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New World Order: fact or fiction?
Topic Started: Apr 20 2008, 09:36 PM (466 Views)
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QUOTE=lightninboy
Is the New World Order fact or fiction?

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False...es_exposed.htm
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False..._monstrous.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Wor...racy_theory%29
http://www.newswatchmagazine.org/
http://www.pfo.org/illumint.htm
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/dai...114.guest.html

QUOTE=Erin
New World Order

I look at the situation like this. We live in a fallen world with sinful humans and fallen angels throughout. Corruption permeates society from the top to the bottom and through and through. Greed is the dominating driving factor for most people, and others are just trying to survive. The Biblical Christian Church (body of Christ made up of local churches) is the gemstone in this muck, and the salt of the Earth, and Jesus Christ God is sovereign and is working and saving people and leading His people. There is a lot of disinformation and misinformation out there, mixed up with the truth, and there are a lot of half truths. Fallen angels can appear and manifest and have limited but formidable knowledge and power (God of course is infinite and eternal and even His holy angels are stronger than the demons), and undoubtedly there are real life conspiracies that overlap and have to do with military-industrial and rich powerful families going on. Is there a circle of black robed men who rule the world? I doubt it works that way. But there is definitely an overall goal of Satan and his followers of various forms in the New Age Movement and its entourage that have the goal of a new world/one world order/government/religious system. Definitely.

And I do believe the up-front politicians like the US President and senators are just that, front people, so to speak, the real power who pulls the strings, at least in the human realm, are those who control the purse strings.

There is a lot of evidence to show various alternative energy devices have been suppressed, such as electromagnetic motors that can harness energy from the fabric of spacetime itself (of course this is not perpetual motion, creation of energy from nothing, the energy source is the "Firmament", the quantum vacuum, created and maintained by God as Colossians states, everything is held together by Jesus Christ). Ultimately, all of these leaders and people will have to stand before God, either as saved people who will lose rewards at the Bema Seat, or, as lost people who will go away into eternal punishment in Gehenna.

QUOTE=lightninboy
Are the people saying that the New World Order is real reputable, or are they considered kooks?

“Jack Van Impe, Charles Taylor, John Hagee, Peter and Paul Lalonde, Larry Burkett, Pat Robertson and the lunacy of Texe Marrs, perpetuate the Christian spin on the Illuminati.”

Okay, Jack Van Impe apparently says that the NWO is real.
http://www.truveo.com/NEW-WORLD-ORDE...y/id/366636173
I’m not exactly sure who Charles Taylor is.
Okay, John Hagee apparently says that the NWO is real.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b31_1187756968&c=1
Okay, Peter and Paul Lalonde apparently say that the NWO is real.
http://www.cephasministry.com/cultiv...dio_video.html
Okay, Larry Burkett apparently says that the NWO is real, although he admits that his book is fiction.
http://www.mgr.org/illuminati.html
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/c...eviews.start=1
Okay, Pat Robertson apparently says that the NWO is real.
http://www.masonicinfo.com/robertson.htm
Okay, Texe Marrs apparently says that the NWO is real.
http://www.prisonplanet.tv/articles/...erybabylon.htm

QUOTE=lightninboy
I believe there is a Bohemian Grove. I seem to recall reading about it in the newspaper.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles...90706Grove.htm
http://www.infowars.com/exclusive_new_bg.htm
http://www.propagandamatrix.com/arch...miangrove.html
http://www.geocities.com/northstarzone/BOGROVE.html
http://www.bilderberg.org/bohos.htm
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People who apparently say that the New World Order is real.

Tim La Haye
http://www.nndb.com/people/902/000058728/
Thomas Ice
http://books.google.com/books?id=GzD...nbBg#PPA193,M1
Hal Lindsey
http://www.auburn.edu/~allenkc/openhse/conspiracy.html
John Ankerberg
http://www.ankerberg.org/Articles/new-age/NA1002W4.htm
Charlie Sheen
http://www.nogw.com/illuminati.html
http://www.iamthewitness.com/DarylBr...ith_Sheen.html
Barry Goldwater
http://www.missionislam.com/nwo/illuminati.htm

QUOTE=Trent
I am a conspiracy theorist. I think my theory is right, though I do not see it in everything... I see it in to much. Luckily this world is not my home, I'm just a passin through..

QUOTE=lightninboy
David Icke was recommended to me by a friend who has read some of his books.

http://www.davidickebooks.co.uk/index.php

QUOTE=Erin
David Icke

Here is the thing about David Icke, Von. While some of what Icke says is right, for example, matter is made up of vibrating patterns of energy (Which you and I know God created and sustains), he also has a lot of new age views like "man is God" that sort of stuff.

He also thinks Reptile men, reptilians, are the monsters behind a lot of conspiracies.

QUOTE=lightninboy
Hmm. Wasn't Lucifer in the form of a snake? And isn't a snake a reptile? Thus, couldn't Luciferians be called Reptile Men?

David Icke has a book "...and the Truth Should Set You Free" and a book "Infinite Love is the Only Truth, Everything Else is Illusion". Those titles sound like they have some Christian influence.

QUOTE=Erin
Reptilians and Lucifer

Yes, he was. And again, Icke is very right about some things. But I have been through both those books, and there are new age elements, as well.

QUOTE=lightninboy
You have read David Icke books?

QUOTE=Erin
Yes, I have read some of Icke's books. He is right on about classified/suppressed energy and other technologies. In one of his books he mentions how people can make an alloy hard as or harder than diamond, I forget the process, its fascinating. He also shows that the material/energy universe was spoken into existence, and this lines up with the Scriptures about God speaking it into existence by the power of His Word, and how all matter is in a state of vibrational motion.

It’s just that he also has new age concepts in there, like the idea that God is all and all is God.

When I read books, Von, I like to try and discern, so, just because the book has some things I disagree with, I will try and seperate that from the good gems in there.

QUOTE=lightninboy
I consider Jack Van Impe to be somewhat of a kook. He sticks his neck out giving a possible date for the rapture and he claims that Christ was crucified in 32 A.D. instead of 33 A.D.

http://www.biblicist.org/bible/vanimpe.shtml
http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.js...81474977013275
http://members.aol.com/ClayWatts/endvanim.htm

http://eternalperspectives.com/2005/...ensationalist/
http://purgatorio1.com/index.php?s=dispensationalism
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