because its boosting the competition for everyone again.

2.i think if you do decide to follow through with a more GMS like server then it would be nice to get working player shops and/or a MTS with mesos, not NX. this will make scroll buying easier than just smega spamming all day.

3.i think the gachapon ticket rate is absolutely fine, but i believe you should pull out/add in some items and make them claw machine only. *cough* chaos scroll *cough*

4. as said above, i like the way the NX goes. i understand you'd like to see more donaters to help your expense but you can do so much more than take away NX from non donaters. just at the top of my head: increase their meso or gachapon ticket drop rate. it's nothing huge but it's a start.

5.get rid of HP washing. its so ridiculous seeing a sin with 20k hp and ruins bossing if you cant die.

6.i say keep global warper, but i honestly don't care so long as you lowered boat ride times.

7.make dragon weapons hard to get. i think that's pretty straight forward. also find a creative way to kill off facestompers and SCG to make them a hard to come by item.

that's just my view on a really fun server.
Edited by Faint, Feb 7 2009, 03:40 AM.
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butterfli
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Get rid of Spinel completely – Go back to GMS like Transportation


Why emulated a flawed system that actually might discourage people from playing the server?

People play pservers to escape the faultyness of gMS and they'll move to another server in a heartbeat if they come by a server that mimics so much of gMS' flawed traits. Nobody wants to rush to catch a ship or have to wait 15 minutes just to catch a ship ride. Even if it's not as extreme as getting killed on ship rides but just having to walk to a spinel in town can be annoying. Imagine Herb Town, Aquarium, or El Nath--places that have no Spinel. Nobody wants to waste time walking around with 100 or even 120 speed especially when practically every sserver has at least an easily accessed spinal warper.

Giving donators perks is fine. It's a nice way to get people to donate. But when regulars can't even change their own face and hairs I don't think they'll want to look at their characters to stick around long enough for a donation.

If you feel that things are too easy, excessive NX, iTCG things, FS, SCG, events, etc, then lower the drop rates. It'll encourage an economy and trading. Make people poor. Lower the meso rate. It'll make people interact with eachother through trading mesos and other goods. But don't ruin the fine aspects and features for a great pserver that may chase away new players and new potential even donators.
Edited by butterfli, Feb 7 2009, 03:39 AM.
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wietepiet
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I have to agree with various members their posts. I don't mind a wipe at all but as Faint said, giving donaters more then the average player just doesn't sound good to me. I would love to donate but I can't and I'm not allowed to either.

As Alise said, you could make the monsters drop nx that fits the monster (slime dropping slime shoes, slime hat etc).

I don't mind the global warper to be deleted but but but! Don't take away that the trade button warps you to the FM. Why? because if there is an event everyone would have to leave their training areas. And if someone died at for example skelesaurusses then he/she would have to walk that whole way back!

And if you are going to delete the hair/face/skin npc then add them in their respective shops and make them sell the facial cards for 1mil each or something in the matter.

Also, like faint mentioned, get rid of hp washing. It's ridiculous...

Personally I'm leaning towards revamp but I haven't voted yet because there are some minor things that I would like changed a little.

Edited by wietepiet, Feb 7 2009, 03:44 AM.
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Koyuki
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Shouldn't get rid of spinel and shouldn't make items way too difficult other wise i like it
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zigzo
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I like this server exactly how it is. If this "revamp" happened to make these changes, I'd definitely quit >_>
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Zeek
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I'm going to touch on what some other players said a bit.
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Maybe there should be some more PQs that encompass a wider range, since most people are really high level, low leveled friends can't really do much with them xd

Nobody really does KPQ though. But even if you removed the level cap on the Kerning PQ, it's not really worthwhile to the higher players. What is worthwhile to higher players likely isn't doable by lower ones. Unless we got a PQ that didn't have so much of a killing aspect, similar to how Guild Quest functions, but had worthwhile prizes, then perhaps the lower levels would have more of an ability to do things beneficial to both them and the higher leveled friend.
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LOLLOLOOLLOLOLOLOLOL. isn't the reason why we play private servers is to get away from greedy nexon and being able to make your character look good without the expense of real life money? i would like to see some of the above ideas come through and maybe lowering the EXP rate but i think you should keep the NX the way it is. i mean it's only for looks, right?

I play private servers to get away from Nexon's greed, yes, but in the unbalanced gameplay sense. My Bera Marksman used to be a Sniper that wasn't godly equipped, but at least enough to be above average, and could level just as well as anybody else that put forth the same effort. Nexon later raped my ability to keep up by introducing 2x EXP, 2x drop, Gachapon, iTCG, and other NX uses that gave paying players a major advantage. Now the person who played the same hours I did but spent $50 a week on the game had much better equips, leveled faster, and could actually afford the Sharp Eyes 20 Mastery Book that I could not. Okay, sure, the NX spenders also looked prettier, but that means nothing to me. Here, my ability to make wealth is just as potent as anyone else's, with the exceptions of not having the social connections to get into Super Pianus runs and sell excess items for billions, as well as people constantly winning Jump Quest events almost daily and making hundreds of millions more selling Claw Machine stuff.

Donators getting NX that isn't available to everyone else can actually become an advantage, because they could possibly sell it to the highest bidder. But if at least some decent stuff is available cheap to everyone, it'll lessen the blow and perhaps not be that significant.
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2.i think if you do decide to follow through with a more GMS like server then it would be nice to get working player shops and/or a MTS with mesos, not NX. this will make scroll buying easier than just smega spamming all day.

This would be true whether there's a wipe or not. And the more rare things get, the worse this problem will be. At least Chaos Scrolls can be obtained decently by grinding, looting Gachapon Tickets, and using them at Sleepywood. If suddenly nobody has scrolled pink capes or facestompers, there's going to be a lot of "B> Chaos Scrolls" Super Megaphones by the people who may currently be happy with "I'd need to hit a 2% chance to get a better cape" type equips right now.
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5.get rid of HP washing. its so ridiculous seeing a sin with 20k hp and ruins bossing if you cant die.

I think what you want is for the free stat reset guy and command to go, and the 1m single point AP resets to stay. Without HP washing, ranged attackers never hit 5K HP, and are forever reliant on Hyper Body in order to survive Right Pianus as well as Crimson Balrogs. Without the ability to reset all the base AP into INT, leech 2% and level, then reset back, people don't have the insane MP to wash to 20K HP. Yeah, technically you can still get 12K HP bowmen, but they'd literally need to purely leech to level 155, then spend 800 million mesos to reset the points out of INT, and another 600 million pulling any put into HP out of the MP and into STR and DEX with the others. But most people, who actually like USING their characters before 4th job, will settle on buying INT equips, leveling up with them on instead of the full AP reset to INT, and washing 2-3 points per level like GMS'ers do.
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7.make dragon weapons hard to get. i think that's pretty straight forward. also find a creative way to kill off facestompers and SCG to make them a hard to come by item.

I say keep Dragon weapons accessible and make Timeless hard to get. They're in the data, just not made accessible here.
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People play pservers to escape the faultyness of gMS and they'll move to another server in a heartbeat if they come by a server that mimics so much of gMS' flawed traits. Nobody wants to rush to catch a ship or have to wait 15 minutes just to catch a ship ride.

Ship rides suck. The original OdinMS system was a middle ground of using GMS methods to get around, but making all warps instantaneous, so the ships and Hak rides were not used. If anything, I'd recommend just going back to that. The only real walks then are people going to El Nath, because they either jump down Orbis Tower (much easier with the jump down command) or approach it from the bottom by walking left from Aquarium. Getting out is easier, since a return to town scroll makes you only go as far as getting out of the B-levels of Orbis Tower, then letting you scroll your way back to Aquarium.
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If you feel that things are too easy, excessive NX, iTCG things, FS, SCG, events, etc, then lower the drop rates. It'll encourage an economy and trading.

The problem is that people tend to only sell what they have extras of. When Facestompers were Claw Machine only, you couldn't buy them for 10 billion mesos because the people who had them either equipped them clean or Chaos Scrolled themselves, and not until they pulled a second pair and managed to scroll one better (and didn't turn one pair into 0 attack) did any go on the market. Elemental Wands were the exception there, because not everyone who pulled them was making a Mage/Priest, whereas almost everyone has a class that can benefit from common W.ATK items. And the further issue is that there wasn't enough of an economy in the rest of Maple Story for mesos to mean anything. Even if you could charge the moon selling an attack cape that's just a very mild increase over the cape you already had, what good is 2 billion mesos if nobody's willing to sell the things you want to buy? We almost have somewhat of a decent economy developed now, but if you wipe the server, you'll wipe what progress we've made in actually pricing items instead of everything being just "offer", and anything we can't hunt ourselves will simply just not be available to us. I'm not saying don't wipe, but if you do you'll need to really find a way to stimulate the economy before you make it so that the only people with Stormcasters and Facestompers are the people who win GM events over and over. I mean, unless you're also willing to restrict people to winning one coke liquid a week so that there's enough even distribution to get people to trade instead of winning everything they want.
Edited by Zeek, Feb 7 2009, 04:51 AM.
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mipe

+1

Also, here are some thoughts from me:


1. Making regulars unable to change hair colour etc. is a big no-no. Rather make it something like, donators have their own map with free hair changes etc, but regulars need to pay 500,000 mesos to change hair colour/style etc?

2. Fast travelling to few major places. 4 Victoria main cities, Mushroom shrine, CBD and Showa, Orbis, Ludibrium and Leafre would be all that is needed.

3. Maybe something like, you get 1 point for every time you vote, and when you get 10/100 points, you can get 1 gacha ticket. That way, if the gachas are rare drops as well, many people would vote just to get gacha tickets.

4. Remove all useless junk from Gacha. Seriously, if you spend whole day and get 3 gacha tickets, you wouldn't like if you would get a Knuckle attack 100%, Claw attack 100% and Glove for attack 60% scrolls.

5. Way to get NX without events. In here, there are players from America, players from Europe, and maybe from Asia. If all events are at example, good gaming time of Americans, that means that Europeans and Asians can't get to the events because the time is bad. Because that, I propose a system that I have seen on few Pservers already: Make normal monsters drop NX (rare). Killing slimes would give slime hats and shoes etc., and maybe make a ultra rare chance of pet dropping.

6. Moar PQs. At the moment, there is one for level 120-200, and one for levels 10-200. In the first PQ, only level 150+ will be accepted. For the bosshunter pq, unless you are soloing or doing the pq with friends, you will never see under level 70 people there.

7. Get pirate level 35 and 40 equips to Ludibrium/leafre/NLC/wherever there are merchants. It's clear that it's Nexon's mistake that you can buy every other classes weapons + armors until level 40, but pirates only to level 30.

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Mandala

I agree with everyone who has voted against a revamp of the server. There is nothing wrong with the way the server is and with a few tweaks and refinements it will be even better. Make things harder in the current version we have instead of revamping....All the people who have voted yes and voiced their opinions are "bored" well challenge yourself...just because you are bored of this current maple doesn't mean the rest of us are.


Let's look at our current Rankings....85% of the hall of fame players are mages..let's face it, it's easy to level a mage/bishop...and the 2 ranged...Alise & Chris.....Ranged players are able to do more damage per second on zak/bf/hh...then a warrior can thus allowing for easier training/leveling through much of their 1xx's. We have 1 warrior(Maiden) he's a hero...heroes out dps any of the other warrior classes....allowing for better bossing & soloing overall. As for us DKs, Pallys, Bucs, Cosairs, and Shadowers we are left with very little options...and very few bishops ever want to train at skeles in a party xd

Revamping/Wiping will drive away a lot of our base membership, which includes alot of people who make ExiaMs....ExiaMS. In the end it boils down to how the people vote, hopefully no decisions are made until their is a clear majority.


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